Both sides should back off a bit

bill718

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Hey folks, I know it's fun to play Monday morning quarterback with these Trump / Russia investigations, but the fact is, unless you have a really high level security clearance, you don't have all the facts. Maybe it would be a good idea to let these investigations wrap up, and get some more info. into the open before we decide if anyone is guilty of anything. :bye1:
 
Nope propaganda the heck out of it show no mercy.. Take it right to the left...




1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.




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Maybe people should wait until a car actually runs them over before getting out of the street. Besides its not a fact that they'll get run over until they actually get run over.

Its not fair to notice that everyone around Trump has ties to Russia. Just like its not fair to assume someone who hangs with gang members is in anyway associated with gangs..
 
Hey folks, I know it's fun to play Monday morning quarterback with these Trump / Russia investigations, but the fact is, unless you have a really high level security clearance, you don't have all the facts. Maybe it would be a good idea to let these investigations wrap up, and get some more info. into the open before we decide if anyone is guilty of anything. :bye1:
Ah, to dream.

Sadly, this country is now pedal-to-the-metal partisan, so the wingers are happy to make assumptions and predictions based on wild rumors, guesses, distortions and outright lies as naturally as they breathe. Then they'll fold in some personal insults and name-calling to taste. When proven wrong, they'll find a way to blame the other side for their being wrong.

Fun!
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nope. we must pre-judge then make sure all following activities prove us correct.

Heaven knows that's how it was with Hillary's email server and Benghazi! If with Republicans in charge and all that money blown, to this day "they got nothing!" They got what they ultimately wanted and that was to dirty her up, but she helped them a lot! Unfortunately we'll all pay for this hubris of taking on a fool as commander-in-chief! :bang3:
 
Since the 9-11 attack America has slid down a dark slope of too much security and secrecy.

The Dems won't back off the failed Clinton leadership and choose new and vibrant leaders.

The GOP, electing a President for the second time in five elections with a minority PV, sees the handwriting on the wall, yet will not open itself to genuine centrists and independents in the center.

Mac1958's 'pedal to the medal' analogy is 100% accurate.

Something is going to break in this struggle for permanent power.
 
Nope propaganda the heck out of it show no mercy.. Take it right to the left...




1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.




.

It's tempting to sink to the level of the fascist democrats, but if we do so, we betray everything we stand for.
 
Nope propaganda the heck out of it show no mercy.. Take it right to the left...




1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.




.

It's tempting to sink to the level of the fascist democrats, but if we do so, we betray everything we stand for.



It's all over for me alinksy rules is the only way to fight back against these bozos ...use it against them.



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Hey folks, I know it's fun to play Monday morning quarterback with these Trump / Russia investigations, but the fact is, unless you have a really high level security clearance, you don't have all the facts. Maybe it would be a good idea to let these investigations wrap up, and get some more info. into the open before we decide if anyone is guilty of anything. :bye1:



and give all the RW idiots a chance to miss an opportunity to bash Clinton/Obama and deflect from Trumps sorry ass?


NEVER !
 
Nope propaganda the heck out of it show no mercy.. Take it right to the left...




1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.




.

It's tempting to sink to the level of the fascist democrats, but if we do so, we betray everything we stand for.



It's all over for me alinksy rules is the only way to fight back against these bozos ...use it against them.



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That's nice, but button the bottom to buttons on that shirt first. Nobody wants to see your belly button lapped over your belt.
 
Nope propaganda the heck out of it show no mercy.. Take it right to the left...




1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.




.

It's tempting to sink to the level of the fascist democrats, but if we do so, we betray everything we stand for.



It's all over for me alinksy rules is the only way to fight back against these bozos ...use it against them.



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I think we lose our soul if we act like the Fascists. we recognize that the democrats are evil precisely because they follow men like Alinsky, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.
 
Since the 9-11 attack America has slid down a dark slope of too much security and secrecy.

The Dems won't back off the failed Clinton leadership and choose new and vibrant leaders.

The GOP, electing a President for the second time in five elections with a minority PV, sees the handwriting on the wall, yet will not open itself to genuine centrists and independents in the center.

Mac1958's 'pedal to the medal' analogy is 100% accurate.

Something is going to break in this struggle for permanent power.

I have a problem with all politicians, Dems and Rep. alike, but everyone knows "compromise" is a dirty word on the right! Libs would love to come to a consensus on different issues with conservatives, but with hard-arses in the South, they're not having it! The constituents they've globed together punish them for any signs of weakness or making "nice;" hence so few moderate Republicans left! Dems had it all in '08-10 and got us Nat'l healthcare, but at a cost! Republicans have it all and all they can tout is how many members they have from coast to coast! "Ok guys, you own it! Whatcha going to do with it?" Republicans are like the proverbial dog running after a car; "now what?" Trump has accomplished nothing even though he keeps touting all kinds of things with his Executive Orders! That's not legislating! :argue: :blahblah: :bang3:
 
Nope propaganda the heck out of it show no mercy.. Take it right to the left...




1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.




.

It's tempting to sink to the level of the fascist democrats, but if we do so, we betray everything we stand for.



It's all over for me alinksy rules is the only way to fight back against these bozos ...use it against them.



.


I think we lose our soul if we act like the Fascists. we recognize that the democrats are evil precisely because they follow men like Alinsky, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.



The right already stooped to that level anyways..no turning back now.



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Since the 9-11 attack America has slid down a dark slope of too much security and secrecy.

The Dems won't back off the failed Clinton leadership and choose new and vibrant leaders.

The GOP, electing a President for the second time in five elections with a minority PV, sees the handwriting on the wall, yet will not open itself to genuine centrists and independents in the center.

Mac1958's 'pedal to the medal' analogy is 100% accurate.

Something is going to break in this struggle for permanent power.

I have a problem with all politicians, Dems and Rep. alike, but everyone knows "compromise" is a dirty word on the right! Libs would love to come to a consensus on different issues with conservatives, but with hard-arses in the South, they're not having it! The constituents they've globed together punish them for any signs of weakness or making "nice;" hence so few moderate Republicans left! Dems had it all in '08-10 and got us Nat'l healthcare, but at a cost! Republicans have it all and all they can tout is how many members they have from coast to coast! "Ok guys, you own it! Whatcha going to do with it?" Republicans are like the proverbial dog running after a car; "now what?" Trump has accomplished nothing even though he keeps touting all kinds of things with his Executive Orders! That's not legislating! :argue: :blahblah: :bang3:


How old are you? You have that backwards ..the right always compromised with the left..

Reagan and tippy


Clinton and Newt

Ect..


It wasn't until the Messiah that he couldn't lead and compromise shit is when the war started..


Remember he had a pen and a phone

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The former FBI Director said under oath before Congress that the President is a "liar."

America nodded 'yes'.
 
Hey folks, I know it's fun to play Monday morning quarterback with these Trump / Russia investigations, but the fact is, unless you have a really high level security clearance, you don't have all the facts. Maybe it would be a good idea to let these investigations wrap up, and get some more info. into the open before we decide if anyone is guilty of anything. :bye1:

You mean let the same genius' who let Hillary walk also be trusted with investigating Trump?

Hilarious.
 

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