Boycott Israel

Yousef Munayyer - Sydney BDS conference 2017

You poor, angry islamics. It's not enough for you to limit your hate for each other to the Islamist Middle East. You need to export your hate.
Did anyone mention hate?

Your cut and paste dumps are drenched in hate.

I can understand that you derive any criticism of your politico-religious ideology as an affront, but to defend the fascist ideals of Islamic ideology and to ignore its history of promotion of hate and intolerance is really just... awful.
 

The three demands of BDS are, of themselves, evidence of hate (specifically anti-semitism).

Those are:

1. that Israel ends its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands

2. that Israel recognizes the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality;

3. and that Israel respects, protects and promotes the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in United Nations Resolution 194.



The first can be counted as hate because it demands "Arab lands" without acknowledging its counterpart which is Jewish lands.

The second already exists, and the mere idea that it does not represents hate.

The third creates a special, perpetual definition of "refugee" which is applied to the Arab Palestinians alone, rather than applying, conceptually, to all peoples. If we apply the definition equally to the Jewish people there are 15 million Jewish people with a right to return to their homeland.


The author claims:

To justify this condemnation of the B.D.S. movement requires accepting two extremely controversial claims: first, that the right to self-determination for any ethnic, religious or racial group entails the right to live in a state that confers special status on members of that group — that it is “their state” in the requisite sense; and second, that Palestine counts for these purposes as the rightful homeland of modern-day Jews, as opposed to the ancient Judeans.


Yes. Exactly. The condemnation is therefore justified. First, it is the NORM in our world for ethnic groups to have a national self-determination that does, in fact, confer special status to the cultural and religious traditions of that particular ethnic group. To deny that NORM ONLY when discussing the Jewish people is, by definition, anti-semitism. Second, disconnecting the Jewish people from their history in their homeland and denying that the people who have, over centuries -- MILLENNIA -- maintained their traditions, culture, language, religion, system of laws, celebrations, holidays and writings (both historical and religious) are those people and belong to that collective is both abhorrent and ridiculous. And if it is not hate to deny an entire peoples their HISTORY, I don't know what is.

The author, rather than demonstrating BDS' lack of hate, has actually demonstrated exactly why it IS hate.
 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
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Thank you You. Your previous post was looking like one of Rocco's song and dance posts.

You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group. The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally. BDS calls for equality. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything falls within legal norms. There is no hate in equality.

 
The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally.

Did you get that rule from the Hamas Ministry of Disinformation?

I guess we can expect the Jews in Gaza will see their situation to improve. Well, maybe not. Did Sinwar not get a link to this thread?

I guess we can expect the Copts in Egypt and the Christians in Pakistan to see their situations improve.

Well, maybe not.

It seems the Tinmore New World Order ™️ is just a laughable joke.
 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
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Thank you You. Your previous post was looking like one of Rocco's song and dance posts.

You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group. The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally. BDS calls for equality. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything falls within legal norms. There is no hate in equality.



“ Equality”? Is that why Abbas has stated no Israelis in “ Palestine?” Is that why they came out with an official statement that the Israelis had NO rights to the Western Wall? Keep posting; I need a good laugh . :auiqs.jpg:
 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
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Thank you You. Your previous post was looking like one of Rocco's song and dance posts.

You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group. The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally. BDS calls for equality. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything falls within legal norms. There is no hate in equality.



You took the Israel shills to school.sad they just dont get it that they are going to hell for particpating in this coverup taking money to troll at this site.
 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
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Thank you You. Your previous post was looking like one of Rocco's song and dance posts.

You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group. The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally. BDS calls for equality. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything falls within legal norms. There is no hate in equality.



“ Equality”? Is that why Abbas has stated no Israelis in “ Palestine?” Is that why they came out with an official statement that the Israelis had NO rights to the Western Wall? Keep posting; I need a good laugh . :auiqs.jpg:




"Abbas has stated no Israelis in Palestine..."



"NO rights..."



blech.



a.f.a.i.c: palestinian terrorists....shouldn't have any "rights" to anything on planet earf.....


 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
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Thank you You. Your previous post was looking like one of Rocco's song and dance posts.

You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group. The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally. BDS calls for equality. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything falls within legal norms. There is no hate in equality.



You took the Israel shills to school.sad they just dont get it that they are going to hell for particpating in this coverup taking money to troll at this site.


What the FUCK is this delusional poster talking about??? :auiqs.jpg::asshole::cuckoo:
 
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There is nothing "controversial" about a people's claim to self-determination based on a cultural ethnicity. Nor is there anything "controversial" about that territory being the homeland of the Jewish people. Both are, in fact, NORMS. To argue that either of these ideas is "controversial" is a demonstration of hate.
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Thank you You. Your previous post was looking like one of Rocco's song and dance posts.

You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group. The new rule is that a government treats all of its people equally. BDS calls for equality. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything falls within legal norms. There is no hate in equality.

Tell me where is the equality in terms like "Arab lands"? Would that be old school or new rule?

There is no equality in the hate shown by BDS. They reject and deny Jewish history and reject the idea of self-determination -- but only for the Jewish people.
 
You are so old school with the belief that one group must rule over another group.

I'm also going to add that this idea of "ruling over" is not a modern Jewish idea, nor a modern Christian idea, nor a modern Western idea. But that idea of "ruling over" is embedded in Islamic culture. Its projection. The intent of modern day normative national liberation movements is not for one group to rule over another. It is to preserve and protect the integrity of a collective, through their own self-determination, especially its culture, language, traditions and religion.
 
Most of the Arabs in Israel, that is, those who call themselves Palestinians, would be happy if thier leadership disappeared. Palestinians would live happily and peacefully in Israel without a two-state solution. Most Arab/Palestinian have zero desire to boycott Israel. Most Moslem Palestinians dont even practice the moslem religion as dictated. IT IS THE LEADERSHIP THAT MUST GO! Palestinians will always suffer under palestinian leadership. I know cause they told me!
 

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