BREAKING: 200+ “Militarized” Federal Police Surround Peaceful Rancher in Nevada

[Dot Com]

fauxrage by loversbears65 spoon fed to her by Murdoch. 'twas ever thus :yawn:

The rancher is a deadbeat & Repub-voters cheer him. Simple as that.

 

[Moonglow]

fauxrage by loversbears65 spoon fed to her by Murdoch. 'twas ever thus :yawn:

The rancher is a deadbeat & Repub-voters cheer him. Simple as that.

Next thing you know they will be posting another thread about their hero Pootin'

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[rightwinger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzIiMoVckcU

Freeloader

Part of the entitlement mentality

 

[MisterBeale]

And clean up all that cow shit as you leave

Look.

We have 200 armed men already there. Start shooting all the cattle that are trespassing on federal land. Distribute the free beef to all the widows and orphans

And before someone starts raving about private property and the cows belonging to Bundy, look at the facts.

Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees in 1993.

He was told by a federal judge in 1998 to stop using the public land for grazing his cattle.

Last July a federal judge gave him 45 days to remove his cattle from the public land.

If you watch the above interview of Bundy, you can see that it is quite that simple.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

 

[MisterBeale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzIiMoVckcU

Freeloader

Part of the entitlement mentality

 

[JakeStarkey]

Rancher is not peaceful, he does not pay his grazing fees and over grazes, and he is a loon.

You do know this whole thing is about the desert TORTISE so who really is the loon...and the cows were grazing there for a whole lot longer then this man cows have been there

the desert TORTISE the Desert Tortoise conservatory which has gone bankrupt and has to euthanize 900 of the turtles they have go figure so in the big picture it is not about the turtles

Rancher has not paid fees in 20 years, overgrazes the land, and is stealing from We the People.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Look.

We have 200 armed men already there. Start shooting all the cattle that are trespassing on federal land. Distribute the free beef to all the widows and orphans

And before someone starts raving about private property and the cows belonging to Bundy, look at the facts.

Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees in 1993.

He was told by a federal judge in 1998 to stop using the public land for grazing his cattle.

Last July a federal judge gave him 45 days to remove his cattle from the public land.

If you watch the above interview of Bundy, you can see that it is quite that simple.

Do you mean "NOT quite that simple" ?

I've read his position - he's full of crap. He's a welfare cowboy whose family has been feeding off the public trough for 127 years. And he has 14 children to boot. He can't afford to pay for his cattle's feed, but he keeps cranking out kids that the taxpayers are gonna have to support as well.

This is the definition of generational welfare.

 

[Dot Com]

my gawd. loversbears65 lifted her thread title directly off of her rw link. Plagiarism anyone?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

His cattle are free grazing where they have been since the 1800's
His family has used that land since before the federal government took it.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

Roaming off the ranch onto federal property.

 

[Katzndogz]

We have kangaroo courts in this country. The judge's decisions are often just as illegal as the agencies that bring the charges.

This is a travesty on the level of the one that resulted in the death of Donald Scott when the government wanted his land to be part of a Malibu view corridor.

A travesty? The grazing fees paid by the ranchers to use public lands are ridiculously low. And Bundy stopped paying those fees 21 years ago!! The feds waited 5 years (while he grazed his cattle for free) before the ordered him to stop. Then they waited another 5 years before they took action to remove his cattle.

He has been grazing 900 head of cattle, in a commercial operation, for free for 21 years. And he is the victim?? LMAO!!

He has been grazing his cattle, along with his family for 140 years. When the government wanted the land, they simply raised the fees until he couldn't pay it.
This tactic has been done before.

AZ rancher only paid $600 after feds seize prime land - CBS 5 - KPHO

Donald Scott was murdered by federal authorities when they wanted his land.
Donald Scott case - killing for land

This government has been going out of control for a long time.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

His cattle are free grazing where they have been since the 1800's
His family has used that land since before the federal government took it.

Which is another way of saying his family has been feeding off the public trough for 127 years.

= generational welfare

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

His cattle are free grazing where they have been since the 1800's
His family has used that land since before the federal government took it.

But is it his actual ranch, or are they roaming off of the ranch?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

His cattle are free grazing where they have been since the 1800's
His family has used that land since before the federal government took it.

Which is another way of saying his family has been feeding off the public trough for 127 years.

= generational welfare

The state government had 0 problem with what he is doing. The feds are stepping on state issues

 

[nodoginnafight]

Katz - how much were Bundy's fees? Please provide a link. And please provide a link to BUNDY'S case, not some other case. We're trying to talk about Cliven Bundy here.

 

[nodoginnafight]

His cattle are free grazing where they have been since the 1800's
His family has used that land since before the federal government took it.

Which is another way of saying his family has been feeding off the public trough for 127 years.

= generational welfare

The state government had 0 problem with what he is doing. The feds are stepping on state issues

FEDERAL LAND is a state issue??????????????????????????????????

REALLY?

That's too funny

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Haven't really followed this story, so I'd like to get a few points cleared up. Is the ranch itself on so-called federal property where they're trying to protect the tortoise, or is he simply letting his cattle roam off of the ranch into federal property?

His cattle are free grazing where they have been since the 1800's
His family has used that land since before the federal government took it.

But is it his actual ranch, or are they roaming off of the ranch?

Free grazing on public land is quite normal in some areas and has been for hundreds of years

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Which is another way of saying his family has been feeding off the public trough for 127 years.

= generational welfare

The state government had 0 problem with what he is doing. The feds are stepping on state issues

FEDERAL LAND is a state issue??????????????????????????????????

REALLY?

Why don't you look up how long his family has used the land as compared to when the feds took over the land.