Breaking: 9th Circuit Issues Ruling Not To Protect America's Sovereignty

[danielpalos]

Determining constitutionality of an EO includes determining if the president overstepped his authority under the constitution. This can be a difficult decision for the court. For example, it's the president's duty to protect the country but it also his duty to protect the constitutional rights of the individual and follow other constitutional requirements. If Trump would have offered clear evidence that these 7 countries were engaged in hostile acts against the nation and was a clear and present danger, the court would have ignored the right of visa holders to due process and ruled in his favor.

FDR issued and EO to intern tens of thousands of American citizens of Japanese descent. The Supreme Court in Korematsu v. United States ruled in a 6-3 decision in favor of the government. The court simply turned a blind eye to the constitution rights of the individual in favor of national security. The ruling was of course overturned many years latter.

. Foriengners don't have constitutional rights am I right ?

Where did you read/hear that? I suggest you do some research and start with the Bill of Rights.

. The Bill of Rights covers illegal immigrants ?

It limits Government, regardless of legal status. If they are using our Constitution to enact our laws, our Constitution applies.

that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or economics.

. If who is using our Constitution to enact our laws ? OK, so how does our Constitution apply to the illegals or refugee's if they are dangerous, but we have no way of knowing this until they act out ? Once they kill us on our own soil, then how do we address this type of thing if the Constitution has failed us ??

Just clueless and Causeless? Congress is Delegated the authority to write words on formerly blank pieces of paper, and have them enacted as laws in our republic.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or about economics.

 

[beagle9]

. Foriengners don't have constitutional rights am I right ?

Where did you read/hear that? I suggest you do some research and start with the Bill of Rights.

. The Bill of Rights covers illegal immigrants ?

It limits Government, regardless of legal status. If they are using our Constitution to enact our laws, our Constitution applies.

that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or economics.

. If who is using our Constitution to enact our laws ? OK, so how does our Constitution apply to the illegals or refugee's if they are dangerous, but we have no way of knowing this until they act out ? Once they kill us on our own soil, then how do we address this type of thing if the Constitution has failed us ??

Just clueless and Causeless? Congress is Delegated the authority to write words on formerly blank pieces of paper, and have them enacted as laws in our republic.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or about economics.

. I knew who does this, but wasn't sure what you were talking about when read your post. OK now answer the rest of my question about how the Constitution fails us while interpreted by the left in which causes us to be killed 1st, and then the questions are being pondered, asked or addressed later. It's time for us to be pro-active instead of re-active.

 

[danielpalos]

Where did you read/hear that? I suggest you do some research and start with the Bill of Rights.

. The Bill of Rights covers illegal immigrants ?

It limits Government, regardless of legal status. If they are using our Constitution to enact our laws, our Constitution applies.

that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or economics.

. If who is using our Constitution to enact our laws ? OK, so how does our Constitution apply to the illegals or refugee's if they are dangerous, but we have no way of knowing this until they act out ? Once they kill us on our own soil, then how do we address this type of thing if the Constitution has failed us ??

Just clueless and Causeless? Congress is Delegated the authority to write words on formerly blank pieces of paper, and have them enacted as laws in our republic.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or about economics.

. I knew who does this, but wasn't sure what you were talking about when read your post. OK now answer the rest of my question about how the Constitution fails us while interpreted by the left in which causes us to be killed 1st, and then the questions are being pondered, asked or addressed later. It's time for us to be pro-active instead of re-active.

What are you referring to? It wasn't the left that actually Invaded the Middle East with our exorbitantly expensive, superpower, and Not Solve the Problem.

 

[beagle9]

. The Bill of Rights covers illegal immigrants ?

It limits Government, regardless of legal status. If they are using our Constitution to enact our laws, our Constitution applies.

that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or economics.

. If who is using our Constitution to enact our laws ? OK, so how does our Constitution apply to the illegals or refugee's if they are dangerous, but we have no way of knowing this until they act out ? Once they kill us on our own soil, then how do we address this type of thing if the Constitution has failed us ??

Just clueless and Causeless? Congress is Delegated the authority to write words on formerly blank pieces of paper, and have them enacted as laws in our republic.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or about economics.

. I knew who does this, but wasn't sure what you were talking about when read your post. OK now answer the rest of my question about how the Constitution fails us while interpreted by the left in which causes us to be killed 1st, and then the questions are being pondered, asked or addressed later. It's time for us to be pro-active instead of re-active.

What are you referring to? It wasn't the left that actually Invaded the Middle East with our exorbitantly expensive, superpower, and Not Solve the Problem.

. No the left are just innocent little sheep aren't they ? Pathetic.

 

[danielpalos]

It limits Government, regardless of legal status. If they are using our Constitution to enact our laws, our Constitution applies.

that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or economics.

. If who is using our Constitution to enact our laws ? OK, so how does our Constitution apply to the illegals or refugee's if they are dangerous, but we have no way of knowing this until they act out ? Once they kill us on our own soil, then how do we address this type of thing if the Constitution has failed us ??

Just clueless and Causeless? Congress is Delegated the authority to write words on formerly blank pieces of paper, and have them enacted as laws in our republic.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, or about economics.

. I knew who does this, but wasn't sure what you were talking about when read your post. OK now answer the rest of my question about how the Constitution fails us while interpreted by the left in which causes us to be killed 1st, and then the questions are being pondered, asked or addressed later. It's time for us to be pro-active instead of re-active.

What are you referring to? It wasn't the left that actually Invaded the Middle East with our exorbitantly expensive, superpower, and Not Solve the Problem.

. No the left are just innocent little sheep aren't they ? Pathetic.

We could have simply paid the "Middle East" to upgrade their oil infrastructure, to lower our costs.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

 

[busybee01]

The fact is that the title of this thread is absolute BS. The courts made their decision on the basis of the constitution. The Congress makes immigration law not Trump. There is no process for revoking en masse green cards and visas that are issued by the US. Individually the government can revoke them but they have to have a reason and proof to back it up and prove it in a court of law.

Even on the 7 nation bank, there has to be proof. Proof is not because I say it is so. Trump has not provided any proof of his reasons for the executive order. Had it been in place during the Obama years, it would not have stopped one attack. For Trump to use fear to scare Americans into backing him is disgusting.

 

[beagle9]

The fact is that the title of this thread is absolute BS. The courts made their decision on the basis of the constitution. The Congress makes immigration law not Trump. There is no process for revoking en masse green cards and visas that are issued by the US. Individually the government can revoke them but they have to have a reason and proof to back it up and prove it in a court of law.

Even on the 7 nation bank, there has to be proof. Proof is not because I say it is so. Trump has not provided any proof of his reasons for the executive order. Had it been in place during the Obama years, it would not have stopped one attack. For Trump to use fear to scare Americans into backing him is disgusting.

. Trump campaigned on this, the American people elected him for this, and the leftist are denying the nation of it's due process when it comes to dealing with refugee's coming from areas of concerns.

 

[busybee01]

There has to be proof that they are a danger. People with legal documents to be here are entitled to due process according to the laws passed by Congress and signed lawfully by the President. He does not have the right to make law. He is providing more ammunition for terrorists to use against us. Cite one piece of evidence that refugees from these 7 countries pose a danger. The fact is that past attacks do not provide that.

Trump is not a king. He cannot make up laws as he sees fit. Does not matter what the people want.

 

[beagle9]

There has to be proof that they are a danger. People with legal documents to be here are entitled to due process according to the laws passed by Congress and signed lawfully by the President. He does not have the right to make law. He is providing more ammunition for terrorists to use against us. Cite one piece of evidence that refugees from these 7 countries pose a danger. The fact is that past attacks do not provide that.

Trump is not a king. He cannot make up laws as he sees fit. Does not matter what the people want.

. "He is providing more ammunition for terrorist to use against us" you say ?? Well you actually spoke the proof right there by acknowledging the fact that these dangers and terrorist exist. Now what ever they use to justify their next attacks matters not, only that we didn't just gladly allow the right ones to just come on in, and to get the chance to take any ammunition and freely use it against us.

 

[busybee01]

There is no evidence that it is happening. The real danger is to Americans and American targets over seas. Again Trump has provided no proof of his assertions other than this is what I say. Trump is acting unlawfully and it cannot be allowed to stand just as when Obama did the same thing.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The fact is that the title of this thread is absolute BS. The courts made their decision on the basis of the constitution. The Congress makes immigration law not Trump. There is no process for revoking en masse green cards and visas that are issued by the US. Individually the government can revoke them but they have to have a reason and proof to back it up and prove it in a court of law.

Even on the 7 nation bank, there has to be proof. Proof is not because I say it is so. Trump has not provided any proof of his reasons for the executive order. Had it been in place during the Obama years, it would not have stopped one attack. For Trump to use fear to scare Americans into backing him is disgusting.

. Trump campaigned on this, the American people elected him for this, and the leftist are denying the nation of it's due process when it comes to dealing with refugee's coming from areas of concerns.

Trump's campaign was all about hate, fear and "crooked Hillary"; and before that character assassination of his competitors for the nomination. He is running our nation on the same track, demagoguery - telling his base what they want to hear; running on "ain't it awful" and assassinating the character of journalists, actors, in fact, anyone who either refuses to kiss his ass or offers ideas and opinions which conflict with his own.

Donald J. Trump is unfit to be President of the United States. Unless and until the adults in the Republican Party speak out, and join the resistance, the Nightmare on Pennsylvania Ave will continue unabated.

 

[danielpalos]

The fact is that the title of this thread is absolute BS. The courts made their decision on the basis of the constitution. The Congress makes immigration law not Trump. There is no process for revoking en masse green cards and visas that are issued by the US. Individually the government can revoke them but they have to have a reason and proof to back it up and prove it in a court of law.

Even on the 7 nation bank, there has to be proof. Proof is not because I say it is so. Trump has not provided any proof of his reasons for the executive order. Had it been in place during the Obama years, it would not have stopped one attack. For Trump to use fear to scare Americans into backing him is disgusting.

does that mean, that merely because some people from some nations commit crime; we cannot hold all of the persons from those nations, responsible?

 

[danielpalos]

The fact is that the title of this thread is absolute BS. The courts made their decision on the basis of the constitution. The Congress makes immigration law not Trump. There is no process for revoking en masse green cards and visas that are issued by the US. Individually the government can revoke them but they have to have a reason and proof to back it up and prove it in a court of law.

Even on the 7 nation bank, there has to be proof. Proof is not because I say it is so. Trump has not provided any proof of his reasons for the executive order. Had it been in place during the Obama years, it would not have stopped one attack. For Trump to use fear to scare Americans into backing him is disgusting.

. Trump campaigned on this, the American people elected him for this, and the leftist are denying the nation of it's due process when it comes to dealing with refugee's coming from areas of concerns.

just a pander pledge to the ignorant right wing. that is all.

 

[danielpalos]

There has to be proof that they are a danger. People with legal documents to be here are entitled to due process according to the laws passed by Congress and signed lawfully by the President. He does not have the right to make law. He is providing more ammunition for terrorists to use against us. Cite one piece of evidence that refugees from these 7 countries pose a danger. The fact is that past attacks do not provide that.

Trump is not a king. He cannot make up laws as he sees fit. Does not matter what the people want.

. "He is providing more ammunition for terrorist to use against us" you say ?? Well you actually spoke the proof right there by acknowledging the fact that these dangers and terrorist exist. Now what ever they use to justify their next attacks matters not, only that we didn't just gladly allow the right ones to just come on in, and to get the chance to take any ammunition and freely use it against us.

There is no serious "terror danger" or we would have, serious, "terror danger tax rates". it is the Capital proof under any form of Capitalism.

When is the right wing going to, "get serious".

 

[beagle9]

The fact is that the title of this thread is absolute BS. The courts made their decision on the basis of the constitution. The Congress makes immigration law not Trump. There is no process for revoking en masse green cards and visas that are issued by the US. Individually the government can revoke them but they have to have a reason and proof to back it up and prove it in a court of law.

Even on the 7 nation bank, there has to be proof. Proof is not because I say it is so. Trump has not provided any proof of his reasons for the executive order. Had it been in place during the Obama years, it would not have stopped one attack. For Trump to use fear to scare Americans into backing him is disgusting.

. Trump campaigned on this, the American people elected him for this, and the leftist are denying the nation of it's due process when it comes to dealing with refugee's coming from areas of concerns.

Trump's campaign was all about hate, fear and "crooked Hillary"; and before that character assassination of his competitors for the nomination. He is running our nation on the same track, demagoguery - telling his base what they want to hear; running on "ain't it awful" and assassinating the character of journalists, actors, in fact, anyone who either refuses to kiss his ass or offers ideas and opinions which conflict with his own.

Donald J. Trump is unfit to be President of the United States. Unless and until the adults in the Republican Party speak out, and join the resistance, the Nightmare on Pennsylvania Ave will continue unabated.

. He is the answer for the stopping of the radical left in this country, and that is why he was elected. If he fails then his legacy will suffer greatly.

 

[danielpalos]

Beagle9

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

Do we have, real times of war or not?

 

[beagle9]

Beagle9

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

Do we have, real times of war or not?

Huh ?

 

[danielpalos]

Beagle9

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

Do we have, real times of war or not?

Huh ?

Just clueless and Causeless, and simply, "regurgitate" right wing propaganda; I got it.