Breaking confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart 18 ppl shot

[TemplarKormac]

Good to see he had shooting glasses and hearing protection...

The NRA approves.

Getting emotional, aren't we?

 

[bodecea]

I don't think his motives are absolutely confirmed yet but it does appear that he is a white supremacist Trump supporter.

El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’

A little off topic but cautionary for USMB mods. You have a lot of extremist hate on this site. We've all seen it. Members of this board have been threatened as well as certain demographic groups with violence. I ask that you please take it seriously and that those who are promoting violence online, stop.

Then where will all the left wingers go to post if they are kicked off here?

It's not a joke. They are now reporting on broadcast news that this guys hate filled racist manifesto is most likely real. What, 18 or so people lost their life for right wing ideology and you're going to pretend it's something else? What a coward you are. Go hide behind your long posts of pseudo biased stats, you won't feel threatened with reality there.

And the Bernie Sanders supporting democrat who attacked the Republican Baseball team? The Black lives matter sympathizer who murdered 6 police officers in the Dallas mass shooting?

Sanders and his supporters on this board never threatenend to kill. So, take it elsewhere.

Well....considering that the Bernie Bro tried to kill Republicans at baseball practice........I think he took it elsewhere....

You should keep bringing that up ever time there's ANOTHER right wing shooting.

 

[cwise76]

Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

Pure cancer is what you are

The truth scalds you like the cross burns a vampire...........

The only truth is a bunch of people just got unmercifully slaughtered by some fuck brandishing an assault rifle. Somethings gotta change.

 

[2aguy]

Then where will all the left wingers go to post if they are kicked off here?

It's not a joke. They are now reporting on broadcast news that this guys hate filled racist manifesto is most likely real. What, 18 or so people lost their life for right wing ideology and you're going to pretend it's something else? What a coward you are. Go hide behind your long posts of pseudo biased stats, you won't feel threatened with reality there.

And the Bernie Sanders supporting democrat who attacked the Republican Baseball team? The Black lives matter sympathizer who murdered 6 police officers in the Dallas mass shooting?

Sanders and his supporters on this board never threatenend to kill. So, take it elsewhere.

Well....considering that the Bernie Bro tried to kill Republicans at baseball practice........I think he took it elsewhere....

You should keep bringing that up ever time there's ANOTHER right wing shooting.

The left wing shootings out number them...so it's hard to fit them in.

 

[HappyJoy]

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Patrick Crusius

Another pissed off white guy who hasn’t gotten his share of the MAGA.

I don't think his motives are absolutely confirmed yet but it does appear that he is a white supremacist Trump supporter.

El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’

A little off topic but cautionary for USMB mods. You have a lot of extremist hate on this site. We've all seen it. Members of this board have been threatened as well as certain demographic groups with violence. I ask that you please take it seriously and that those who are promoting violence online, stop.

People are crazy since Maxine Waters, D. California, started this getting even with people by getting in their faces.

You're blaming Maxine Waters for this? If only you were capable of feeling shame.

 

[HappyJoy]

If violent video games are at play in this, then the nation must turn all eyes upon that area, and do something about that situation big time.

But ignore that whole Trump/white supremacy link? Sure, glad you're keeping it real.

Trump isn't a white supremacist no matter how many times you lie about it.....but obama is a racist, and his buddies, louis farakhan, jeremiah wright, and al sharpton are definitely racists...

No, he's just supported by them.

 

[bodecea]

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Patrick Crusius

Another pissed off white guy who hasn’t gotten his share of the MAGA.

I don't think his motives are absolutely confirmed yet but it does appear that he is a white supremacist Trump supporter.

El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’

A little off topic but cautionary for USMB mods. You have a lot of extremist hate on this site. We've all seen it. Members of this board have been threatened as well as certain demographic groups with violence. I ask that you please take it seriously and that those who are promoting violence online, stop.

Then where will all the left wingers go to post if they are kicked off here?

Planning on kicking out all non-RW conforming posters?

 

[2aguy]

Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

Pure cancer is what you are

The truth scalds you like the cross burns a vampire...........

The only truth is a bunch of people just got unmercifully slaughtered by some fuck brandishing an assault rifle. Somethings gotta change.

Yes.....

Stop 24/7 news coverage of mass shootings.

Stop glorifying these shooters.

That is how you stop them, along with getting rid of gun free zones.



Russian Polytechnic school shooter......killed 20, injured 70 with 5 shot pump action shotgun...

It isn't the tool, it is the time the killer is allowed to move freely before being confronted by someone with a gun.

 

[Defiant1]

If violent video games are at play in this, then the nation must turn all eyes upon that area, and do something about that situation big time.

But ignore that whole Trump/white supremacy link? Sure, glad you're keeping it real.

The only Trump/white supremacy link that exists is the one the dems and their partners fake news have made up.

 

[mudwhistle]

The last couple of weeks the Dems and their corrupt media has been trying to focus on emphasizing White Terrorism. Congress asked FBI Director Christopher Wray about the threat....and he answered in the affirmative that it was a major threat......

.....and right on cue they start happening.

Weird....Huh?

El Paso mall shooting: At least 19 people dead, 40 injured, suspect in custody, police say

One person said they saw 4 men shooting....but police only apprehended one suspect. Police: Multiple fatalities reported in El Paso Cielo Vista Mall shooting

It's strange....all of these white shooters never seem to be shown on trial.....

Obviously this 21 year old kid wanted to be caught.

Now.....why are so many kids doing this?????
Ask yourself this important question.

Now we know that Obama was trying to create a shooting spree along the Texas border with his Fast & Furious program. I think he's decided now is the time.

"Oh, that's crazy....no way the left would stage shootings around the country....no way."

 

[2aguy]

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Patrick Crusius

Another pissed off white guy who hasn’t gotten his share of the MAGA.

I don't think his motives are absolutely confirmed yet but it does appear that he is a white supremacist Trump supporter.

El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’

A little off topic but cautionary for USMB mods. You have a lot of extremist hate on this site. We've all seen it. Members of this board have been threatened as well as certain demographic groups with violence. I ask that you please take it seriously and that those who are promoting violence online, stop.

Then where will all the left wingers go to post if they are kicked off here?

Planning on kicking out all non-RW conforming posters?

Me? No....I love it when you asshats expose what you believe......I am a supporter of the Bill of Rights too....I actually believe in Free Speech.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Then where will all the left wingers go to post if they are kicked off here?

It's not a joke. They are now reporting on broadcast news that this guys hate filled racist manifesto is most likely real. What, 18 or so people lost their life for right wing ideology and you're going to pretend it's something else? What a coward you are. Go hide behind your long posts of pseudo biased stats, you won't feel threatened with reality there.

And the Bernie Sanders supporting democrat who attacked the Republican Baseball team? The Black lives matter sympathizer who murdered 6 police officers in the Dallas mass shooting?

Sanders and his supporters on this board never threatenend to kill. So, take it elsewhere.

Well....considering that the Bernie Bro tried to kill Republicans at baseball practice........I think he took it elsewhere....

You should keep bringing that up ever time there's ANOTHER right wing shooting.

Interestingly, you don't chime up when an illegal immigrant takes the life of an American.

But that's none of my business.

Until you can speak out against ALL unnecessary loss of life, instead of what death aligns with your political agenda, spare us your false outrage.

 

[22lcidw]

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Patrick Crusius

Another pissed off white guy who hasn’t gotten his share of the MAGA.

I don't think his motives are absolutely confirmed yet but it does appear that he is a white supremacist Trump supporter.

El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’

A little off topic but cautionary for USMB mods. You have a lot of extremist hate on this site. We've all seen it. Members of this board have been threatened as well as certain demographic groups with violence. I ask that you please take it seriously and that those who are promoting violence online, stop.

People are crazy since Maxine Waters, D. California, started this getting even with people by getting in their faces.

You're blaming Maxine Waters for this? If only you were capable of feeling shame.

She was shouting....Kill the mutha ph uka on aisle 5!!!

 

[cnm]

We have mass shootings regularly....

It's part of living in a free country. Love it or leave it.

Actually it appears to be part of dying in a free country. Worth every round taken, fer shure...

 

[2aguy]

If violent video games are at play in this, then the nation must turn all eyes upon that area, and do something about that situation big time.

But ignore that whole Trump/white supremacy link? Sure, glad you're keeping it real.

Trump isn't a white supremacist no matter how many times you lie about it.....but obama is a racist, and his buddies, louis farakhan, jeremiah wright, and al sharpton are definitely racists...

No, he's just supported by them.

And obama was not only supported by racists, he sat in an openly and proudly racist church for 20 years....Trump never did that.....obama was happy to take photos with lous farakhan....racist, and had al sharpton to the White House more than 5 times.....sharpton...actual anti-semite and racist.......

The entire democrat party was founded on racism you mope.

 

[boedicca]

Here goes the morons on a GUN GRAB KICK again!!!!!!!!

What do you feel should be done?

- Quit demonizing boys so that they are programmed in public schools to become maladjusted mental cases.
- Quit drugging up boys with ADD drugs for just being boys.
- Get rid of gun free zones.
- Nationwide conceal carry permits for legal gun owners who have had training.

So INCEL is everyone else's fault?

I said no such thing. But thanks for sharing.

So you agree that INCEL terrorists have no one to blame but themselves?

No, but think that if it gives you comfort.

We don't have a gun violence epidemic; we have a marginalization problem that is exploited by politicians:

- Mentally ill young men seek attention/revenge or other compensation for their mental problems via mass shootings; these are a tiny minority among total gun deaths.
- Gang (another marginalized category) violence deaths are mostly intra-race, and far out number the mass shootings.
- Our cynical LW political class diverts attention from the societal conditions which create marginalized people in order to crow about Gun Control and to advocate for destroying the 2nd Amendment. Their power is more important than a healthy society.

 

[Penelope]

No its not weird. I wonder why tramp isn't calling El Paso and crime spree and crime infested nest. White US citizen have been shooting everything up for a long time.

 

[HappyJoy]

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Patrick Crusius

Another pissed off white guy who hasn’t gotten his share of the MAGA.

I don't think his motives are absolutely confirmed yet but it does appear that he is a white supremacist Trump supporter.

El Paso Shooter Identified Online As Trump Supporter Who Didn’t Like ‘Race Mixing’

A little off topic but cautionary for USMB mods. You have a lot of extremist hate on this site. We've all seen it. Members of this board have been threatened as well as certain demographic groups with violence. I ask that you please take it seriously and that those who are promoting violence online, stop.

People are crazy since Maxine Waters, D. California, started this getting even with people by getting in their faces.

You're blaming Maxine Waters for this? If only you were capable of feeling shame.

She was shouting....Kill the mutha ph uka on aisle 5!!!

Go away.

 

[2aguy]

We have mass shootings regularly....

It's part of living in a free country. Love it or leave it.

Actually it appears to be part of dying in a free country. Worth every round taken, fer shure...

You mean except for the fact that as more Americans own and carry guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%..........our gun crime rate went down 75%......

So.......you are wrong....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

17 pages of the same shit everytime this happens. Everytime....