breaking: Gunman opens fire at CA college

[Katzndogz]

Germany has better people and a different culture than we do.

After the tsunami why did Japan have not one single incident of looting. In America looters will travel cross country to steal from those who lost everything.

Fury as looters from as far away as New York and Virginia travel to Oklahoma to pillage belongings from tornado-wrecked homes | Mail Online

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You want to know the real difference? Way more people die in gang and drug related killings.In fact it's not even close.
So if saving lives is the idea I would think you would tackle that issue.
Like an automatic 25 year sentence if you use a gun in the commission of a crime.
If you kill someone while committing a crime with a gun? Death sentence.

That would clean up the streets in short order.

If locking people up and executing them deterred crime, why do we have the highest crime rate in the industrialized world?

Why did we have 16000 murders last year and the Germany only had 600? They don't execute anyone and they don't lock all that many people up. Oh, yeah, and they treat drug addiction as a medical problem instead of a criminal one.

What they don't do is let every asshole who wants a gun have one

I pretty much just told you what the problem is,you chose to ignore it. When some asswipe robs a liquor store he's back on the streets in two years,thats the problem.
You lock the shitheads up until they're old and gray and would have to make their getaway with a walker.

 

[Katzndogz]

The shooter in Santa Monica was known to be deranged, he was allowed to be crazy, and the trigger was his parent's divorce.

SANTA MONICA KILLER WAS MAD AT PARENTS? DIVORCE, POLICE SAY | UTSanDiego.com

The guns he used were illegal and have been illegal in California for years. Gun control obviously does not work.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The shooter in Santa Monica was known to be deranged, he was allowed to be crazy, and the trigger was his parent's divorce.

SANTA MONICA KILLER WAS MAD AT PARENTS? DIVORCE, POLICE SAY | UTSanDiego.com

The guns he used were illegal and have been illegal in California for years. Gun control obviously does not work.

the magazines are also banned in that state

the black powder pistol was possibly legal though

 

[JoeB131]

You want to know the real difference? Way more people die in gang and drug related killings.In fact it's not even close.
So if saving lives is the idea I would think you would tackle that issue.
Like an automatic 25 year sentence if you use a gun in the commission of a crime.
If you kill someone while committing a crime with a gun? Death sentence.

That would clean up the streets in short order.

If locking people up and executing them deterred crime, why do we have the highest crime rate in the industrialized world?

Why did we have 16000 murders last year and the Germany only had 600? They don't execute anyone and they don't lock all that many people up. Oh, yeah, and they treat drug addiction as a medical problem instead of a criminal one.

What they don't do is let every asshole who wants a gun have one

I pretty much just told you what the problem is,you chose to ignore it. When some asswipe robs a liquor store he's back on the streets in two years,thats the problem.
You lock the shitheads up until they're old and gray and would have to make their getaway with a walker.

It's only a problem because we didn't spend those two years getting him ready to be a productive citizen when he got out.

In fact, what we usually do is lock up the guy who robbed a liquor store with a serial rapist, who sodomized him on a regular basis, he goes to the weight room to pump himself up, and he comes out a lot worse after two years than he was when he went in.

Again, or problem is not that we lock up too few people, it's that we lock up too many.

 

[Katzndogz]

You want to know the real difference? Way more people die in gang and drug related killings.In fact it's not even close.
So if saving lives is the idea I would think you would tackle that issue.
Like an automatic 25 year sentence if you use a gun in the commission of a crime.
If you kill someone while committing a crime with a gun? Death sentence.

That would clean up the streets in short order.

If locking people up and executing them deterred crime, why do we have the highest crime rate in the industrialized world?

Why did we have 16000 murders last year and the Germany only had 600? They don't execute anyone and they don't lock all that many people up. Oh, yeah, and they treat drug addiction as a medical problem instead of a criminal one.

What they don't do is let every asshole who wants a gun have one

I pretty much just told you what the problem is,you chose to ignore it. When some asswipe robs a liquor store he's back on the streets in two years,thats the problem.
You lock the shitheads up until they're old and gray and would have to make their getaway with a walker.

It's deeper than that. When some asswipe robs a liquor store that asswipe thinks he has a right to rob that liquor store. They want something, therefore they need it, they have a right to it and since that right is not satisfied, they have a right to rob the liquor store. Other countries like Germany, have a culture that understands the concept of working. They are proud to do a good job at whatever they do. It's not like that here. Our culture is one of gaming the system. We attack the problem from the other end. Punish wrongdoing when it occurs. The whole idea would be to have a people who aren't interested in wrongdoing.

 

[Katzndogz]

If locking people up and executing them deterred crime, why do we have the highest crime rate in the industrialized world?

Why did we have 16000 murders last year and the Germany only had 600? They don't execute anyone and they don't lock all that many people up. Oh, yeah, and they treat drug addiction as a medical problem instead of a criminal one.

What they don't do is let every asshole who wants a gun have one

I pretty much just told you what the problem is,you chose to ignore it. When some asswipe robs a liquor store he's back on the streets in two years,thats the problem.
You lock the shitheads up until they're old and gray and would have to make their getaway with a walker.

It's only a problem because we didn't spend those two years getting him ready to be a productive citizen when he got out.

In fact, what we usually do is lock up the guy who robbed a liquor store with a serial rapist, who sodomized him on a regular basis, he goes to the weight room to pump himself up, and he comes out a lot worse after two years than he was when he went in.

Again, or problem is not that we lock up too few people, it's that we lock up too many.

If the asswipe didn't want to be locked up with a serial rapist who would sodomize him on a regular basis he wouldn't rob the liquor store. The asswipe obviously doesn't mind being locked up with a serial rapist. He had a choice, and OUR choice is not to excuse robbing liquor stores.

 

[novasteve]

Any theories on why the media isn't covering this story heavily? right now the washington post has nothing on this story on the front page but they have a Newtown parents story on the front page.

 

[JoeB131]

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It's deeper than that. When some asswipe robs a liquor store that asswipe thinks he has a right to rob that liquor store. They want something, therefore they need it, they have a right to it and since that right is not satisfied, they have a right to rob the liquor store. Other countries like Germany, have a culture that understands the concept of working. They are proud to do a good job at whatever they do. It's not like that here. Our culture is one of gaming the system. We attack the problem from the other end. Punish wrongdoing when it occurs. The whole idea would be to have a people who aren't interested in wrongdoing.

Katz, the Germans have a more elaborate welfare system than we do, and they don't shame "Welfare people". The Post WWII German state was crafted by FDR's New Dealers, who were allowed to do what they wanted without Republicans getting in their way.

They have strong unions, strong workers rights. They were the first industrialized country to introduce both universal health care and social security. They also have a very progressive income tax, and you don't ever hear of a German CEO making 8 figures while his company is struggling.

More importantly, German companies and government see maintaining full employment over profitability as the key goal.

So if you really want to cite Germany as an ideal, maybe you should understand what you are idealizing.

 

[JoeB131]

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If the asswipe didn't want to be locked up with a serial rapist who would sodomize him on a regular basis he wouldn't rob the liquor store. The asswipe obviously doesn't mind being locked up with a serial rapist. He had a choice, and OUR choice is not to excuse robbing liquor stores.

Or we can find out why he was robbing a liquor store.

Maybe he robbed it because he couldn't get a job and he was hungry.

Maybe he robbed it because he's addicted and can't get rehab like a rich drug addict like Rush Limbaugh.

The problem is, you Wingnuts want to treat the effects without addressing the causes.

 

[novasteve]

Germans are very upset over how many turks are on welfare. It's a major issue. Oh also, Merkel has said that multiculturalism is a failure. Germany has a lot of unemployment.

Curious why do you think the government has a right to tell people in the private sector how much they can be paid?

 

[JoeB131]

Germans are very upset over how many turks are on welfare. It's a major issue. Oh also, Merkel has said that multiculturalism is a failure. Germany has a lot of unemployment.

Curious why do you think the government has a right to tell people in the private sector how much they can be paid?

Because someone needs to.

When the poor steal, it's called crime.

When the rich steal, it's called profits.

 

[novasteve]

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If the asswipe didn't want to be locked up with a serial rapist who would sodomize him on a regular basis he wouldn't rob the liquor store. The asswipe obviously doesn't mind being locked up with a serial rapist. He had a choice, and OUR choice is not to excuse robbing liquor stores.

Or we can find out why he was robbing a liquor store.

Maybe he robbed it because he couldn't get a job and he was hungry.

Maybe he robbed it because he's addicted and can't get rehab like a rich drug addict like Rush Limbaugh.

The problem is, you Wingnuts want to treat the effects without addressing the causes.

So what are the causes of abortion clinic bombings that need to be addressed?

 

[JoeB131]

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If the asswipe didn't want to be locked up with a serial rapist who would sodomize him on a regular basis he wouldn't rob the liquor store. The asswipe obviously doesn't mind being locked up with a serial rapist. He had a choice, and OUR choice is not to excuse robbing liquor stores.

Or we can find out why he was robbing a liquor store.

Maybe he robbed it because he couldn't get a job and he was hungry.

Maybe he robbed it because he's addicted and can't get rehab like a rich drug addict like Rush Limbaugh.

The problem is, you Wingnuts want to treat the effects without addressing the causes.

So what are the causes of abortion clinic bombings that need to be addressed?

Too much misogyny and religion?

 

[novasteve]

Or we can find out why he was robbing a liquor store.

Maybe he robbed it because he couldn't get a job and he was hungry.

Maybe he robbed it because he's addicted and can't get rehab like a rich drug addict like Rush Limbaugh.

The problem is, you Wingnuts want to treat the effects without addressing the causes.

So what are the causes of abortion clinic bombings that need to be addressed?

Too much misogyny and religion?

That's odd, normally you guys blame foreign policy for terrorism abd drug policy for crime but you don't blame abortiob policy for clinic bombings

 

[Katzndogz]

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It's deeper than that. When some asswipe robs a liquor store that asswipe thinks he has a right to rob that liquor store. They want something, therefore they need it, they have a right to it and since that right is not satisfied, they have a right to rob the liquor store. Other countries like Germany, have a culture that understands the concept of working. They are proud to do a good job at whatever they do. It's not like that here. Our culture is one of gaming the system. We attack the problem from the other end. Punish wrongdoing when it occurs. The whole idea would be to have a people who aren't interested in wrongdoing.

Katz, the Germans have a more elaborate welfare system than we do, and they don't shame "Welfare people". The Post WWII German state was crafted by FDR's New Dealers, who were allowed to do what they wanted without Republicans getting in their way.

They have strong unions, strong workers rights. They were the first industrialized country to introduce both universal health care and social security. They also have a very progressive income tax, and you don't ever hear of a German CEO making 8 figures while his company is struggling.

More importantly, German companies and government see maintaining full employment over profitability as the key goal.

So if you really want to cite Germany as an ideal, maybe you should understand what you are idealizing.

The Germans provide a generous welfare system, but the German people take more pride in themselves than in gaming the system. Germany does not really have a universal health care system supported by the government. They have a private/public partnership and everyone pays into it or has private insurance. This was what Mitt Romney used as a model for the Massachusettes Romneycare plan. They could do that in Massachusettes because 98% of the population was already covered by insurance.

The German "system" may not shame welfare recipients, but you can't say that about the German people who understand the difference between being truly in need and wanting to sit on one's ass. German people, culturally, reject sitting on one's ass. If we had the German system here, we'd have a very small percentage of people working and struggling to support the majority who want to sit on their ass.

 

[novasteve]

Imagine if we had the German education system here

 

[JoeB131]

So what are the causes of abortion clinic bombings that need to be addressed?

Too much misogyny and religion?

That's odd, normally you guys blame foreign policy for terrorism abd drug policy for crime but you don't blame abortiob policy for clinic bombings

No, because what I blame for clinic bombings is asshole ministers telling misfits that if they blow up the clinic or shoot the abortion doctor, their Magic Friend in the Sky will reward them.

If they weren't saying that shit, we wouldn't have Clinic bombings.

 

[namvet]

•Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
•When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
•Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
•The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

why is that???

 

[JoeB131]

The Germans provide a generous welfare system, but the German people take more pride in themselves than in gaming the system. Germany does not really have a universal health care system supported by the government. They have a private/public partnership and everyone pays into it or has private insurance. This was what Mitt Romney used as a model for the Massachusettes Romneycare plan. They could do that in Massachusettes because 98% of the population was already covered by insurance.

The German "system" may not shame welfare recipients, but you can't say that about the German people who understand the difference between being truly in need and wanting to sit on one's ass. German people, culturally, reject sitting on one's ass. If we had the German system here, we'd have a very small percentage of people working and struggling to support the majority who want to sit on their ass.

The problem is you think there are people out there "gaming" the system. Most of them would HAPPILY take a job that pays well.