Tom Horn
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I don't understand what the big deal is
Uh, maybe that Trump WAS spied on and the Obama had to have approved it?
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I don't understand what the big deal is
A fairy tale conspiracy theory asserting that a presidential candidate and the leader of Russia conspired to rig a presidential election: absolutely ZERO evidence; absurd; and politically motivated.
Odds are the intel community back doored the warrants IF there were warrants. I'm trying to get a handle on it.
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
Of course they are. Those crooks are under investigation, goofy.
So the wiretap allegations made by Trump are true? You cannot have it both ways, jizz drinker.
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I love how you dumb fucking rubes keep pretending that the report about unanimous agreement between 17 intelligence organizations on Russia's interference in the U.S. election doesn't exist. And how the deep ties between Trump's team members and Russia are just figments from someone's imagination.Trump's history, comments, campaign strategy, and embarrassing Presidency have convinced me that Trump is bad. Now get back to work trying to deflect this into being about "unmasking," and not about the traitors that were unmasked, like your masters want you to.Nunes? I don't care what a partisan hack running cover for Trump has to say. I want this investigation to be thorough and for Russia's pro-Trump intervention into our free elections to be explained, along with why multiple members of the Trump team were in direct contact with Russia during the campaign and transition period.Of course. The Trump team's ties to Russia are being investigated, and you think the investigation should exclude the Trump team? Crazy.
Nunes is pissed. It is illegal to unmask any American. Oh and the information that was spread around and leaked had nothing to do with Russia for the most part.
"Nunes said he had viewed dozens of documents showing that the information had been incidentally collected. He said that he believes the information was legally collected.
Nunes said that the intelligence has nothing to do with Russia and that the collection occurred after the presidential election."
Nunes said he briefed House Speaker Paul RyanPaul RyanRepublican flips to yes on healthcare bill GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team (R-Wis.) on the revelation and will inform the White House later today.
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
You want the witch hunt to be thorough and Stalinesque because the leftist scum have convinced you that Trump is bad and that he did bad things, you rube.
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Hmmmm....
1. Unmasking: exposing identities and transcripts of electronic surveillance; very illegal, very much a felony. We know for a fact this happened.
Vs.
2. A fairy tale conspiracy theory asserting that a presidential candidate and the leader of Russia conspired to rig a presidential election: absolutely ZERO evidence; absurd; and politically motivated.
Sounds like the REAL conspiracy here is the one to bring down a sitting US president.
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The term "wiretap" is being used generally.
My god, you're a dipshit! You actually bought that line that wiretapping didn't actually mean wiretapping? That was the literal definition of a walk back.
I don't understand what the big deal is
The big deal is they broke the law by unmasking individuals. And this. How it was spread around when the information had nothing to do with any foreign intelligence value.
That's a freaking biggie.
The U.S. intelligence community incidentally collected information on members of President Trump's transition team and the information was "widely disseminated" in intelligence reports, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) said Wednesday.
"I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions, the intelligence community collected information on U.S. individuals involved in the Trump transition," Nunes told reporters.
"Details about U.S. persons involved in the incoming administration with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reports."
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
"Wiretapping" doesn't literally mean wiretapping, because it was in quotes. Well newsflash, Donald Trump said it four times and only put it in quotes twice.
I can't believe they are using this defense. These people are morons.
First it was "Incidental" surveillance that resulted in the recording of private citizen Flynn. Now it turns out that SEVERAL Trump people were under this "incidental" surveillance between Election Day and the inauguration. Obviously, this was all being directed by Obama people.
There is a big storm brewing. Before it is all said and done many Democrat pols are going to prison.
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
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Trump's history, comments, campaign strategy, and embarrassing Presidency have convinced me that Trump is bad. Now get back to work trying to deflect this into being about "unmasking," and not about the traitors that were unmasked, like your masters want you to.Nunes? I don't care what a partisan hack running cover for Trump has to say. I want this investigation to be thorough and for Russia's pro-Trump intervention into our free elections to be explained, along with why multiple members of the Trump team were in direct contact with Russia during the campaign and transition period.
You want the witch hunt to be thorough and Stalinesque because the leftist scum have convinced you that Trump is bad and that he did bad things, you rube.
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Those that were unmasked did nothing illegal. But some in the intel community can and will be hunted and brought to justice for the unmasking and leaking.
The only crime committed that we know of at this point is the unmasking and leaking. Whoever the guilty party is needs to be identified and brought to justice.
We don't know that that's a crime. We don't know that FISA was violated because a FISA warrant is not necessary for listening in on foreign agents' phone calls. Comey made that clear when Gowdy was making a mockery of himself the other day.
Breaking:House Intel Chair: Trump and team spied on during transition
"During transition"?
Rump's twit said it was during the "election process". The one he described as "sacred" (even though the Constitution doesn't require it).
Moving the goalposts? For free?
Duh. You don't think a criminal investigation should include investigating the criminal? Ridiculous.
Wiretaps of political opposition, Dude.
Assertion that FBI, British Intelligence and Republican Congress rejected as baseless fabrications.
Anything else Dude?
First it was "Incidental" surveillance that resulted in the recording of private citizen Flynn. Now it turns out that SEVERAL Trump people were under this "incidental" surveillance between Election Day and the inauguration. Obviously, this was all being directed by Obama people.
There is a big storm brewing. Before it is all said and done many Democrat pols are going to prison.
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
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Then it was a crime for the FBI to "unmask" Hillary when they took e-mails from Huma and Anthony Weiner. What did Comey say back then? That he felt the American people deserved to know? HmmTrump's history, comments, campaign strategy, and embarrassing Presidency have convinced me that Trump is bad. Now get back to work trying to deflect this into being about "unmasking," and not about the traitors that were unmasked, like your masters want you to.You want the witch hunt to be thorough and Stalinesque because the leftist scum have convinced you that Trump is bad and that he did bad things, you rube.
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Those that were unmasked did nothing illegal. But some in the intel community can and will be hunted and brought to justice for the unmasking and leaking.
The only crime committed that we know of at this point is the unmasking and leaking. Whoever the guilty party is needs to be identified and brought to justice.
We don't know that that's a crime. We don't know that FISA was violated because a FISA warrant is not necessary for listening in on foreign agents' phone calls. Comey made that clear when Gowdy was making a mockery of himself the other day.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNMASKING AND LEAKING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?
One is legal and the other isn't.
The "unmasking" of Flynn's name is routine, Wittes said. But, he said, sharing Flynn's name publicly "is both shocking and inappropriate."
It is a crime to disclose or "leak" classified information. The contents of intelligence collected under the authorities of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, are classified. Flynn's conversation with Kislyak was collected under these authorities and therefore classified.
First it was "Incidental" surveillance that resulted in the recording of private citizen Flynn. Now it turns out that SEVERAL Trump people were under this "incidental" surveillance between Election Day and the inauguration. Obviously, this was all being directed by Obama people.
There is a big storm brewing. Before it is all said and done many Democrat pols are going to prison.
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
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You just don't understand incidental, they were wiring tapping the Russian's when Trump team pops in to say Hi Vladmir, that is where they got them. If trumptards had not called the Russian's the U.S. would not have them on tape. It's called we monitor the Russian's everyday, before Obama and today. So quit your whining snowflake and get back to work.
Odds are the intel community back doored the warrants IF there were warrants. I'm trying to get a handle on it.
GOP chairman: Surveillance was collected about Trump transition team
Are you really that stupid?Then it was a crime for the FBI to "unmask" Hillary when they took e-mails from Huma and Anthony Weiner. What did Comey say back then? That he felt the American people deserved to know? HmmTrump's history, comments, campaign strategy, and embarrassing Presidency have convinced me that Trump is bad. Now get back to work trying to deflect this into being about "unmasking," and not about the traitors that were unmasked, like your masters want you to.
Those that were unmasked did nothing illegal. But some in the intel community can and will be hunted and brought to justice for the unmasking and leaking.
The only crime committed that we know of at this point is the unmasking and leaking. Whoever the guilty party is needs to be identified and brought to justice.
We don't know that that's a crime. We don't know that FISA was violated because a FISA warrant is not necessary for listening in on foreign agents' phone calls. Comey made that clear when Gowdy was making a mockery of himself the other day.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNMASKING AND LEAKING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?
One is legal and the other isn't.
The "unmasking" of Flynn's name is routine, Wittes said. But, he said, sharing Flynn's name publicly "is both shocking and inappropriate."
It is a crime to disclose or "leak" classified information. The contents of intelligence collected under the authorities of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, are classified. Flynn's conversation with Kislyak was collected under these authorities and therefore classified.