Breaking: Justice Kagan Must Recuse Herself From Upcoming Gay Marriage Hearing

Would Kagan sitting on the 2015 gay-marriage Hearing in SCOTUS destroy your faith in Justice?

  • Yes, absolutely. A US Supreme Court Justice must obey the 2009 Finding to recuse themself.

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • No, it's OK to preside over a gay wedding and then sit on a case objectively about gay weddings.

    Votes: 14 43.8%

  • Total voters
    32
Supreme Court Justices generally do not officiate at weddings. That is not their job. The fact that she went out of her way to do so indicates a lack of impartiality. It doesnt help that she's also gay.
No, she will need to recuse.
Actually, all judges are legally capable of doing civil marriage ceremonies, and many do. But you seem to think that Supreme Court Justices generally don't do that....based on what?
 
LOL.....always good to hear from other wingnuts besides Silhouette.

To be clear, you are defining "wingnuts" as people who believe their US Supreme Court Justices should give a public appearance of lack of bias..

..this cult and its sychophant's overweening will pass the tipping point into tyranny upon the moment these two Justices appear on the gay marriage case in a couple of week's time.

Tyranny, huh? Why not use more dramatic terms like 'Coup' or 'Treason' or 'Slavery'. At the very least, throw in a Nazi reference.

Nazis in Germany around late 1930s also incrementally passed this tipping point.

Well shit. You've got the Nazi references covered too. Now do zombies.

Foolishness is not a quality of a US Supreme Court Justice. It was/is a public flaunting of lack of wisdom (I would actually call it calculated-arrogance), their presiding over gay marriages while the question hangs in the air.

Yeah, but disagreeing with you isn't 'foolishness'. As you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Silo, you're merely establishing your mythology now. Slowly constructing all the fantasies you're going to lean on when you absolutely lose your shit in June. All to relieve the dissonance created by what you want to believe, and what reality actually demonstrates.
 
In the case of Kagan, we have an unbelievable display of overt bias in addition to the shadow-bias the entire Court is displaying to the public: Justices Indicate Shadow-Bias Gay Marriage Question Erodes Last Bastion of Impariality Page 40 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

This is behavior unbecoming on an unsettled question of law for a US Supreme Court Justice. I just stumbled upon this today:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Elena Kagan has officiated for the first time at a same-sex wedding, a Maryland ceremony for her former law clerk and his husband.
Kagan presided on Sunday over the wedding of former clerk Mitchell Reich and Patrick Pearsall in the Washington suburb of Chevy Chase, Maryland. Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan Performs Her First Same-Sex Wedding
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that elected judges must step aside from cases when large campaign contributions from interested parties create the appearance of bias...Voting 5-4 in a case from West Virginia, the high court said that a judge who remained involved in a lawsuit — one filed against a company helmed by a generous supporter of the justice's campaign — deprived the other side of the constitutional right to a fair trial.Court Judges must avoid appearance of bias - politics - Supreme Court NBC News
By the Court's 2009 Finding, Kagan must recuse herself from sitting on the upcoming Hearing on gay marriage.
Yea A Bulldyke Justice wont have any bias on same sex marriage rulings
You really got hurt by some strong woman way back when, didn't you?
 
this should be left in the STATES.

Supreme court has no business in this

If there's a violation of constitutional guarantees, then of course the Supreme Court should get involved. The 14th amendment mandates it.
 
In the case of Kagan, we have an unbelievable display of overt bias in addition to the shadow-bias the entire Court is displaying to the public: Justices Indicate Shadow-Bias Gay Marriage Question Erodes Last Bastion of Impariality Page 40 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

This is behavior unbecoming on an unsettled question of law for a US Supreme Court Justice. I just stumbled upon this today:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Elena Kagan has officiated for the first time at a same-sex wedding, a Maryland ceremony for her former law clerk and his husband.
Kagan presided on Sunday over the wedding of former clerk Mitchell Reich and Patrick Pearsall in the Washington suburb of Chevy Chase, Maryland. Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan Performs Her First Same-Sex Wedding
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that elected judges must step aside from cases when large campaign contributions from interested parties create the appearance of bias...Voting 5-4 in a case from West Virginia, the high court said that a judge who remained involved in a lawsuit — one filed against a company helmed by a generous supporter of the justice's campaign — deprived the other side of the constitutional right to a fair trial.Court Judges must avoid appearance of bias - politics - Supreme Court NBC News
By the Court's 2009 Finding, Kagan must recuse herself from sitting on the upcoming Hearing on gay marriage.
Yea A Bulldyke Justice wont have any bias on same sex marriage rulings
You really got hurt by some strong woman way back when, didn't you?
You really got hurt by some strong male in your life, did'nt you?
 
That you think this is 'breaking news' just shows how far down the rabbit hole you have gone.

Are or are not the two stories' colliding occuring in just a few weeks? Kagan and Ginsburg presiding over gay weddings and the case-to-be-heard on same-sex marriage? Yes or no?

Explain what 'bias' is created. You assume it...but you can't prove it or even describe it.

What, pray tell, would they be biased against. Or for?
 
2013 Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided at a same-sex wedding Saturday evening at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
The wedding was between Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser, who is a longtime friend of hers, and John Roberts, a government economist... “It’s very meaningful mostly to have a friend officiate, and then for someone of her stature, it’s a very big honor,” Kaiser said... Justice Ginsburg Presides at Same-Sex Wedding - ABC News

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The equivalent to this would be a Justice in a photo shovelling dirt on the groundbreaking for the Keystone Pipeline while a challenge of law was pending to be Heard in SCOTUS on the Keystone Pipeline.
 
How does one adhering to the law by officiating over a gay wedding show bias?

Easy. When one is a US Supreme Court Justice who Upheld in 2009 that no judge may sit on a case yet to be Heard for which s/he has displayed clear bias. This rule applies most rigorously to a US Supreme Court Justice.
So then let me ask you this...If she had refused to officiate over that wedding....wouldn't that, too, show bias?

So that being said.....being asked to officiate it....regardless of her answer.....would put her in a position to show bias one way or the other.....am I correct?
The answer to the first quesiton is no. Not if her response was "Officiating would indicate bias on my part so I cant do it."
I see. I was not aware that she officiated it after she was a Supreme Court Justice.

To be frank...it was poor judgment on her part.
Apparently late 2014 so yeah she was in office.
She's a dyke. Of course she's for gay marriage. She couldnt in a 100 years be unbiased about this. Thats why she needs to recuse herself.
She is? I was not aware you were privy to her sexual orientation.
 
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided at a same-sex wedding Saturday evening at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
The wedding was between Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser, who is a longtime friend of hers, and John Roberts, a government economist... “It’s very meaningful mostly to have a friend officiate, and then for someone of her stature, it’s a very big honor,” Kaiser said... Justice Ginsburg Presides at Same-Sex Wedding - ABC News

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The equivalent to this would be a Justice in a photo shovelling dirt on the groundbreaking for the Keystone Pipeline while a challenge of law was pending to be Heard in SCOTUS on the Keystone Pipeline.
No, the equivalent of this would be a Justice in a photo pumping gas that came from oil while a challenge of law was pending to be heard in SCOTUS on the Keystone Pipeline.
 
2013 Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided at a same-sex wedding Saturday evening at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
The wedding was between Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser, who is a longtime friend of hers, and John Roberts, a government economist... “It’s very meaningful mostly to have a friend officiate, and then for someone of her stature, it’s a very big honor,” Kaiser said... Justice Ginsburg Presides at Same-Sex Wedding - ABC News

ginsburg%20gay%20wedding_zpslq9awmta.jpg


The equivalent to this would be a Justice in a photo shovelling dirt on the groundbreaking for the Keystone Pipeline while a challenge of law was pending to be Heard in SCOTUS on the Keystone Pipeline.
No, the equivalent of this would be a Justice in a photo pumping gas that came from oil while a challenge of law was pending to be heard in SCOTUS on the Keystone Pipeline.

No, the article depicts Ginsburg presiding as groundbreaking...(from the link at top)

“I think that everything that’s going on that makes same-sex marriage possible and visible helps to encourage others and to make the issue seem less of an issue, to make it just more part of life.”

It's in-your-face public display of bias, and meddling to affect an outcome, two things forbidden to Supreme Court Justices..
 
2013 Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided at a same-sex wedding Saturday evening at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
The wedding was between Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser, who is a longtime friend of hers, and John Roberts, a government economist... “It’s very meaningful mostly to have a friend officiate, and then for someone of her stature, it’s a very big honor,” Kaiser said... Justice Ginsburg Presides at Same-Sex Wedding - ABC News

ginsburg%20gay%20wedding_zpslq9awmta.jpg


The equivalent to this would be a Justice in a photo shovelling dirt on the groundbreaking for the Keystone Pipeline while a challenge of law was pending to be Heard in SCOTUS on the Keystone Pipeline.

And what bias is she demonstrating specifically? Remember, DC had already voted to allow same sex marriage.

So how could she be demonstrating a bias against same sex marriage bans.....

....when there was no same sex marriage ban?


You've never been able to explain that.
 
The anti-gay marriage folks see the writing on the wall so isn't that shocking to see these hysterical excuses are already starting to tickle in.
 
The anti-gay marriage folks see the writing on the wall so isn't that shocking to see these hysterical excuses are already starting to tickle in.
Seeing the writing on the wall is precisely the reason these two Justices must recuse themselves.

Thanks for underscoring my points.
 
The anti-gay marriage folks see the writing on the wall so isn't that shocking to see these hysterical excuses are already starting to tickle in.

Oh, Sil knows what's coming. And we're going to be witness to a spectacular meltdown with a 3 month opening act. All the babble about 'tyranny' and 'nazis' is just him warming up.
 
The anti-gay marriage folks see the writing on the wall so isn't that shocking to see these hysterical excuses are already starting to tickle in.
Seeing the writing on the wall is precisely the reason these two Justices must recuse themselves.

Thanks for underscoring my points.

You can't even describe what bias could possibly be demonstrated. Let alone show us evidence that any was.

As there were no same sex marriage bans in either Maryland nor DC.

Which you already know. But really hope we don't.
 
The anti-gay marriage folks see the writing on the wall so isn't that shocking to see these hysterical excuses are already starting to tickle in.

Oh, Sil knows what's coming. And we're going to be witness to a spectacular meltdown with a 3 month opening act. All the babble about 'tyranny' and 'nazis' is just him warming up.
I will be disappointed if this all completely plays out before the Presidential campaign season.
 
The anti-gay marriage folks see the writing on the wall so isn't that shocking to see these hysterical excuses are already starting to tickle in.
Seeing the writing on the wall is precisely the reason these two Justices must recuse themselves.

Thanks for underscoring my points.

You don't have any points to underscore. These two justices are not going to recuse themselves on the account of your butt hurt.
 
If Ginsburg knew that same-sex marriage were going to come before the court she should have recused herself from performing the marriage in question.

If she didn't know the case was coming then she could be excused criticism for having participated.

However, if she didn't know the case was coming then she should be completely removed from the court for proven mental incompetence.
 

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