Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner…

[Jitss617]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

Lol wow

 

[iceberg]

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Why should I do your homework.... especially for such a nasty male bitch as you?

You have fingers, look up the law in that state....

so - i'm right.

you're just farting out your mouth to be a bitch about things but in the end, you know god damn good and well how full of shit you are.

carry on.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Bottom line, the goons entered private property and quickly realized oh shit!!!

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Why should I do your homework.... especially for such a nasty male bitch as you?

You have fingers, look up the law in that state....

Missouri had Stand Your Ground laws....YOU look it up

 

[hadit]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

 

[Flash]

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

Liar!!!!!!

You are like all Moon Bats. You are uneducated and low information.

Here are the facts:

They were facing an angry mob on their property. And this was in the context of an extended period of violence and arson in the surrounding neighborhoods. Media reports of them "taking it to the suburbs" were as credible as anything the press has reported lately. The police had advised them they would not be responding. Some of the protesters were taunting them with death threats giving more of an appearance of a lynch mob than a weekly Bible study group. A metal gate had been smashed to gain entry to the property. They were entirely reasonable in their actions. If anything, they were a bit reserved about it. You can't say they had planned or laid a trap seeing as how they didn't even have shoes on during the incident.

So go fuck yourself Moon Bat.

"They were facing an angry mob on their property."

Wrong. The crowd was not on their property.

And the husband had his gun drawn before he was threatened. It's all on video, including the video of the husband admitting he brandished his firearm before any threats were made.

Gated Community is privately owned to including the streets ... Fucking moron !

Communists like this Faun Queerboi thinks that all property belongs to "the people". They don't understand individaul property rights just like they don't understand the concept of individual liberty.

 

[iceberg]

Bottom line, the goons entered private property and quickly realized oh shit!!!

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Why should I do your homework.... especially for such a nasty male bitch as you?

You have fingers, look up the law in that state....

Missouri had Stand Your Ground laws....YOU look it up

in my entire time here she has NEVER used facts or links to back up her story.

just a lot of glitter-tit whining.

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The puzzie communist anti-Constitution activists want you disarmed.
They really don't care about particular incidents. Nor do they care if violent criminals are still armed. they coddle criminals.

I suggest you don't let them.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Every freedom loving person in this country has a vested interest in the outcome of this case.

Elections have consequences.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Bottom line, the goons entered private property and quickly realized oh shit!!!

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Why should I do your homework.... especially for such a nasty male bitch as you?

You have fingers, look up the law in that state....

Missouri had Stand Your Ground laws....YOU look it up

in my entire time here she has NEVER used facts or links to back up her story.

just a lot of glitter-tit whining.

She's comical. Never backs anything up and expects to be taken at face value.

The gate was open? We live in a gated community, you don't have the code you don't get in

 

[iceberg]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

 

[iceberg]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

 

[iceberg]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

I'm confused. I said in my very first post that I did not think the charges would stick and hugely paranoid or not they could do what they did.

So again, what are you arguing with me over?

 

[iceberg]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

I'm confused. I said in my very first post that I did not think the charges would stick and hugely paranoid or not they could do what they did.

So again, what are you arguing with me over?

charges
never
should
have
been
filed

it's a political game from a marxist. that's all.

but your stance of THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM - you have zero way of knowing that. ZERO.

and it's akin to teaching helen keller to hear to get you to listen.

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

I'm confused. I said in my very first post that I did not think the charges would stick and hugely paranoid or not they could do what they did.

So again, what are you arguing with me over?

charges
never
should
have
been
filed

it's a political game from a marxist. that's all.

but your stance of THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM - you have zero way of knowing that. ZERO.

and it's akin to teaching helen keller to hear to get you to listen.

Let's see. They peacefully turn themselves in or get arrested and then fight it in the courts. Right?

 

[iceberg]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

I'm confused. I said in my very first post that I did not think the charges would stick and hugely paranoid or not they could do what they did.

So again, what are you arguing with me over?

charges
never
should
have
been
filed

it's a political game from a marxist. that's all.

but your stance of THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM - you have zero way of knowing that. ZERO.

and it's akin to teaching helen keller to hear to get you to listen.

Let's see. They peacefully turn themselves in or get arrested and then fight it in the courts. Right?

again - nothing to do with the fact that you have zero idea of the intention of the crowd.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

I'm confused. I said in my very first post that I did not think the charges would stick and hugely paranoid or not they could do what they did.

So again, what are you arguing with me over?

charges
never
should
have
been
filed

it's a political game from a marxist. that's all.

but your stance of THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM - you have zero way of knowing that. ZERO.

and it's akin to teaching helen keller to hear to get you to listen.

Let's see. They peacefully turn themselves in or get arrested and then fight it in the courts. Right?

Get arrested.....the payout for wrongful arrest pays more