Breaking News: Supreme Court Has Chosen Not To Hear Any Of The 7 Marriage Equality Cases.

Equality is that those that produce/raise the future are taxed at a lower rate than those that do not.


Where do you assume that people are taxed at different rates based on being married or not?

The rate is determined by Adjust Gross Income. The rate of tax is determined by how much you make not really by whether someone is married or not. The deduction for a single person is $6,200. The deduction for a married couple is $12,400 for the two people.

The people that produce the "future" (assuming you mean children) get a deduction for each child - that deduction is not conditional on being married or single, straight or gay.



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Why bring sexual orientation into this? I've addressed that. I also addressed the child deduction. It ends when the child leaves home. It, or maybe a lower rate deduction should continue as the child becomes a tax payer.

That is a continuing societal benefit.
 
The Justices are waiting until after the elections to hear these cases. There is nothing stopping them from hearing them or similar cases later. Federal judges unilaterally overturning duly voted on referendums like Prop 8 is a bad precedent for the legal system, and nobody is going to be happy with the consequences of that.
 
Now let's change the tax code so that only households that raise(d) the future generations get tax breaks.

Then we can talk equity.

er... no. :cuckoo:

er... Yes

so if someone is infertile they should have a different tax rate than someone who can have a child?

rightwingnuthackworld is funny

Where did that come from?

Do you actually read before insulting

Invitro or adoption are acceptable (see previous posts)

Good lord


So a gay or lesbian couple that uses adoption or invitro (egg and/or sperm donation) get's a lower tax rate for life right?



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wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
TOLERANCE

Not acceptance.

Is it so hard to tolerate someone else? Must we all conform to a narrow template of morality? Who arbitrates this morality? Used to be Queen Victoria, but that was under the aegis of the throne in Great Britain. But in America?

The government is mandating that two consenting adults without a blood relationship may avail themselves of the benefits and protections of the marriage contract.

Why do you have a problem with that? Will same sex marriage ruin your marriage?

You are just a bigot whose world is shrinking. Tough.
 
Now let's change the tax code so that only households that raise(d) the future generations get tax breaks.

Then we can talk equity.

er... no. :cuckoo:

er... Yes

so if someone is infertile they should have a different tax rate than someone who can have a child?

rightwingnuthackworld is funny

Where did that come from?

Do you actually read before insulting

Invitro or adoption are acceptable (see previous posts)

Good lord


So a gay or lesbian couple that uses adoption or invitro (egg and/or sperm donation) get's a lower tax rate for life right?



>>>>

Arghhhh, been addressed

Yes, if they raised a child they are supplying what is needed for the world to go on.
 
wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
Keep that in mind if you serve on a jury in a crime where the victim is gay. Keep that in mind when the perversion that this nation has become wants your patriotism.
That has nothing to do with my post.
 
wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
TOLERANCE

Not acceptance.

Is it so hard to tolerate someone else? Must we all conform to a narrow template of morality? Who arbitrates this morality? Used to be Queen Victoria, but that was under the aegis of the throne in Great Britain. But in America?

The government is mandating that two consenting adults without a blood relationship may avail themselves of the benefits and protections of the marriage contract.

Why do you have a problem with that? Will same sex marriage ruin your marriage?

You are just a bigot whose world is shrinking. Tough.

Looks like my post went over your head, too. Tolerance means not interfering. Forced acquiescence is interference. Homos want to force their irrelevant behavior onto others. That is the opposite of tolerance.
 
The Justices are waiting until after the elections to hear these cases. There is nothing stopping them from hearing them or similar cases later.

Picaro,

They didn't defer the cases - which means they would reexamine them at a later conference.

They rejected the writs - those cases are dead. The Stays are lifted. Marriages have started or will start soon.


TFederal judges unilaterally overturning duly voted on referendums like Prop 8 is a bad precedent for the legal system, and nobody is going to be happy with the consequences of that.


That precedent wasn't set in Hollingsworth v. Perry (Prop 8, 2013), the precedent was set in Loving v. Virginia (1967) - that decision overturned Virginia law, but if also overturned the Constitutional Amendment which put and interracial marriage ban in the Alabama Constitution. A duly voted on referendum.


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The reactionaries who can't believe their world is changing continue to freak out.
 
wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
TOLERANCE

Not acceptance.

Is it so hard to tolerate someone else? Must we all conform to a narrow template of morality? Who arbitrates this morality? Used to be Queen Victoria, but that was under the aegis of the throne in Great Britain. But in America?

The government is mandating that two consenting adults without a blood relationship may avail themselves of the benefits and protections of the marriage contract.

Why do you have a problem with that? Will same sex marriage ruin your marriage?

You are just a bigot whose world is shrinking. Tough.

Looks like my post went over your head, too. Tolerance means not interfering. Forced acquiescence is interference. Homos want to force their irrelevant behavior onto others. That is the opposite of tolerance.

False.
 
wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
TOLERANCE

Not acceptance.

Is it so hard to tolerate someone else? Must we all conform to a narrow template of morality? Who arbitrates this morality? Used to be Queen Victoria, but that was under the aegis of the throne in Great Britain. But in America?

The government is mandating that two consenting adults without a blood relationship may avail themselves of the benefits and protections of the marriage contract.

Why do you have a problem with that? Will same sex marriage ruin your marriage?

You are just a bigot whose world is shrinking. Tough.

Looks like my post went over your head, too. Tolerance means not interfering. Forced acquiescence is interference. Homos want to force their irrelevant behavior onto others. That is the opposite of tolerance.

False.
Went over your head, too, eh? Explain why it is 'false' as you say.
 

so if someone is infertile they should have a different tax rate than someone who can have a child?

rightwingnuthackworld is funny

Where did that come from?

Do you actually read before insulting

Invitro or adoption are acceptable (see previous posts)

Good lord


So a gay or lesbian couple that uses adoption or invitro (egg and/or sperm donation) get's a lower tax rate for life right?



>>>>

Arghhhh, been addressed

Yes, if they raised a child they are supplying what is needed for the world to go on.


OK so the lifetime tax deduction is available to heterosexuals and homosexuals.


Is it based in the individual testing positive for fertility. In other words the government makes you go to the doctor have a test and submit the medical results? I guess guys would have to go in and jerk-off in a cup and women would have to have expensive procedures to determine if the eggs were viable.

Or is it based on performance, actually having a child born?

Now for women it's pretty easy to determine performance, but for men - will they need to get a get a DNA test to prove that they qualify because they produced off spring or do we just go with the name on the birth certificate? So a woman can go out and screw around and the infertile Dad gets credit?



Share with us specifically how this brilliant idea is going to work?



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This has been explained continually, Rosh.

No more. You don't get "just once more."

It's over.
 
wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
TOLERANCE

Not acceptance.

Is it so hard to tolerate someone else? Must we all conform to a narrow template of morality? Who arbitrates this morality? Used to be Queen Victoria, but that was under the aegis of the throne in Great Britain. But in America?

The government is mandating that two consenting adults without a blood relationship may avail themselves of the benefits and protections of the marriage contract.

Why do you have a problem with that? Will same sex marriage ruin your marriage?

You are just a bigot whose world is shrinking. Tough.

Looks like my post went over your head, too. Tolerance means not interfering. Forced acquiescence is interference. Homos want to force their irrelevant behavior onto others. That is the opposite of tolerance.
I cannot see any correlation between marriage equality and anyone force(ing) their irrelevant behavior onto others. Do heterosexual married couples 'force' their lives upon yours?
 
er... Yes

so if someone is infertile they should have a different tax rate than someone who can have a child?

rightwingnuthackworld is funny

Where did that come from?

Do you actually read before insulting

Invitro or adoption are acceptable (see previous posts)

Good lord


So a gay or lesbian couple that uses adoption or invitro (egg and/or sperm donation) get's a lower tax rate for life right?



>>>>

Arghhhh, been addressed

Yes, if they raised a child they are supplying what is needed for the world to go on.


OK so the lifetime tax deduction is available to heterosexuals and homosexuals.


Is it based in the individual testing positive for fertility. In other words the government makes you go to the doctor have a test and submit the medical results?

Or is it based on performance?

Now for women it's pretty easy to determine performance, but for men - will they need to get a get a DNA test to prove that they qualify because they produced off spring or do we just go with the name on the birth certificate? So a woman can go out and screw around and the infertile Dad gets credit?



Share with us specifically how this brilliant idea is going to work?



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Child in home = credit

Child grows to maturity = credit

Simple nuff?
 
The Justices are waiting until after the elections to hear these cases. There is nothing stopping them from hearing them or similar cases later.

Picaro,

They didn't defer the cases - which means they would reexamine them at a later conference.

True, but there is nothing stopping similar cases from being filed again and heard later, and I'm sure there will be more, and from the same states.

That precedent wasn't set in Hollingsworth v. Perry (Prop 8, 2013), the precedent was set in Loving v. Virginia (1967) - that decision overturned Virginia law, but if also overturned the Constitutional Amendment which put and interracial marriage ban in the Alabama Constitution. A duly voted on referendum.

I used the Prop 8 as it is the most pertinent and one most have heard of. If I'm not mistaken the SC heard and ruled on Loving v. Virginia. I'll look it up later, but if so then that isn't similar to the legal issues in this thread re the Federal Courts and the SC not hearing the appeals at all.
 
wonderful news for individual rights
No. It's a ruling against rights and freedom.
The gov mandating by fascist decree that all people must acknowledge and acquiesce to irrelevant kinky sex between non-procreative adults is an infringement upon rights and freedom. Not even a religious thing. Just basic logic. Something that eludes most democrats and lefties.
TOLERANCE

Not acceptance.

Is it so hard to tolerate someone else? Must we all conform to a narrow template of morality? Who arbitrates this morality? Used to be Queen Victoria, but that was under the aegis of the throne in Great Britain. But in America?

The government is mandating that two consenting adults without a blood relationship may avail themselves of the benefits and protections of the marriage contract.

Why do you have a problem with that? Will same sex marriage ruin your marriage?

You are just a bigot whose world is shrinking. Tough.

Looks like my post went over your head, too. Tolerance means not interfering. Forced acquiescence is interference. Homos want to force their irrelevant behavior onto others. That is the opposite of tolerance.
I cannot see any correlation between marriage equality and anyone force(ing) their irrelevant behavior onto others. Do heterosexual married couples 'force' their lives upon yours?
When they create children they have. On those children by their mere existence and others in the sense that new people exist to affect society. Homos cannot create children therefore no need to involve the government or others.
 

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