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It is wrong. It was incidental collection, since the target was from a FISA warrant. And the Trump associates were cauight talking to people under FISA surveilance. And the NatSecAdv needed to know who the bad guys were talking to, which is why their names were unmasked.Is this wrong or right?
...it was not 'incidental collection of intelligence'....it was purely political spying by Obamunists.
Take notes, MutatedGene:
There are only two reasons for unmasking of a US citizen's name:
1. Is there a need to know the name of the citizen to understand the contest of the monitored intell.
2. If the citizen is involved in illegal activity.
It is illegal for the intell, maked or other wise, to be passes to journalists or made known.
As the spying by the Obamunists had nothing to do with the Russian investigation, there is no reason for either the spying or the unmasking....outside of this:
"Which proves that the real reason the Obama administration was feverishly collecting and sharing the classified information was not for national security purposes, but for nakedly POLITICAL reasons having nothing to do with anything other than Democrats being nothing but rancid, rotten, toxic piles of demonized slime.
.... we need to start putting Obama officials by the hundreds in jail until we get to the bottom of this fascist weaponization of intelligence organizations that we depend upon not to take us down the road to Stalinism."
Confirmed: Fascist, Felonious Obama Administration Spied On Private American Citizens And Used US Intelligence Services As Political Weapon
Soooo....during a presidential campaign, the Obama administration was spying on the people around Donald Trump.
Isn't what the Obamunists did exactly what the Democrats were so incensed about in Watergate????
What a superbly objective and professionally written piece of journalism titled "Fascist felonious Obama administration".
What, nothing from the National Enquirer?
When you can't dispute the facts, try to dispute the source of the message.
You learned that in indoctrination school...er, government school?
Yeah, and I guarantee you didn't read the Atlantic article I posted which clearly stated Rice did nothing wrong.
I see we're supposed to forget all about yesterday's news and get back on the nothing you have on a Russia connection.Trump throw's out the wildest shit without proof then demands that everyone muses on what if it did happen and what it would mean.
Instead of searching for his red herrings and asking what they mean if it's real how about the news refuses to cover any of it until Trump acts to prove the allegations?
If this isn't proof that Jake is lying when he claims to be a Republican, I don't know else would.
It is wrong. It was incidental collection, since the target was from a FISA warrant. And the Trump associates were cauight talking to people under FISA surveilance. And the NatSecAdv needed to know who the bad guys were talking to, which is why their names were unmasked.
Take notes, MutatedGene:
There are only two reasons for unmasking of a US citizen's name:
1. Is there a need to know the name of the citizen to understand the contest of the monitored intell.
2. If the citizen is involved in illegal activity.
It is illegal for the intell, maked or other wise, to be passes to journalists or made known.
As the spying by the Obamunists had nothing to do with the Russian investigation, there is no reason for either the spying or the unmasking....outside of this:
"Which proves that the real reason the Obama administration was feverishly collecting and sharing the classified information was not for national security purposes, but for nakedly POLITICAL reasons having nothing to do with anything other than Democrats being nothing but rancid, rotten, toxic piles of demonized slime.
.... we need to start putting Obama officials by the hundreds in jail until we get to the bottom of this fascist weaponization of intelligence organizations that we depend upon not to take us down the road to Stalinism."
Confirmed: Fascist, Felonious Obama Administration Spied On Private American Citizens And Used US Intelligence Services As Political Weapon
Soooo....during a presidential campaign, the Obama administration was spying on the people around Donald Trump.
Isn't what the Obamunists did exactly what the Democrats were so incensed about in Watergate????
What a superbly objective and professionally written piece of journalism titled "Fascist felonious Obama administration".
What, nothing from the National Enquirer?
When you can't dispute the facts, try to dispute the source of the message.
You learned that in indoctrination school...er, government school?
Yeah, and I guarantee you didn't read the Atlantic article I posted which clearly stated Rice did nothing wrong.
Then why are you Obamunists sweating?
Sorry, but your cheeto-in-chief has STILL not been vindicated for his nonsensical tweet about "wiretapping", and virtually every Republican agrees with this.
Christie: No evidence Trump was spied on
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It's good of you to have crawled over for a bout of education....and I'm here to provide it!
Not as simple as you are, but simple enough to provide the proof:
1. "The FBI investigated a Trump server in its Russia probe, but no charges are expected by John Solomon and Sara Carter
The months-long [Obama] FBI counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential campaign briefly investigated a computer server tied to Donald Trump's businesses near the end of the election but has not gathered evidence of election tampering to date that would warrant criminal charges against any of the president’s associates, Circa has learned." FBI probe of Donald Trump and Russia during election yielded no evidence of crimes
Get that???
"....the [Obama] FBI ... briefly investigated a computer server tied to Donald Trump's businesses near the end of the election..."
2. sur·veil
sərˈvāl/
verb
past tense: surveilled; past participle: surveilled
keep (a person or place) under surveillance.
as in "he deployed FBI agents to surveil the offices of those companies"
Trump was correct with respect to his being surveilled by the Obama administration.
3. . Nunes has said he has seen proof that the Obama White House surveilled the incoming administration—on subjects that had nothing to do with Russia—and that it further unmasked (identified by name) transition officials. This goes far beyond a mere scandal. It’s a potential crime.
4. We’ve known since early February that a call by former national security adviser Mike Flynn to the Russian ambassador was monitored by U.S. intelligence. There’s nothing improper in tapping foreign officials. But it was improper that Mr. Flynn’s name was revealed and leaked to the press, along with the substance of his conversation. The media nonetheless excused all this by claiming one piece of Mr. Flynn’s conversation... was relevant to the continuing investigation into Trump-Russia ties.
... Nunes’s own intelligence sources informed him that documents showed further collection of information about, and unmasking of, Trump transition officials.
Here are the relevant details:
First, there were dozens of documents with information about Trump officials.
Second, the information these documents contained was not related to Russia.
Third, ... they were written in ways that made clear which Trump officials were being discussed.
Fourth, in at least one instance, a Trump official other than Mr. Flynn was outright unmasked.
Finally, these documents were circulated at the highest levels of government.
To sum up, Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration." What Devin Nunes Knows
Game, Set, Match.
No, the Obama team was not "spying" on Trump targets. They were (legally) spying on targets that were talking with the Trump team.
Which should actually be the REAL story: People who were legitimate targets of a warrant (meaning there was suspected wrongdoing by these targets) were thick as thieves with the Trump transition.
But keep focusing on the weeds to deflect from your criminal president.
Was the so-called 'incidental espionage' of Trump officials related to the Russian investigation?
Susan Rice: what did she do, and when did she do it???
"Intelligence sources said the logs discovered by National Security Council staff suggested Rice’s interest in the NSA materials, some of which included unmasked Americans' identities, appeared to begin last July around the time Trump secured the GOP nomination and accelerated after Trump’s election in November launched a transition that continued through January.
The intelligence reports included some intercepts of Americans talking to foreigners and many more involving foreign leaders talking about the future president, his campaign associates or his transition, the sources said. Most if not all had nothing to do with the Russian election interference scandal, the sources said, speaking only on condition of anonymity given the sensitive nature of the materials.
.... names were sometimes unmasked at the request of Rice...."
White House logs indicate Susan Rice consumed unmasked intel on Trump associates
"Unmasking" was her prerogative, and has been done by countless prior administrations.
It's not like revealing a CIA agent or something. Only republicans pull bullshit like that.
It certainly is not, except for the two provisos that I noted.
1. Is there a need to know the name of the citizen to understand the contest of the monitored intell.
2. If the citizen is involved in illegal activity.
Political espionage is illegal...but you Fascists ignore the law, don't you.
Not as simple as you are, but simple enough to provide the proof:
1. "The FBI investigated a Trump server in its Russia probe, but no charges are expected by John Solomon and Sara Carter
The months-long [Obama] FBI counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential campaign briefly investigated a computer server tied to Donald Trump's businesses near the end of the election but has not gathered evidence of election tampering to date that would warrant criminal charges against any of the president’s associates, Circa has learned." FBI probe of Donald Trump and Russia during election yielded no evidence of crimes
Get that???
Game, Set, Match.
It is wrong. It was incidental collection, since the target was from a FISA warrant. And the Trump associates were cauight talking to people under FISA surveilance. And the NatSecAdv needed to know who the bad guys were talking to, which is why their names were unmasked.Is this wrong or right?
...it was not 'incidental collection of intelligence'....it was purely political spying by Obamunists.
Not as simple as you are, but simple enough to provide the proof:
1. "The FBI investigated a Trump server in its Russia probe, but no charges are expected by John Solomon and Sara Carter
The months-long [Obama] FBI counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential campaign briefly investigated a computer server tied to Donald Trump's businesses near the end of the election but has not gathered evidence of election tampering to date that would warrant criminal charges against any of the president’s associates, Circa has learned." FBI probe of Donald Trump and Russia during election yielded no evidence of crimes
Get that???
Game, Set, Match.
A swing and a miss.
The Trump server wasn't in Trump Tower, which is where Trump claimed the surveilence was being done, and on top of that, being done on his phones, not the server.
Trump has an approval rating in the toilet, his allegation against Obama has been proven to be a lie, a judge is letting an incitement of violence lawsuit against him move forward, he's under FBI investigation, and he hasn't been able to pass anything other than an executive order (and not even that when the courts get involved) for his agenda.
His administration is fast becoming the greatest failure of the modern era. Sweating?
Yah, did that FISA warrant 'INCIDENTALLY" covered calls with Mexico, Thailand, and Australia? Did that cover Trump's Tax Returns too?.
I see we're supposed to forget all about yesterday's news and get back on the nothing you have on a Russia connection.Trump throw's out the wildest shit without proof then demands that everyone muses on what if it did happen and what it would mean.
Instead of searching for his red herrings and asking what they mean if it's real how about the news refuses to cover any of it until Trump acts to prove the allegations?
Sooo.....you want to hide behind where the surveillance took place?.
Trump throw's out the wildest shit without proof then demands that everyone muses on what if it did happen and what it would mean.
Instead of searching for his red herrings and asking what they mean if it's real how about the news refuses to cover any of it until Trump acts to prove the allegations?
Sooo.....you want to hide behind where the surveillance took place?.
It's called reality. Trump claimed Obama wiretaped his phones in Trump Tower. Which as has come out, is completely false. There were no court ordered, or non-court ordered wiretaps on Trump Tower. The orange clown, got that completey wrong.
More proof of how easily duped the Trumpettes really are.Does she realize she has committed a felony and is now risking jail time?
Susan Rice Sought Names of Trump Associates in Intel
White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.
The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."...
The National Security Council's senior director for intelligence, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was conducting the review, according to two U.S. officials who spoke with Bloomberg View on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. In February Cohen-Watnick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask U.S. persons in intelligence reports that related to Trump transition activities. He brought this to the attention of the White House General Counsel's office, who reviewed more of Rice's requests and instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy.
The intelligence reports were summaries of monitored conversations -- primarily between foreign officials discussing the Trump transition, but also in some cases direct contact between members of the Trump team and monitored foreign officials. One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration.
Let's review.
Our intelligence Agencies are spying on the Russians.
They overhear a conversation between an American & these Russians in which a discussion of using Russian hackers to help Trump win the Presidency.
Upon learning of this, the NSA (Rice) is concerned & wants to learn who is doing this.
Whiners & dumbfucks think that is a crime or plot. Whiners don't giv a shit that their orange buddy won because the Russians helped him.
They don't care that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.
'Just like the writer of thois thrreasd, rthey only care that Trumpo won & they don't give a shit about this country.
You people are disgusting maggots & should all be shot for treason.
Not as simple as you are, but simple enough to provide the proof:
1. "The FBI investigated a Trump server in its Russia probe, but no charges are expected by John Solomon and Sara Carter
The months-long [Obama] FBI counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential campaign briefly investigated a computer server tied to Donald Trump's businesses near the end of the election but has not gathered evidence of election tampering to date that would warrant criminal charges against any of the president’s associates, Circa has learned." FBI probe of Donald Trump and Russia during election yielded no evidence of crimes
Get that???
Game, Set, Match.
A swing and a miss.
The Trump server wasn't in Trump Tower, which is where Trump claimed the surveilence was being done, and on top of that, being done on his phones, not the server.
1. "Trump Administration Strips Funding For Illegal Aliens, Reallocates Money to Victims of Their Crimes" Trump Administration Strips Funding For Illegal Aliens, Reallocates Money to Victims of Their CrimesTrump has an approval rating in the toilet, his allegation against Obama has been proven to be a lie, a judge is letting an incitement of violence lawsuit against him move forward, he's under FBI investigation, and he hasn't been able to pass anything other than an executive order (and not even that when the courts get involved) for his agenda.
His administration is fast becoming the greatest failure of the modern era. Sweating?
Yet they claim that Trump has accomplished more in his first months, than Obama did in 8 years, These clowns certainly cling to the orange huckster.
