BREAKING! Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn’s Sentencing

[Faun]

I never claimed I was privy to anything. Read the thread to see what I have written previously then, when you are up to speed you can ask an intelligent question.

i read the thread & i know you said you are speculating. what you are doing is trying to cast doubt on our intel agencies just like a good trump mook does. maybe you should audition for fox news! man oh man you seem a little desperate.

No, I am casting doubt on a very few top level bureaucrats who appear to have been corrupted. The rank and file of the FBI are disgusted by the actions of those top level managers.

exactly who are corrupted & how have they been corrupted?

Mcabes wife received 700,000 for her failed election from one of hillary's oldest and dearest friends. The woman was a political novice, yet received tons of support from the leading Democrat in the State. Mccabe was leading the hillary email "investigation" which he slow walked to the consternation of the agents doing the leg work, and only recused himself from the "investigation" one week before the election.

Had that been a fbi boss doing that for a repub you would have been screaming to high heaven about corruption and the evil repubs.

McCabe's wife is a U.S. citizen and thus has the freedom to be a member of whatever party she wants... and she is also allowed to accept campaign donations from whomever she wants...

McCabe himself is a Republican.

So's Rosenstein and so is Mueller. These idiots are actually circling the wagon for Trump.

 

[nat4900]

No one other than Trump has claimed there was a tap on Trump Tower.

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Yeah, but when you join a cult, the word of the cult leader is MORE than enough.

 

[nat4900]

Not if the evidence was obtained illegally. That's the whole point.

Well, play out that little scenario........

Does THAT mean that Trump, like other criminals, "gets off" on a technicality.....LOL

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Ah haaaa! What do we have here? I think reality has set in and Mueller is now realizing what a shit storm he's gotten himself into. Mark my words, Flynn is going to get his indictment tossed due to the corrupt FISA Warrant. Mueller realizes that now.


JUST IN=> Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn's Sentencing

I think you're a little behind the times. Flynn is well past the "indictment" phase - he's already plead guilty.

That's why they're talking about sentencing.

Problem is if the whole investigation was tainted....everything gets thrown out.
The point I made a couple of months ago was the FBI went to the FISA court and committed perjury to get a warrant.

It's not quite that simple, actually.

If the charges against Flynn was based on illegally obtained evidence, he could appeal his guilty plea, but only if his lawyers had previously filed motions to suppress said evidence which were denied. I'm not aware of Flynn's lawyers challenging the evidence against him, but it's possible that it happened.

As for your fantasies of "perjury" to get the warrant - what are you basing that on, other than desire?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Ah haaaa! What do we have here? I think reality has set in and Mueller is now realizing what a shit storm he's gotten himself into. Mark my words, Flynn is going to get his indictment tossed due to the corrupt FISA Warrant that was used to spy on him. Mueller realizes that now.


JUST IN=> Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn's Sentencing

Flynn's plea bargain is now facing a collapse and false accusation of criminal conduct by Mueller's team is being pursued. The plea bargain process is not seen as a conviction until sentencing is completed. Mueller is leaving himself a way out from being criminally prosecuted himself... This is getting good now..

 

[JimH52]

Why have I not found this story anywhere else? Fake Link?

 

[cnm]

The request to postpone sentencing is so Flynn's testimony can be rewarded appropriately, Shirley?

 

[JimH52]

He lied to the FBI. How can that evidence be tainted. He was being interviewed by the F B I. It was his reprehensibility to bring a lawyer.

 

[Lewdog]

Why have I not found this story anywhere else? Fake Link?

It's because it is from a site that is known for reporting total lies.

 

[eddiew37]

No one other than Trump has claimed there was a tap on Trump Tower.

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Yeah, but when you join a cult, the word of the cult leader is MORE than enough.

trump is like manson ,,,,leads a cult that believes all the bs he spews

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Breaking News Update!

FBI Makes Last Chance Power Play to Keep FISA Memo Under Wraps – True Pundit

 

[JimH52]

No one other than Trump has claimed there was a tap on Trump Tower.

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Yeah, but when you join a cult, the word of the cult leader is MORE than enough.

trump is like manson ,,,,leads a cult that believes all the bs he spews

Thats it! He is an Orange Manson!

 

[Faun]

The obama admin was releasing the names of Americans "caught" up in the various surveillance programs they had going. That is "unmasking".

Ok, so we are using the same definition of "unmasking".

I still don't understand what you mean, in the context of these sentences, though:

The unmasking that was going on by the obama admin tells me they had a tap going on trump tower.

How did the obama admin get the information that allowed them to do the unmasking?

Part of the unmasking had to do with information provided by foreign governments who were doing their own surveillance of the Russians.

Care to provide a link to that. I haven't heard one bit of that.

LOL

You haven't heard about an "illegal warrant" used on Flynn either -- that didn't interfere with your claims about an "illegal warrant" you know nothing about which is not being reported about by anyone.

And you're still stuck on square one bleating about that which you know nothing about.

LOLOL

Cries the idiot who has zero knowledge of the illegally obtained warrant used on Flynn because it's actually alledged to have been used on Page, not Flynn.

 

[cnm]

No one other than Trump has claimed there was a tap on Trump Tower.

Yeah, but when you join a cult, the word of the cult leader is MORE than enough.

trump is like manson ,,,,leads a cult that believes all the bs he spews

Well, needs to pay lip service to it to achieve their policy goals, be fair.

 

[Faun]

I think you're a little behind the times. Flynn is well past the "indictment" phase - he's already plead guilty.

That's why they're talking about sentencing.

Guilty pleas, obtained via illegally gotten evidence, are Vacated not infrequently.

Oh, oh! Do I smell an acquittal on the horizon? How does that work?

Not necessarily, but the possibility exists. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing how mueller got the evidence he used against flynn, but if it is tainted then flynn walks. Sadly so to will manafort, who really is a scumbag.

Ah haaaa! What do we have here? I think reality has set in and Mueller is now realizing what a shit storm he's gotten himself into. Mark my words, Flynn is going to get his indictment tossed due to the corrupt FISA Warrant. Mueller realizes that now.


JUST IN=> Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn's Sentencing

I think you're a little behind the times. Flynn is well past the "indictment" phase - he's already plead guilty.

That's why they're talking about sentencing.

Guilty pleas, obtained via illegally gotten evidence, are Vacated not infrequently.

no. a conviction based on illegally gotten evidence (which Flynn's wasn't despite rightwing fantasies) is reversible if they didn't know at the time of the trial thereby waiving the defect by not objecting.

with a plea there is a small chance pre-sentencing but generally only if the judge rejects the plea deal

and let's not forget that mueller held back state charges that wouldn't be barred by double jeopardy. he'd go to jail.

Not if the evidence was obtained illegally. That's the whole point.

Still waiting for you to describe what was illegal about your purported warrant to spy on Flynn -- which doesn't exist outside your mind.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Breaking Update!

Muellers Request to postpone the sentencing.

Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of General Mike Flynn Sentencing…

 

[Faun]

Ah haaaa! What do we have here? I think reality has set in and Mueller is now realizing what a shit storm he's gotten himself into. Mark my words, Flynn is going to get his indictment tossed due to the corrupt FISA Warrant that was used to spy on him. Mueller realizes that now.


JUST IN=> Robert Mueller Requests Postponement of Gen. Michael Flynn's Sentencing

Flynn's plea bargain is now facing a collapse and false accusation of criminal conduct by Mueller's team is being pursued. The plea bargain process is not seen as a conviction until sentencing is completed. Mueller is leaving himself a way out from being criminally prosecuted himself... This is getting good now..

Oh? What does Mueller have to do with Flynn lying to federal investigators?

 

[Coyote]

What evidence involved in Flynn's lying to the FBI was obtained illegally?

If half of what has been reported is true, then the info they used against flynn was most likely obtained via the illegal FISA warrant. If that is indeed factual, flynn walks.

Bet Muller would hang him self if that happened. Getting such a high profile case tossed in the can in front of the whole world, literally.

mueller has screwed up major cases before. I talked with the US Attorney out here one time and was told that once mueller gets an idea in his head he simply won't let it go no matter what evidence is presented to refute it. He doesn't seem to learn, but his ego seems to be pretty strong. Strong enough to handle the denigration that comes with the bad cases he's pursued.

I don’t know, Trump has a way of unhinging people. A loss like this to Trump may be to much for that ego.

Did you hear how many times Trump referred to "WE" and "OUR" (Close to 300) while Obama seldom used "WE" or "OUR"....only "I" and "Me." That is an over extended ego. He's trying to convince the listeners he is as great as he thinks he is.

Trump has an ego (all politicians do) but it doesn't get in the way for love of country. He isn't working for himself. He doesn't have to. He's working for the safety and prosperity of the citizens.

Actually it's an urban legend that Obama used "I" or "Me" any more than any other president. Or just Obama Derangement Syndrome. Trump and Obama had almost identical usage in their inaugral address'. Trump is all about Trump.

Self-references in Obama’s inaugural speeches.


In 2009, Obama used the word “I” 3 times during his speech, and never used “me,” “I’ve” or “I’m.” In 2013, Obama used the word “I” twice, and never used “me,” “I’ve” or “I’m.” His “we” count in both speeches was more than sixty.


A comparison of the inaugural addresses delivered by both Obama and Trump shows the number of self-references was nearly identical.​

 

[Billy_Bob]

Breaking News Reminder!


It was Strzok that interviewed Flynn without councel to assist him.

The judge that took the plea recused himself and if text messages show Flynn was set up could that be the reason for delay

BINGO....

Flynn's attorneys are stating that the FISA warrant was obtained illegally and thus information used to accuse him was illegally obtained. Everything they found with that information is now illegally obtained. They also denied his right to counsel.

Lots of awe shits are coming out...

 

[eddiew37]

No one other than Trump has claimed there was a tap on Trump Tower.

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Yeah, but when you join a cult, the word of the cult leader is MORE than enough.

trump is like manson ,,,,leads a cult that believes all the bs he spews

Thats it! He is an Orange Manson!

And Russian spies allowed to enter the US and meet with trump officials and we find out by Kremlin telling us??