Faun
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Negative.
He wasn't even using much force.
I've been choked out.
This is how long it takes...
The guy was choked to death. Clearly, enough force was used to kill him. Also seen on that video... the passengers had all left except for the few who wanted to remain to either restrain Neely or to watch. Whatever threat Neely may have been to other passengers was no longer a threat. Self defense only allows action to be taken to stop the threat. Penny persisted even after that point.