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My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?Its a discussion between two sides who are talking different languages.
The "remainers" are generally younger, better educated and more sophisticated. They see opportunities in Europe and welcome them.
The "outers" are generally older,easily influenced and averse to change.They dont like hearing foreign languages in the street and believe that the EU is slowly taking over the Britain they know and love.
"Remainers" dont see immigration as a big deal but "outers" have little interest in any other issue.
Whereas there are others who see immigration as an issue, want the EU to change, but don't see leaving as the solution to the problem.
Immigration, as an EU issue, won't change. The EU regards the free movement of EU citizens between Member States as sacrosanct ... a 'foundling principle'. Not even the massive influx of refugees from Syria (etc) has caused the EU to turn away from such a principle. Anyone believing this can become an issue where the EU as a whole will somehow be persuaded to change its policy on, are deluding themselves. The only alternative to accepting the status quo IS to leave ... simple fact ... !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?Immigration, as an EU issue, won't change. The EU regards the free movement of EU citizens between Member States as sacrosanct ... a 'foundling principle'. Not even the massive influx of refugees from Syria (etc) has caused the EU to turn away from such a principle. Anyone believing this can become an issue where the EU as a whole will somehow be persuaded to change its policy on, are deluding themselves. The only alternative to accepting the status quo IS to leave ... simple fact ... !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
Its a discussion between two sides who are talking different languages.
The "remainers" are generally younger, better educated and more sophisticated. They see opportunities in Europe and welcome them.
The "outers" are generally older,easily influenced and averse to change.They dont like hearing foreign languages in the street and believe that the EU is slowly taking over the Britain they know and love.
"Remainers" dont see immigration as a big deal but "outers" have little interest in any other issue.
Whereas there are others who see immigration as an issue, want the EU to change, but don't see leaving as the solution to the problem.
Immigration, as an EU issue, won't change. The EU regards the free movement of EU citizens between Member States as sacrosanct ... a 'foundling principle'. Not even the massive influx of refugees from Syria (etc) has caused the EU to turn away from such a principle. Anyone believing this can become an issue where the EU as a whole will somehow be persuaded to change its policy on, are deluding themselves. The only alternative to accepting the status quo IS to leave ... simple fact ... !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
I'm sorry, where did the EU stop the UK from making its own welfare laws?
What you're talking about is equality of the law among EU citizens. I'm talking about keeping the law equal but making sure those people who haven't worked in the UK for enough time simply don't get benefits, regardless of whether they're British or not. But then I wrote this before, did you read it?
I didn't say the UK would be "forced" into the Schengen Zone. What I said was that the Brexit people used to speak about the "Norway Option", which would mean joining the Schengen Zone, and also that in order to get trading done easier, as happens now being in the EU, the UK might have to seriously consider joining Schengen.
The Brexit people will say things like "but, we'll just do a deal with the EU and everything will be the same" without realizing that such a deal might have to include joining Schengen. Without it the UK might lose trade and be worse off than staying in the EU.
I'm not denying that the EU causes problems to the UK. I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to leave. What I'm saying is there is a balance. Leaving is not beneficial to the UK, staying is not beneficial to the UK, so which one do you choose?
Apparently the UK was "stronger together", remember that from the Scottish Referendum, which many of the Brexit people opposed Scotland leaving? Now we're not "stronger together". Well which is it?
Whereas there are others who see immigration as an issue, want the EU to change, but don't see leaving as the solution to the problem.
Immigration, as an EU issue, won't change. The EU regards the free movement of EU citizens between Member States as sacrosanct ... a 'foundling principle'. Not even the massive influx of refugees from Syria (etc) has caused the EU to turn away from such a principle. Anyone believing this can become an issue where the EU as a whole will somehow be persuaded to change its policy on, are deluding themselves. The only alternative to accepting the status quo IS to leave ... simple fact ... !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
I'm sorry, where did the EU stop the UK from making its own welfare laws?
What you're talking about is equality of the law among EU citizens. I'm talking about keeping the law equal but making sure those people who haven't worked in the UK for enough time simply don't get benefits, regardless of whether they're British or not. But then I wrote this before, did you read it?
I didn't say the UK would be "forced" into the Schengen Zone. What I said was that the Brexit people used to speak about the "Norway Option", which would mean joining the Schengen Zone, and also that in order to get trading done easier, as happens now being in the EU, the UK might have to seriously consider joining Schengen.
The Brexit people will say things like "but, we'll just do a deal with the EU and everything will be the same" without realizing that such a deal might have to include joining Schengen. Without it the UK might lose trade and be worse off than staying in the EU.
I'm not denying that the EU causes problems to the UK. I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to leave. What I'm saying is there is a balance. Leaving is not beneficial to the UK, staying is not beneficial to the UK, so which one do you choose?
Apparently the UK was "stronger together", remember that from the Scottish Referendum, which many of the Brexit people opposed Scotland leaving? Now we're not "stronger together". Well which is it?
When it stopped the UK from bringing in the same legislation as Germany and France have stopping migrants from claiming welfare until they had paid into the system.
David Cameron's climbdown on EU benefits.
The latest polls show that 46% believe that the UK would be better off out of the EU, while 43% think they will be better staying. What I would say is which ever side is proven wrong should pay the shortfall accrued. So if the stay camp wins and we end up paying more as a result ( including housing costs, welfare, health and education increases due to the migrants ) they should have the loss apportioned to their ability to pay taken from their salaries/welfare payments. If the out camp wins and it is proven that this has cost the people more the same rules will be applied.
But everything over and above the norm will be tallied, including clean up costs, policing and increased social services spending.
But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
Immigration, as an EU issue, won't change. The EU regards the free movement of EU citizens between Member States as sacrosanct ... a 'foundling principle'. Not even the massive influx of refugees from Syria (etc) has caused the EU to turn away from such a principle. Anyone believing this can become an issue where the EU as a whole will somehow be persuaded to change its policy on, are deluding themselves. The only alternative to accepting the status quo IS to leave ... simple fact ... !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
I'm sorry, where did the EU stop the UK from making its own welfare laws?
What you're talking about is equality of the law among EU citizens. I'm talking about keeping the law equal but making sure those people who haven't worked in the UK for enough time simply don't get benefits, regardless of whether they're British or not. But then I wrote this before, did you read it?
I didn't say the UK would be "forced" into the Schengen Zone. What I said was that the Brexit people used to speak about the "Norway Option", which would mean joining the Schengen Zone, and also that in order to get trading done easier, as happens now being in the EU, the UK might have to seriously consider joining Schengen.
The Brexit people will say things like "but, we'll just do a deal with the EU and everything will be the same" without realizing that such a deal might have to include joining Schengen. Without it the UK might lose trade and be worse off than staying in the EU.
I'm not denying that the EU causes problems to the UK. I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to leave. What I'm saying is there is a balance. Leaving is not beneficial to the UK, staying is not beneficial to the UK, so which one do you choose?
Apparently the UK was "stronger together", remember that from the Scottish Referendum, which many of the Brexit people opposed Scotland leaving? Now we're not "stronger together". Well which is it?
When it stopped the UK from bringing in the same legislation as Germany and France have stopping migrants from claiming welfare until they had paid into the system.
David Cameron's climbdown on EU benefits.
The latest polls show that 46% believe that the UK would be better off out of the EU, while 43% think they will be better staying. What I would say is which ever side is proven wrong should pay the shortfall accrued. So if the stay camp wins and we end up paying more as a result ( including housing costs, welfare, health and education increases due to the migrants ) they should have the loss apportioned to their ability to pay taken from their salaries/welfare payments. If the out camp wins and it is proven that this has cost the people more the same rules will be applied.
But everything over and above the norm will be tallied, including clean up costs, policing and increased social services spending.
And again, it didn't happen because it was a duel system. Had he said that ALL PEOPLE regardless would have to wait four years, then there wouldn't have been a problem.
Latest polls say this and that, I could probably find a latest poll that says something different.
If the UK stays in, how will you know the difference from how much the UK would pay if it had left? That's just a silly idea.
Like I said, all it takes is for UK politicians to figure things out. The problem is, and always has been, that in the EU or out of the EU, you're still run by politicians.
But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
So where are these 500,000 people then ?
You are a foul individual. Absolutely disgusting.But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
So where are these 500,000 people then ?
Some sent back, some found it was not to their liking and went elsewhere but over 100,000 are left living rough, begging and thieving while claiming welfare. All you have to do is look and you will see them, get too close and you will smell them before you see them as they use anywhere there are bushes as toilets including people gardens.
You are a foul individual. Absolutely disgusting.But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
So where are these 500,000 people then ?
Some sent back, some found it was not to their liking and went elsewhere but over 100,000 are left living rough, begging and thieving while claiming welfare. All you have to do is look and you will see them, get too close and you will smell them before you see them as they use anywhere there are bushes as toilets including people gardens.
But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?Immigration, as an EU issue, won't change. The EU regards the free movement of EU citizens between Member States as sacrosanct ... a 'foundling principle'. Not even the massive influx of refugees from Syria (etc) has caused the EU to turn away from such a principle. Anyone believing this can become an issue where the EU as a whole will somehow be persuaded to change its policy on, are deluding themselves. The only alternative to accepting the status quo IS to leave ... simple fact ... !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
I am just judging him by his opinions.He is sick.You are a foul individual. Absolutely disgusting.But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
So where are these 500,000 people then ?
Some sent back, some found it was not to their liking and went elsewhere but over 100,000 are left living rough, begging and thieving while claiming welfare. All you have to do is look and you will see them, get too close and you will smell them before you see them as they use anywhere there are bushes as toilets including people gardens.
Do you know him personally?
He looks like anonymous pixels on a screen to me.
You just need to puree the elephant and then squirt it through. Thats the easiest way.But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.My prospective UKIP councillor told me that we could expect 5 million Bulgarian beggars here on January 1rst. I nodded at the old fool before telling him to fuck off my land.Why do your type feel the need to lie so much ?The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
Is it because you have no case ?
500,000 Romanians living in a park ? Why not just say 5000 ? You undermine your racism by making such bizarre claims.
You really are a lying piece of shit.
Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
No - in theory, you could not pass an elephant through the eye of a needle. But getting that 500,000 turn up here, was a definite possibility. You'e no way at all of showing me it was an impossibility. Have you ? If you have, why haven't you offered it yet ?
In an earlier post, I posted a copy of a comparison table, showing pros and cons of Brexit. Check it out. Show me how the pro-Brexit case is full of lies and exaggerations !!
The problem here is how you look at things. People are annoyed that foreigners come in. 2/3rds of those foreigners going in aren't EU citizens and don't have that right in the first place. It's the UK GOVERNMENT that lets them in. Somehow those who want to leave the EU think it will get better if the UK leaves the EU, how they think this I have no idea.
From the point of view of EU citizens going in, the issues aren't that difficult, except for politicians of course.
Take welfare payments and unemployment payments and all that stuff. If there were a proper system in place, then EU citizens wouldn't be able to just enter the UK and take benefits, they'd be a time you'd have to work in the country before you were eligible, and not just for non-UK citizens, but for UK citizens too, because there are those on the take too who perhaps shouldn't be. A good system will make it work, and freedom of movement wouldn't be so much of a problem.
As for Syrian refugees, I think the EU needs to have a serious think about how to deal with such issues in the first place, rather than being reactionary.
What the EU needs is strong leadership in the anti-Federalist mold. Get all those who are opposed to a Federal Europe, opposed to this that and the other, to come together and to fight for that. At present you have those who want a federal Europe being strong, and those against being weak ass mother feckers.
The EU will still be there. The UK will still have to cope with the EU. The impact of the EU will be so strong if the EU goes Federal. The laws will still be made in Westminster to conform to the EU, because it'd be easier for the country to do so.
If the UK wants to deal effectively with the EU, then it'll end up having to join the Schengen Agreement. It's the Brexit people who talk about the "Norway Option", did no one tell them Norway is in the Schengen Zone? D'oh.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
I'm sorry, where did the EU stop the UK from making its own welfare laws?
What you're talking about is equality of the law among EU citizens. I'm talking about keeping the law equal but making sure those people who haven't worked in the UK for enough time simply don't get benefits, regardless of whether they're British or not. But then I wrote this before, did you read it?
I didn't say the UK would be "forced" into the Schengen Zone. What I said was that the Brexit people used to speak about the "Norway Option", which would mean joining the Schengen Zone, and also that in order to get trading done easier, as happens now being in the EU, the UK might have to seriously consider joining Schengen.
The Brexit people will say things like "but, we'll just do a deal with the EU and everything will be the same" without realizing that such a deal might have to include joining Schengen. Without it the UK might lose trade and be worse off than staying in the EU.
I'm not denying that the EU causes problems to the UK. I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to leave. What I'm saying is there is a balance. Leaving is not beneficial to the UK, staying is not beneficial to the UK, so which one do you choose?
Apparently the UK was "stronger together", remember that from the Scottish Referendum, which many of the Brexit people opposed Scotland leaving? Now we're not "stronger together". Well which is it?
When it stopped the UK from bringing in the same legislation as Germany and France have stopping migrants from claiming welfare until they had paid into the system.
David Cameron's climbdown on EU benefits.
The latest polls show that 46% believe that the UK would be better off out of the EU, while 43% think they will be better staying. What I would say is which ever side is proven wrong should pay the shortfall accrued. So if the stay camp wins and we end up paying more as a result ( including housing costs, welfare, health and education increases due to the migrants ) they should have the loss apportioned to their ability to pay taken from their salaries/welfare payments. If the out camp wins and it is proven that this has cost the people more the same rules will be applied.
But everything over and above the norm will be tallied, including clean up costs, policing and increased social services spending.
And again, it didn't happen because it was a duel system. Had he said that ALL PEOPLE regardless would have to wait four years, then there wouldn't have been a problem.
Latest polls say this and that, I could probably find a latest poll that says something different.
If the UK stays in, how will you know the difference from how much the UK would pay if it had left? That's just a silly idea.
Like I said, all it takes is for UK politicians to figure things out. The problem is, and always has been, that in the EU or out of the EU, you're still run by politicians.
And that was it the rule applied to all non British migrants. Why should a migrant come here with the sole intention of claiming from our welfare budget and have no intention to pay anything back in
Very easy just look at the sums for the other nations and work it out. Say if Germany paid £10 trillion this year and the UK paid £8 trillion then we would have paid 80% of what Germany pays. A simple enough equation. Same for the fines imposed and the returns.
The UK public have figured it out already and have shown that we are being screwed by the EU because the left handed everything to them on a plate.
You are a foul individual. Absolutely disgusting.But that is exactly the point of the brexit case. It is built on lies and exaggerated nonsense.Characters like this create a toxic forum where real issues can not be discussed.Maybe those 500,000 Romanians wasn't actually a 'true' figure ... in that it didn't happen. Nonetheless, I invite you to prove to me that there was no way at all it COULDN'T have happened. By what means would such an influx ever have been prevented ? Kindly prove that it was preventable !!
To address the further point you make - it didnt happen. It never was going to happen. In theory I could pass an elephant through the eye of a needle but thats not going to happen either.
And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
So where are these 500,000 people then ?
Some sent back, some found it was not to their liking and went elsewhere but over 100,000 are left living rough, begging and thieving while claiming welfare. All you have to do is look and you will see them, get too close and you will smell them before you see them as they use anywhere there are bushes as toilets including people gardens.
The only way the stupid little englanders will learn is if they have to buy a visa to go to benidorm.
That is what the UK government wanted to bring in, but because the looney lefties signed away our rights to set our own welfare laws the E.U. courts stopped it from going ahead. This meant that we had to accept 500,000 unemployable Romanians invading the UK and camping out in parks while waiting for a fully furnished house, latest OLED T.V., XBOX, PC, cell phones and then welfare as high as £20k a year.
If we leave the E.U. the whole sorry affair will collapse under unpaid debts and failing economies. Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined did not pay in half of what the UK pays in, and then we are fined the same amount for infringement of laws we never knew existed.
We wont be forced into the Schengen zone and the E.U. knows this, we will negotiate fair trade deals and be back to a level playing field again.
Just one example of E.U. legislation that is unfair to UK business. Any logistics company from Europe can use UK roads free of charge while our own logistics pay taxes to drive on the road and on the fuel used. This puts up the price to the consumer that goes straight into the European logistics companies profits. So the current government introduced a simple payment to foreign hauliers of £300 a week or £10k a year for every HGV ( comparable to UK business outlay after tax relief ). The E.U. has made this illegal as the European hauliers are finding it hard to pay the sums.
I'm sorry, where did the EU stop the UK from making its own welfare laws?
What you're talking about is equality of the law among EU citizens. I'm talking about keeping the law equal but making sure those people who haven't worked in the UK for enough time simply don't get benefits, regardless of whether they're British or not. But then I wrote this before, did you read it?
I didn't say the UK would be "forced" into the Schengen Zone. What I said was that the Brexit people used to speak about the "Norway Option", which would mean joining the Schengen Zone, and also that in order to get trading done easier, as happens now being in the EU, the UK might have to seriously consider joining Schengen.
The Brexit people will say things like "but, we'll just do a deal with the EU and everything will be the same" without realizing that such a deal might have to include joining Schengen. Without it the UK might lose trade and be worse off than staying in the EU.
I'm not denying that the EU causes problems to the UK. I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to leave. What I'm saying is there is a balance. Leaving is not beneficial to the UK, staying is not beneficial to the UK, so which one do you choose?
Apparently the UK was "stronger together", remember that from the Scottish Referendum, which many of the Brexit people opposed Scotland leaving? Now we're not "stronger together". Well which is it?
When it stopped the UK from bringing in the same legislation as Germany and France have stopping migrants from claiming welfare until they had paid into the system.
David Cameron's climbdown on EU benefits.
The latest polls show that 46% believe that the UK would be better off out of the EU, while 43% think they will be better staying. What I would say is which ever side is proven wrong should pay the shortfall accrued. So if the stay camp wins and we end up paying more as a result ( including housing costs, welfare, health and education increases due to the migrants ) they should have the loss apportioned to their ability to pay taken from their salaries/welfare payments. If the out camp wins and it is proven that this has cost the people more the same rules will be applied.
But everything over and above the norm will be tallied, including clean up costs, policing and increased social services spending.
And again, it didn't happen because it was a duel system. Had he said that ALL PEOPLE regardless would have to wait four years, then there wouldn't have been a problem.
Latest polls say this and that, I could probably find a latest poll that says something different.
If the UK stays in, how will you know the difference from how much the UK would pay if it had left? That's just a silly idea.
Like I said, all it takes is for UK politicians to figure things out. The problem is, and always has been, that in the EU or out of the EU, you're still run by politicians.
And that was it the rule applied to all non British migrants. Why should a migrant come here with the sole intention of claiming from our welfare budget and have no intention to pay anything back in
Very easy just look at the sums for the other nations and work it out. Say if Germany paid £10 trillion this year and the UK paid £8 trillion then we would have paid 80% of what Germany pays. A simple enough equation. Same for the fines imposed and the returns.
The UK public have figured it out already and have shown that we are being screwed by the EU because the left handed everything to them on a plate.
Yeah, why should a person go to the UK just to apply for welfare. Same for kids, why should kids leave school and just apply for welfare. Don't you think anyone who is applying for welfare and isn't willing to work should just not be given it, regardless of nationality?
You think it's easy huh? Well.... what you said doesn't work it out.
The UK public have figured what out? Most of them don't have a clue because the facts are not getting out and are being lost in bullshit.
I am just judging him by his opinions.He is sick.You are a foul individual. Absolutely disgusting.And your side of the coin isn't just the same, from the fantasy £1000 per person extra we will need to pay by 2020, that we will need to pay anyway because of rising prices and wages.
By the way it did happen
Just one of the many camps
Police Round On Roma Gypsies Camped In London's West End (PICTURES)
Then a few days later
Eastern Europeans still sleeping rough in Marble Arch
How about this, and read the numbers
Flood of immigrants make 'township ghettos' out of Britain's seasides
So where are these 500,000 people then ?
Some sent back, some found it was not to their liking and went elsewhere but over 100,000 are left living rough, begging and thieving while claiming welfare. All you have to do is look and you will see them, get too close and you will smell them before you see them as they use anywhere there are bushes as toilets including people gardens.
Do you know him personally?
He looks like anonymous pixels on a screen to me.
The brexit loving little englanders are stupid. They are so stupid, that they bitch about the European Union, but they can't even begin to find new markets for half of all British products, which now go to the European Union but will be trash the day they do their brexit. What happens to a country that gets taken over by mindless moronic thugs?
