Slade3200
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- Jan 13, 2016
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Warren and Pete are great idea people but neither will win a national election. They are gaining in Iowa but I don’t think that matters much, Biden still leads nationally.Biden is the best bet. Maybe somebody new comes along. But Biden is fine. He would bring stability, he just needs to not play trumps gamesThey have to. We are far to divided in this country. We need the people to speak upI am far from a Trump supporter, however I need to call out yet another misstep from the Democrats. I posted about how Obstruction was a losing argument after the Mueller Report was released and now I see them doing it again with the Bribery claim.
I get that Bribery is in the constitution so they want to draw a simple and direct line with their charges for impeachment but what Trump did and what the context of bribery in the constitution is are two different things. By their definition, politicians and all past presidents commit bribery in the course of their foreign affairs. What Trump did was an abuse of office by dealing for personal gain, that should be the focus, not bribery. What the constitution was trying to protect from was politicians being paid to make policy... of course the lines are blurred with all the lobbying that goes on in Washington, a system that I’d happily like to see reformed, but that’s another story.
Best thing for Dems to do is wrap up the hearings. Get all the facts out with as little hyperbole as possible and then not file for impeachment but rather leave it up to the voters in next years election. Trump is as swampy as they come and he cares more about the fight than the future. I think enough people see that and will vote to end the drama and embarrassment. Let’s not make a martyr out of him by driving this impeachment train off a cliff.
I do not know anymore if they can just leave it to the voter...
Trump will lose the Popular Vote while winning the Electoral College again, and that is the sad reality.
Warren is going to lose badly if nominated and Biden is tainted, and Sanders was so 2016, so who else do you have?
Mayor Pete?
Even though I like the guy he has no chance on the big stage and the rest of the field are too weak or came in late.
Impeachment is all they have...
Problem is Biden will debate Trump, so Trump will play his games and Biden will fall into the trap.
It is not guaranteed that Biden will even get the nomination and right now Warren and Mayor Pete are gaining or passing on Biden.
Michael Smerconish had a caller today and talked about Biden work to get that corrupt person fired and pointed out Biden should comment on it and state by doing what he did it brought more pressure on the company his son was working for and a possible investigation.
If he ( Biden ) did this then maybe he can salvage his chances.
In the end if Biden loses the nomination and Trump beat Conviction and Removal then expect four more years of Trump and him being the monster we all fear...
The campaign is going to be nasty, Biden has work to do. To be honest Pete is probably the best equipped to battle but unfortunately our country is not mature enough to elect a gay president. Sad but true.