Zone1 Broad-brush reparations to all blacks is unconstituional

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

We gave reparations to all Japanese Americans who were interred as if they were the same, even if they were too young to have been materially damaged. Even if they went on to college on the “government’s dime”. And no one questioned it.

Lisa et al do not realize that having had the opportunity to go to college does not negate having to live the majority of one's life under the government sanctioned oppression of legal racial discrimination that was Jim Crow.

Imagine how you would feel Lisa if instead of there being an ending to the threat you lived under while you were being stalked/targeted, that you lived under that threat your entire life. The taunting, the threats of violence, never knowing from which direction it may come or if you would escape with your life.

Jim Crow WAS NOT ABOUT INCONVENIENCE as Foxfyre seems to believe.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

[snipped]

To the contrary, it proves that with the right choices [skin color, white of course], abilities, and values, one can overcome bigotry and poverty [by having less obstacles placed in your way to hamper your upward mobility]

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

^^^ example of the nasty and false accusations that have no place in a Zone 1 thread.

What's nasty about what he said?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Is disagreeing with your argument calling you a racist?

According to her it is

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

In places that never had Jim Crow or discriminated against blacks.

But Black people still needed to know which places were safe for them to patronize.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Because I don't believe anyone is owed anything in this case beyond the government fixing the imbalance in it's own laws.

Once that's done it's up to the people themselves to fix their own status.

If you were in your 20s and could work for 20 years earning good pay as a commercial airline pilot but the government wouldn't allow it, would removing the law that says that the country must be racially segregated

1. compensate you for the 20 years of salary you could have earned but was not allowed to?
2. compensate you for having to retire 20 years early due to the mandatory retirement age because you didn't get started until 20 years later
3. compensate you for the loss of interest on savings, equity in a home, retirement
   benefits, etc.
   
   Removing the law without recompense for what one was deprived of, doesn't make one "whole" yet so many of you have the attitude of "well the law has been gone for 60 years, why haven't Black people caught up" like it's not glaringly obvious as to why

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Because the people who committed the acts are long dead.

thus reparation paid by the government, the entity who legalized and sanctioned the acts

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Make your own arguments, please, not some chatbot.

the argument is the same, AI just makes it easier and way faster to convey

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The laws were overturned that created the separate but equal idiocy mandated by Plessey.

That doesn't "fix" anything though, it just makes it "no longer legal to do X, Y & Z".

The 13th amendment freed the slaves but that didn't keep people from refusing to treat them as equal citizens or hell just citizens period, until the ratification of 14th Amendment.

In other words, the mere passage of a law or an amendment of the constitution does not "fix" the harm caused by the fact that the previous laws/acts/amendments existed in the first place.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I'm talking about government mandated DBE requirements in government contracts.

I believe they issued a stop of some sort ever since SCOTUS's last ruling regarding affirmative action in school admissions. I haven't checked it lately and I have no numbers on an alleged negative impact from that sector. It seems like we would have heard something if this was creating a real problem.
What SCOTUS’s Affirmative Action Decision Means for Corporate DEI

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Yes, but they really only meant White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, didn't they?

White Anglo-Saxon land-owning male Protestants

(they were the only ones who could participate in government by voting in the elections)

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

As long as “diversity” is the goal of affirmative action straight white males will be targets of lib discrimination

LOL "Straight" white males?!? When did they become a protected class.

What have you lost to a woman, of any race or are you just blaming women for your own shortcomings?

 

[Mac-7]

No it's genocide of whites

No matter what its not good

 

[Mac-7]

LOL "Straight" white males?!? When did they become a protected class.

What have you lost to a woman, of any race or are you just blaming women for your own shortcomings?

I dont blame all women, or all blacks, mexicans or whatever

But practically all lefties? sure

Its not easy to find any liberal with an ax to grind about something who does have straight white males near the top of their hit list

 

[el midgetron]

Chattel slavery as practiced in the United States of America as part of the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

Our government doesn't have jurisdiction to do anything about any other nation engaging in the very same behavior it has, right?

Jurisdiction? So for you, slavery was a legal matter not a moral one?
You condemn the US and suggest no whites person today is “innocent” but you disregard the larger context of slavery beyond America’s boarders.

 

[el midgetron]

First, EVERYTHING has kind of deteriorated since the 1970's. We can thank the Right Wing for that, as they have spent the last 50 years demolishing the middle class.

Yes, everything is the “right wing’s” fault, if you believe the liberal media.



What is destroying America transcends the left and right.

 

[Lisa558]

If I called you a "hackivist" do you think people would view that label in a positive or negative light?

And your constant misrepresentation of why there are people on this board who classify you as a racist is just as disingenuous as your portrayal of me as the stereotypical "angry Black woman". You sure did screech when were you were referred to as a "princess" didn't you? Why was that?

Your use of certain language has nothing to do with a disagreement or seeing the same situation from two different perspectives. We provided you with a list of things that are racist when said by white people about Black people so that you could avoid making such statements, on the off chance that you really didn't know what you were saying is racist. But no, instead of taking them to heart, you doubled down on a lot of it.

I don't care whether or not you're a racist, I am paid good money for my professional opinion on multiple topics, including if specific action(s) can be alleged to be a violation of any of the laws covered by the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 (yeah, including racial discrimination). In your case, I am simply pointing out that the comments you make are being made intentionally with the complete knowledge that they are indeed racist which may be taken as prima facie evidence of your intent. Meaning you knowingly made the statements, knowing they were racists and intending for them to be received as such.

So make sure when you go crying to the moderators that you explain properly what was actually said instead of falsely claiming that you were attacked in a violation of Zone 1 rules.

And you’ve called me a racist. So you are free to call me a racist, and I can’t call you a blacktivist?

After that, I didn’t read any more.

 

[Lisa558]

No it's genocide of whites

Right now, the call for genocide is only being screamed out for Jews.

 

[Lisa558]

What's nasty about what he said?

He said I was racist in a Zone 1 thread by falsely claiming I think I’m better than blacks.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

it is a slippery slope at best....what minority cant claim they were hurt a century ago by government policies....native americans..women...the list just goes on

Wops, micks, kikes, krauts, chinks… we’re all owed reparations