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Is it the right thing to let someone die due to lack of funds to pay for medical care?
No, I am not fine with it at all, but that is the goal of the people we elect from either of the two major parties and since there is not enough of us that do not vote for one of those two parites, it is an inevitability, in my opinion.
Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!So you’re saying one must have healthcare to be treated?It’s what a politician is, afraid of doing the right thing for fear of reelection. Term limits is needed to eliminate thatPresumption of guilt doesn't fly in a free society. If and when someone racks up bills they can't pay, you're welcome to call them freeloaders. The fact of the matter is that insurance is only one way to pay for health care. It might be your favorite, but that doesn't justify forcing it on everyone else.
One bad turn deserves another, eh? How about, instead of just perpetuating the bullshit with even more coercive laws, we just get rid of the original problem. Seriously, if all the stingy bastards upset by EMTALA just worked to repeal it, instead of concocting more and more corrupt schemes to compensate for it, the problem would solve itself.
Find me one politician in office that even has the balls to speak of getting rid of the EMTALA. There are none as it is political suicide.
The American public is not willing to go back to the days of people dying while being shipped from one hospital to the other due to lack of money.
That is the reality of the situation, and I deal in realities not wishful thinking.
Right now due to the EMTALA there is little incentive for people to prepare for the unexpected.
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Whose version of the “right thing” should they go by?
Is it the right thing to let someone die due to lack of funds to pay for medical care?
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being treated is healthcare.
Find one yourself. I don't care that much about EMTALA. It's an unfunded mandate, but it's not a major cause of health care inflation. Mostly it's just a superficial excuse for socializing health care.
There are none to be found, that is why I do not waste my time talking about repealing it, you would have better luck getting rid of SS
Yes. People dying in the alleys outside hospitals is reality. Not lurid fear mongering.... uh huh.
That was the reality before the law, people were dying being bounced around to different hospitals till they found one that would take them.
You realize EMTALA doesn't give away health care, right? People are still required to pay for the services they get, and usually do. It's not the boogey man you've been led to believe.
It does give away care and treatment if you are unable to pay for it. Sure they get a bill after the fact and they just ignore it and in 7 years it is off their credit report and they move on. And people that are responsible and pay their bills foot the cost of it.
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Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!So you’re saying one must have healthcare to be treated?It’s what a politician is, afraid of doing the right thing for fear of reelection. Term limits is needed to eliminate thatFind me one politician in office that even has the balls to speak of getting rid of the EMTALA. There are none as it is political suicide.
The American public is not willing to go back to the days of people dying while being shipped from one hospital to the other due to lack of money.
That is the reality of the situation, and I deal in realities not wishful thinking.
Right now due to the EMTALA there is little incentive for people to prepare for the unexpected.
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Whose version of the “right thing” should they go by?
Is it the right thing to let someone die due to lack of funds to pay for medical care?
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being treated is healthcare.
Do you DO actually support more Gov regulation. You need to remember what you've posted before. Someone will ALWAYS pick up when you start talking out of the other side of your mouth. Hypocrite
How does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!So you’re saying one must have healthcare to be treated?It’s what a politician is, afraid of doing the right thing for fear of reelection. Term limits is needed to eliminate that
Whose version of the “right thing” should they go by?
Is it the right thing to let someone die due to lack of funds to pay for medical care?
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being treated is healthcare.
I don't, but nice try. And I did not mention insurance at all, I said "lack the funds to pay".
I love the wordsmithing here. The premise in this slogan is that if anyone dies, and could have been saved, someone 'let' them die. So, let me ask you: How many people did you let die today?
How does a doctor or nurse know someone can’t pay when they come in?Do you DO actually support more Gov regulation. You need to remember what you've posted before. Someone will ALWAYS pick up when you start talking out of the other side of your mouth. Hypocrite
I support the government not forcing anyone to do something they do not wish to do. Be it the individual or the healthcare facility.
But in absence of that happening, I support both sides of the equation being equally yoked and not just one side getting bent over the table.
How does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!So you’re saying one must have healthcare to be treated?Whose version of the “right thing” should they go by?
Is it the right thing to let someone die due to lack of funds to pay for medical care?
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being treated is healthcare.
I don't, but nice try. And I did not mention insurance at all, I said "lack the funds to pay".
Obama tried too hard to please his base
Haha...what? Now it's the Democrats fault that the GOP naysayers don't actually know how to govern? HehExcept Democrats put the cart before the horse and are needed to flip it and they are AWOLThat's what you get, when you hitch your wagons to a reapublican idea that was never more than an emotional knee jerk to an obviously better plan (as most of their ideas are these days)It's already unconstitutional, and was at the time of passage.
Biggest mistake Obama made...I'm sure it was fun eating the gop's lunch and contrasting himself to Hillary, but he thought the Republicans would work with him to make their own idea awesome. Haha, stupid, gullible Obama, assuming he was working with adults...
I love the wordsmithing here. The premise in this slogan is that if anyone dies, and could have been saved, someone 'let' them die. So, let me ask you: How many people did you let die today?
I did not let anyone die today as nobody came to me with a chance for me to save their life.
Copay is the only thing I’ve ever been asked for for service. I pay the bill later when I get it! And if I’m not mistaken people on food stamps use food stamps at grocery stores, those same people have medical cardsHow does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!So you’re saying one must have healthcare to be treated?
being treated is healthcare.
I don't, but nice try. And I did not mention insurance at all, I said "lack the funds to pay".
The same way a grocery store knows if you have the funds to pay for your groceries, or the gas station knows you have it to pay for your fuel.
This is not rocket science.
Yes, obammy fail is theirs and they are needed to make change. Why don’t you know that? Your handler never told you?Obama tried too hard to please his baseHaha...what? Now it's the Democrats fault that the GOP naysayers don't actually know how to govern? HehExcept Democrats put the cart before the horse and are needed to flip it and they are AWOLThat's what you get, when you hitch your wagons to a reapublican idea that was never more than an emotional knee jerk to an obviously better plan (as most of their ideas are these days)It's already unconstitutional, and was at the time of passage.
Biggest mistake Obama made...I'm sure it was fun eating the gop's lunch and contrasting himself to Hillary, but he thought the Republicans would work with him to make their own idea awesome. Haha, stupid, gullible Obama, assuming he was working with adults...
..ok
Copay is the only thing I’ve ever been asked for for service. I pay the bill later when I get it! And if I’m not mistaken people on food stamps use food stamps at grocery stores, those same people have medical cardsHow does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!being treated is healthcare.
I don't, but nice try. And I did not mention insurance at all, I said "lack the funds to pay".
The same way a grocery store knows if you have the funds to pay for your groceries, or the gas station knows you have it to pay for your fuel.
This is not rocket science.
I love the wordsmithing here. The premise in this slogan is that if anyone dies, and could have been saved, someone 'let' them die. So, let me ask you: How many people did you let die today?
I did not let anyone die today as nobody came to me with a chance for me to save their life.
Exactly. The talking point is full of shit. It suggests that if anyone dies, and their death could have conceivably been postponed by more health care, then all of society is guilty of 'letting' them die.
Yep. Just like the poor show their medical card. SoCopay is the only thing I’ve ever been asked for for service. I pay the bill later when I get it! And if I’m not mistaken people on food stamps use food stamps at grocery stores, those same people have medical cardsHow does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?Sorry insurance. You all use insurances as healthcare!
I don't, but nice try. And I did not mention insurance at all, I said "lack the funds to pay".
The same way a grocery store knows if you have the funds to pay for your groceries, or the gas station knows you have it to pay for your fuel.
This is not rocket science.
You never have to show your insurance card? how do they know how much your co-pay is?
Yep. Just like the poor show their medical card. SoCopay is the only thing I’ve ever been asked for for service. I pay the bill later when I get it! And if I’m not mistaken people on food stamps use food stamps at grocery stores, those same people have medical cardsHow does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?I don't, but nice try. And I did not mention insurance at all, I said "lack the funds to pay".
The same way a grocery store knows if you have the funds to pay for your groceries, or the gas station knows you have it to pay for your fuel.
This is not rocket science.
You never have to show your insurance card? how do they know how much your co-pay is?
Then they pay cash, or, contact a catholic charityYep. Just like the poor show their medical card. SoCopay is the only thing I’ve ever been asked for for service. I pay the bill later when I get it! And if I’m not mistaken people on food stamps use food stamps at grocery stores, those same people have medical cardsHow does someone know a patient has lack of funds when they come in for a visit?
The same way a grocery store knows if you have the funds to pay for your groceries, or the gas station knows you have it to pay for your fuel.
This is not rocket science.
You never have to show your insurance card? how do they know how much your co-pay is?
But there are people that are not poor that do not have a medical card or an insurance card as they choose not to carry it. Those are the folks I am speaking of.
One could be in the top 10% and still be wiped out by a prolonged stay in the hospital if they do not have insurance.
Then they pay cash.Yep. Just like the poor show their medical card. SoCopay is the only thing I’ve ever been asked for for service. I pay the bill later when I get it! And if I’m not mistaken people on food stamps use food stamps at grocery stores, those same people have medical cardsThe same way a grocery store knows if you have the funds to pay for your groceries, or the gas station knows you have it to pay for your fuel.
This is not rocket science.
You never have to show your insurance card? how do they know how much your co-pay is?
But there are people that are not poor that do not have a medical card or an insurance card as they choose not to carry it. Those are the folks I am speaking of.
One could be in the top 10% and still be wiped out by a prolonged stay in the hospital if they do not have insurance.
Only a fool trusts insuranceSo that would be a "no" then?LolLol
Lol, Insurance is cowardly?You’re misunderstanding, people can buy whatever they want don’t give two shits but no one should be forced to buy insurance whatsoever that’s cowardly shitYou think people shouldn't be able to buy insurance from anyone for any price? What a heartless pig.
So I'm guessing you don't have anything as cowardly as a retirement plan either?
I have collectible firearms and knive some of which are worth more than my house...
