Bush rejects Saddam 9/11 link

[martybegan]

What it shows is that Obama had a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than the lying bastard in the White House

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period.

Who's the lying bastard?

Perhaps you should give some thought to what a lie is. A lie occurs when someone KNOWS the truth and purposely says something they know to be untrue. For example, LBJ knew that an American ship HAD NOT been attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin but that is not what he told the American people. That was a lie because he purposely hid the truth. Another example would be gwb saying that Iraq had WMD. bush had received briefings that Saddam did not have WMD yet his people were talking of germ warfare, poison gas, and mushroom clouds over New York. bush knew the truth and purposely kept it from the American people.
Now, as to Obama lying, you can only make that claim if you have some proof that he knew what he was saying was wrong and purposely misled the American people. DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT BEFORE HE MADE THE STATEMENT YOU ARE CITING HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS WRONG. You can accuse him of making statements that were WRONG but you statement he was lying is as phony as the Death Panels that never existed.
But hey, facts mean nothing here. It's all about the mud. Right? Right???????

First of all, Paragraphs are your friend.

Second of all, it was Obama's people, both executive and legislative that crafted Obamacare, he was glad to lend his name to it when it seemed like a great idea. He should have known the detail before he said on NATIONAL TV to the AMERICAN PEOPLE that they could keep their insurance plans if they wanted to.

And for show me the evidence that there was conclusive proof Bush was shown Saddam had no WMD's.

I'm waiting.

 

[rightwinger]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period.

Who's the lying bastard?

Really?

That is your sense of moral eqivalence?

Someone having to look for another insurance plan vs starting a war on false pretenses and killing 100,000 people?


Has your side sunk that low?

Obama's people created the bill. He put his name on it. he should have known what was in it. he didn't and he LIED on national television repeatedly.

Bush was acting on the intelligence information he had at the time. He was not shown information (as far as we know) saying Saddam had, without a doubt" NO WMD's. Saddam never came out and said he had none. It turns out he was lying, and his government was lying the whole time.

Your president was caught in a 100% LIE. Deal with it.

Double down on stupid

Bush had no interest in intelligence that did not support his attack plans. There is ample evidence that he lied to support his ill advised invasion

Obama was speaking about the ACA forcing people to drop their insurance plan. He had no control over what private insurers chose to do

To equate an ill advised invasion killing 100,000 people to having to shop for a new insurance plan is morally repulsive

 

[nodoginnafight]

What a bunch of deflection and diversion.

The topic is DID BUSH LIE THE UNITED STATES INTO A WAR IN IRAQ.

The answer is obviously an unequivocal yes.

It doesn't excuse any other lies by any other presidents before or after.

But there is just no question on this issue. So I understand how that is so embarrassing to some, that they feel the need to try to divert attention elsewhere. In fact, that's about the most clear indication that it's true.

 

[martybegan]

Really?

That is your sense of moral eqivalence?

Someone having to look for another insurance plan vs starting a war on false pretenses and killing 100,000 people?


Has your side sunk that low?

Obama's people created the bill. He put his name on it. he should have known what was in it. he didn't and he LIED on national television repeatedly.

Bush was acting on the intelligence information he had at the time. He was not shown information (as far as we know) saying Saddam had, without a doubt" NO WMD's. Saddam never came out and said he had none. It turns out he was lying, and his government was lying the whole time.

Your president was caught in a 100% LIE. Deal with it.

Double down on stupid

Bush had no interest in intelligence that did not support his attack plans. There is ample evidence that he lied to support his ill advised invasion

Obama was speaking about the ACA forcing people to drop their insurance plan. He had no control over what private insurers chose to do

To equate an ill advised invasion killing 100,000 people to having to shop for a new insurance plan is morally repulsive

The rules of the law forced them to drop the coverage. Your attempt to split hairs here shows how utterly gutless you are when admitting your side fucked up.

And as for your observations on the "ample evidence" I havent see any conviction of bush for lying, or any real evidence.

In fact, the bookending democratic presidents have more actual evidence for lying against them than Bush has against him.

 

[martybegan]

What a bunch of deflection and diversion.

The topic is DID BUSH LIE THE UNITED STATES INTO A WAR IN IRAQ.

The answer is obviously an unequivocal yes.

It doesn't excuse any other lies by any other presidents before or after.

But there is just no question on this issue. So I understand how that is so embarrassing to some, that they feel the need to try to divert attention elsewhere. In fact, that's about the most clear indication that it's true.

So where is the actual evidence? Oh right you have none, just conjecture and wishful thinking.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You're wasting your time.. the left also thinks Palin said she could see Russia from her house. They live one big lie.

No we just think it's funny. What she really said wasnt any better either

 

[Plasmaball]

Ah the word game. ...Welcome to Frank luntz and the slight of hand of changing words...

 

[BlindBoo]

Well this criticizer-in-chief.. He helped the terrorists kill 3,000 more US troops and 100,000s of Iraqis and here is how...
Illustration..
Assume you are getting ready to kick a game winning field goal in front of 100,000 people and millions of viewers.
NOW EVERYONE including YOUR cheerleaders, your team's fans, EVERYONE BOOING YOU! Praying you miss. How would you feel?
More importantly how would your opponents feel? Would they cheer you or what your fans were doing ??

NOW take this to this statement made in Nashua, NH, Monday,Aug 14, 2007
Obama said that we’re..... air raiding villages and killing civilians..."
?Air-raiding villages and killing civilians? - ABC News

NOW I've taken this quote OUT of context. I admit it!

But so would the terrorists! They would clip and parse these words and that goes to show how either:

1) How totally inept this idiot was in making such stupid comments that COULD be taken out of context or

2) He really meant these words.
"Look, it’s an all volunteer force,” Obama complained. “Nobody made these guys go to war.
They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn’t compute..”
“I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country, “Obama continued
“I wasn’t asking for blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history,
I’d have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation’s deficit."
Why does Obama Hate our Military? | Real Verse

In either case Obama made these comments!

Not only out of context but you made up what he said, again. In reality he was pushing for more troops and equipment for Afghanistan.

Hey any asshole can take anything out of context. Looks like the Republicans think like terrorist. Or maybe the terrorist just watch a lot of Fox.

 

[BlindBoo]

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period.

Who's the lying bastard?

Perhaps you should give some thought to what a lie is. A lie occurs when someone KNOWS the truth and purposely says something they know to be untrue. For example, LBJ knew that an American ship HAD NOT been attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin but that is not what he told the American people. That was a lie because he purposely hid the truth. Another example would be gwb saying that Iraq had WMD. bush had received briefings that Saddam did not have WMD yet his people were talking of germ warfare, poison gas, and mushroom clouds over New York. bush knew the truth and purposely kept it from the American people.
Now, as to Obama lying, you can only make that claim if you have some proof that he knew what he was saying was wrong and purposely misled the American people. DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT BEFORE HE MADE THE STATEMENT YOU ARE CITING HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS WRONG. You can accuse him of making statements that were WRONG but you statement he was lying is as phony as the Death Panels that never existed.
But hey, facts mean nothing here. It's all about the mud. Right? Right???????

First of all, Paragraphs are your friend.

Second of all, it was Obama's people, both executive and legislative that crafted Obamacare, he was glad to lend his name to it when it seemed like a great idea. He should have known the detail before he said on NATIONAL TV to the AMERICAN PEOPLE that they could keep their insurance plans if they wanted to.

And for show me the evidence that there was conclusive proof Bush was shown Saddam had no WMD's.

I'm waiting.

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

 

[LeftofLeft]

Now I realize this is old news that everyone should know but in an attempt to make those who listen to those who dispense lies I think reeducation is needed.

Here is what our President Bush said "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation.

Many people may believe this was the case because in "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore truncated a comment by Condi Rice in order to deliberately give viewers of his movie that false impression. Here's the quote as it appeared in the film:

"There is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11"

Now here's the full quote:

"Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It’s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York."

Saddam Hussein was a threat to the US. Al Qaeda has been an ongoing threat to the US since '93. Al Qaeda struck US in February '93 and then the big one on 9-11-2001. Saddam had been a big threat as Democrats and Republicans both outlined the case for taking out Saddam.

At the time of 9-11, I did not think Saddam was part of it, but, I thought that Saddam seeing a bunch of animals hitting the US in the heel, what he could as well? Saddam was a credible threat. Hillary, Bill, Kerry, Kennedy, Biden, all said so.

 

[Freewill]

Perhaps you should give some thought to what a lie is. A lie occurs when someone KNOWS the truth and purposely says something they know to be untrue. For example, LBJ knew that an American ship HAD NOT been attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin but that is not what he told the American people. That was a lie because he purposely hid the truth. Another example would be gwb saying that Iraq had WMD. bush had received briefings that Saddam did not have WMD yet his people were talking of germ warfare, poison gas, and mushroom clouds over New York. bush knew the truth and purposely kept it from the American people.
Now, as to Obama lying, you can only make that claim if you have some proof that he knew what he was saying was wrong and purposely misled the American people. DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT BEFORE HE MADE THE STATEMENT YOU ARE CITING HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS WRONG. You can accuse him of making statements that were WRONG but you statement he was lying is as phony as the Death Panels that never existed.
But hey, facts mean nothing here. It's all about the mud. Right? Right???????

First of all, Paragraphs are your friend.

Second of all, it was Obama's people, both executive and legislative that crafted Obamacare, he was glad to lend his name to it when it seemed like a great idea. He should have known the detail before he said on NATIONAL TV to the AMERICAN PEOPLE that they could keep their insurance plans if they wanted to.

And for show me the evidence that there was conclusive proof Bush was shown Saddam had no WMD's.

I'm waiting.

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Is it not a beautiful thing when people sworn to secrecy spill their guts?

 

[Freewill]

What it shows is that Obama had a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than the lying bastard in the White House

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period.

Who's the lying bastard?

Really?

That is your sense of moral eqivalence?

Someone having to look for another insurance plan vs starting a war on false pretenses and killing 100,000 people?

Has your side sunk that low?

We have covered the false pretense lie but I see you missed lesson one. Repeating it will do no good.

Next topic with be the 100000 lie that the left keeps repeating.

How many has Obama killed in Afghanistan? How many US military have died and how many civilians? Bet you don't know cause you dont' really give a crap.

 

[blastoff]

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

Wonder how 935 stacks up against statements made by Slick and Mrs. Willie and scads of other dimocrats who preached of the danger of Saddam's WMD and the threat he posed to the world because of them?

 

[Freewill]

Really?

That is your sense of moral eqivalence?

Someone having to look for another insurance plan vs starting a war on false pretenses and killing 100,000 people?


Has your side sunk that low?

Obama's people created the bill. He put his name on it. he should have known what was in it. he didn't and he LIED on national television repeatedly.

Bush was acting on the intelligence information he had at the time. He was not shown information (as far as we know) saying Saddam had, without a doubt" NO WMD's. Saddam never came out and said he had none. It turns out he was lying, and his government was lying the whole time.

Your president was caught in a 100% LIE. Deal with it.

Double down on stupid

Bush had no interest in intelligence that did not support his attack plans. There is ample evidence that he lied to support his ill advised invasion

Obama was speaking about the ACA forcing people to drop their insurance plan. He had no control over what private insurers chose to do

To equate an ill advised invasion killing 100,000 people to having to shop for a new insurance plan is morally repulsive

Triple down on idiocy. The democrat leadership had the same access to the same intel as did Bush were they too on the conspiracy? Come on give us a break and change up the lies just once in awhile.

I agree with you, Obama didn't lie he just doesn't have the foggiest idea nor the concern about what subject he is talking. He said then was politically expedient and the time knowing that if it turned out to not be true he could release the flying monkeys to defend him with their lies. Much like his telling us that Benghazi was over a video knowing full well that wasn't true.

 

[jasonnfree]

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

Wonder how 935 stacks up against statements made by Slick and Mrs. Willie and scads of other dimocrats who preached of the danger of Saddam's WMD and the threat he posed to the world because of them?

Have it your way. So clinton loaded the gun but bush pulled the trigger. He used the bully pulpit to sell sadaam having weapons of mass destruction. Scaring the populace who for the most part believe a president. For weeks on end, bush pushing the weapons. They knew where they were. Weapons capable of great destruction. Weapons given to sadaam by another bush by the way but hey, so what. Anyway, bush won't be tried for anything so you can stop chasing around on the internet looking for links that prove bush innocent.
By the way, after the weapons weren't found, why did USA stay in Iraq? The story changed to "have to get sadaam" After they got sadaam why didn't USA leave then? Too much money being made. The whole reason for going into Iraq.

 

[Jarhead]

What it shows is that Obama had a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than the lying bastard in the White House

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period.

Who's the lying bastard?

Perhaps you should give some thought to what a lie is. A lie occurs when someone KNOWS the truth and purposely says something they know to be untrue. For example, LBJ knew that an American ship HAD NOT been attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin but that is not what he told the American people. That was a lie because he purposely hid the truth. Another example would be gwb saying that Iraq had WMD. bush had received briefings that Saddam did not have WMD yet his people were talking of germ warfare, poison gas, and mushroom clouds over New York. bush knew the truth and purposely kept it from the American people.
Now, as to Obama lying, you can only make that claim if you have some proof that he knew what he was saying was wrong and purposely misled the American people. DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT BEFORE HE MADE THE STATEMENT YOU ARE CITING HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS WRONG. You can accuse him of making statements that were WRONG but you statement he was lying is as phony as the Death Panels that never existed.
But hey, facts mean nothing here. It's all about the mud. Right? Right???????

Are you an idiot? Or is it that you think Obama is?

Obama was aware that many plans did NOT have the requirements mandated under the new law....thus why they made them mandates.

Enough said.

 

[BlindBoo]

First of all, Paragraphs are your friend.

Second of all, it was Obama's people, both executive and legislative that crafted Obamacare, he was glad to lend his name to it when it seemed like a great idea. He should have known the detail before he said on NATIONAL TV to the AMERICAN PEOPLE that they could keep their insurance plans if they wanted to.

And for show me the evidence that there was conclusive proof Bush was shown Saddam had no WMD's.

I'm waiting.

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Is it not a beautiful thing when people sworn to secrecy spill their guts?

Perhaps you think it is especially beautiful when it leads to thousands of unnecessary deaths.

According to Tenet, Bush’s response was to call the information “the same old thing.” Bush insisted it was simply what Saddam wanted him to think. “The president had no interest in the intelligence,” said the CIA officer. The other officer said, “Bush didn’t give a fuck about the intelligence. He had his mind made up.”

 

[kaz]

Additionally, there were plenty of folks in the Bush administration tying Iraq to 9/11.

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq | Mother Jones

Not one quote in that link had anyone in the Bush administration saying that Hussein had anything to do with 9/11. Do you not actually read links before you post them? LOL. I know you don't, just mocking you for it...

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now I realize this is old news that everyone should know but in an attempt to make those who listen to those who dispense lies I think reeducation is needed.

Here is what our President Bush said "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation.

Many people may believe this was the case because in "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore truncated a comment by Condi Rice in order to deliberately give viewers of his movie that false impression. Here's the quote as it appeared in the film:

"There is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11"

Now here's the full quote:

"Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It’s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York."

There is no link between SH and 9-11.

If you buy the concept of ideologies driving history, then of course Bush invaded Iraq.

Freewill is as disingenuous as Michael M.

For shame!

 

[kaz]

Now I realize this is old news that everyone should know but in an attempt to make those who listen to those who dispense lies I think reeducation is needed.

Here is what our President Bush said "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks," Mr Bush told reporters as he met members of Congress on energy legislation.

Many people may believe this was the case because in "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore truncated a comment by Condi Rice in order to deliberately give viewers of his movie that false impression. Here's the quote as it appeared in the film:

"There is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11"

Now here's the full quote:

"Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It’s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York."

There is no link between SH and 9-11.

If you buy the concept of ideologies driving history, then of course Bush invaded Iraq.

Freewill is as disingenuous as Michael M.

For shame!

LOL, you didn't say anything that disagreed with Freewill.