But...I thought Australia solved their gun crime problem by banning guns...so...how do these criminals have guns?

Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.


Dumb ass...this is why we have gun crime in the U.S. at the levels we do in democrat party controlled cities........

Chicago is completely under democrat party control.........and this is what they do with known, violent criminal offenders.....

A suspected double-murderer who sparked an Amber Alert across Chicagoland on Friday evening is on bail for allegedly killing a woman while fleeing police and for two separate Class X felony armed habitual criminal gun crimes.

Clarence Hebron, 32, had been held without bail on those cases for over a year until a Cook County judge agreed to release him on just $15,000 bond in July.

Hebron has not been charged with Friday’s murder of 26-year-old Jessica Beal and her brother in Riverdale, but police identified him as the suspect in an Amber Alert after Beal’s 1-year-old boy went missing following the homicides. The boy has since been located.

Incredibly, Hebron was also on bail for the two armed habitual criminal cases when he allegedly killed a woman while fleeing police in April last year.

Two gun cases, two bail bonds, then homicide

Hebron is awaiting trial for two separate major gun cases in which he is charged with a total of two counts of Class X armed habitual criminal, five counts of being a felon in possession of a firearm, and four counts of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon by a felon, according to the Cook County sheriff’s office.

In early 2019, Chicago police and federal agents raided Hebron’s home and recovered a firearm, a source said. Hebron wasn’t home at the time, but his girlfriend and newborn baby were. Police eventually found him, and prosecutors charged him in the case.

The second gun case also started in early 2019. In that incident, cops allegedly found a gun in Hebron’s car after he crashed the vehicle while police followed him on the South Side. He got away, but officers later arrested him at work, according to CPD records.

Hebron was released on bail for both cases.

Just a couple of months later, Hebron again sped away from officers when they tried to stop him for a traffic violation in Englewood on the afternoon of April 18, 2019.

Prosecutors say he crashed his car into a vehicle driven by 32-year-old Dana Hubbard. She died a few days later. He’s charged with reckless homicide by motor vehicle, aggravated fleeing causing bodily injury, and driving on a revoked license resulting in injury or death. A judge ordered him held without bail.

Hebron remained in jail without bail for over a year until his lawyer filed a motion to reduce bail in late June. Three days later, Cook County Judge Dennis Porter slashed Hebron’s bail to $50,000 on each of the three cases.

 
Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.
The problem is not the gun.
 
Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.


Hey....shit stain...........you can't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns, those half wits you hate, our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%, you dumb ass.

The problem in the United States is not gun ownership. Our problem is the democrat party, you slack jawed dumb ass........the democrat party and it's policies drive our gun crime rate, it is not normal Americans who own and carry guns for self defense.....you moronic half wit.

the democrat party creates laws that allow violent, repeat gun offenders to be released from jail and prison over and over again. It is democrat party prosecutors who drop gun charges against violent criminals over and over again, allowing them to be released on bail, and released from prison on short sentences.....and it is these criminals who are known and who have been arrested over and over again who are driving our gun crime rate in democrat party controlled cities......

It is democrat party judges who allow violent, repeat, known gun offenders to be released from jail over and over again on bail, now often on "No Cash," bail, and out of prison with light sentences even though they are known, violent, repeat offenders....

You are the slack jawed idiot who doesn't understand the issues involved in gun crime............you are the problem.


The evidence is clear, America has the most mass shootings because any half wit can get a gun than any other developed country.

America has more half wits in general too.

 
Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.


Hey....shit stain...........you can't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns, those half wits you hate, our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%, you dumb ass.

The problem in the United States is not gun ownership. Our problem is the democrat party, you slack jawed dumb ass........the democrat party and it's policies drive our gun crime rate, it is not normal Americans who own and carry guns for self defense.....you moronic half wit.

the democrat party creates laws that allow violent, repeat gun offenders to be released from jail and prison over and over again. It is democrat party prosecutors who drop gun charges against violent criminals over and over again, allowing them to be released on bail, and released from prison on short sentences.....and it is these criminals who are known and who have been arrested over and over again who are driving our gun crime rate in democrat party controlled cities......

It is democrat party judges who allow violent, repeat, known gun offenders to be released from jail over and over again on bail, now often on "No Cash," bail, and out of prison with light sentences even though they are known, violent, repeat offenders....

You are the slack jawed idiot who doesn't understand the issues involved in gun crime............you are the problem.


The evidence is clear, America has the most mass shootings because any half wit can get a gun than any other developed country.

America has more half wits in general too.



You, and they, don't know what they are talking about......

Mother Jones collects mass public shooting data for every mass public shooting that happens in this country....in 2019 there were 10 mass public shootings in the country.....a country of over 330 million people

What you, and they don't understand, is that there is a difference between criminals shooting at each other, and actual mass public shootings...they are not the same thing.....

US mass shootings, 1982-2020: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:
    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------
Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.


Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017


795



knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source....
The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...


Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(
https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8
 
Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.


Hey....shit stain...........you can't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns, those half wits you hate, our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%, you dumb ass.

The problem in the United States is not gun ownership. Our problem is the democrat party, you slack jawed dumb ass........the democrat party and it's policies drive our gun crime rate, it is not normal Americans who own and carry guns for self defense.....you moronic half wit.

the democrat party creates laws that allow violent, repeat gun offenders to be released from jail and prison over and over again. It is democrat party prosecutors who drop gun charges against violent criminals over and over again, allowing them to be released on bail, and released from prison on short sentences.....and it is these criminals who are known and who have been arrested over and over again who are driving our gun crime rate in democrat party controlled cities......

It is democrat party judges who allow violent, repeat, known gun offenders to be released from jail over and over again on bail, now often on "No Cash," bail, and out of prison with light sentences even though they are known, violent, repeat offenders....

You are the slack jawed idiot who doesn't understand the issues involved in gun crime............you are the problem.


The evidence is clear, America has the most mass shootings because any half wit can get a gun than any other developed country.

America has more half wits in general too.



You, and they, don't know what they are talking about......

Mother Jones collects mass public shooting data for every mass public shooting that happens in this country....in 2019 there were 10 mass public shootings in the country.....a country of over 330 million people

What you, and they don't understand, is that there is a difference between criminals shooting at each other, and actual mass public shootings...they are not the same thing.....

US mass shootings, 1982-2020: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------


  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:
    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  • ----------------------
Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.


Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017


795



knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source....
The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...


Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(
https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8


The data is clear, Americans are crazed, violent savages with the worst mass shooting record in the democratic, developed world.

And why are you all so fat?

 
Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.


Hey....shit stain...........you can't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns, those half wits you hate, our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%, you dumb ass.

The problem in the United States is not gun ownership. Our problem is the democrat party, you slack jawed dumb ass........the democrat party and it's policies drive our gun crime rate, it is not normal Americans who own and carry guns for self defense.....you moronic half wit.

the democrat party creates laws that allow violent, repeat gun offenders to be released from jail and prison over and over again. It is democrat party prosecutors who drop gun charges against violent criminals over and over again, allowing them to be released on bail, and released from prison on short sentences.....and it is these criminals who are known and who have been arrested over and over again who are driving our gun crime rate in democrat party controlled cities......

It is democrat party judges who allow violent, repeat, known gun offenders to be released from jail over and over again on bail, now often on "No Cash," bail, and out of prison with light sentences even though they are known, violent, repeat offenders....

You are the slack jawed idiot who doesn't understand the issues involved in gun crime............you are the problem.


The evidence is clear, America has the most mass shootings because any half wit can get a gun than any other developed country.

America has more half wits in general too.

You are blaming an inanimate object. The problem is not the gun,the problem is a society that places little value on human lives, and other factors that produce monsters who shoot into crowds of people. I’m not a psychologist so I can’t provide all of the reasons people do this but a gun never turned a sane person into a murderer.

people who are going to kill will do it with or without guns. As long as you focus on the tool, the problem of murder and violence will never be solved.
 
Organised criminals in all countries can get guns.

They are not the problem, it is all the slobbering half wits with delusions of Clint Eastwood or Hip Hop grandeur with guns that sees so many people killed in the United States of Anger.
Did you actually say that guns in the hands of criminals are not the problem?
Are you really THAT stupid?


Poorly written and cheerfully withdrawn.

Allow me to clarify.

Criminals get guns in any society. That is the for the police to deal with.

But only in America can any half wit, slack jawed, moronic hick with a small penis and mental issues as a consequence get one and go off half cocked on society, shooting up schools and their neighbours and so it goes in the blood stained United States of Anger.


Hey....shit stain...........you can't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns, those half wits you hate, our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%, you dumb ass.

The problem in the United States is not gun ownership. Our problem is the democrat party, you slack jawed dumb ass........the democrat party and it's policies drive our gun crime rate, it is not normal Americans who own and carry guns for self defense.....you moronic half wit.

the democrat party creates laws that allow violent, repeat gun offenders to be released from jail and prison over and over again. It is democrat party prosecutors who drop gun charges against violent criminals over and over again, allowing them to be released on bail, and released from prison on short sentences.....and it is these criminals who are known and who have been arrested over and over again who are driving our gun crime rate in democrat party controlled cities......

It is democrat party judges who allow violent, repeat, known gun offenders to be released from jail over and over again on bail, now often on "No Cash," bail, and out of prison with light sentences even though they are known, violent, repeat offenders....

You are the slack jawed idiot who doesn't understand the issues involved in gun crime............you are the problem.


The evidence is clear, America has the most mass shootings because any half wit can get a gun than any other developed country.

America has more half wits in general too.

You are blaming an inanimate object. The problem is not the gun,the problem is a society that places little value on human lives, and other factors that produce monsters who shoot into crowds of people. I’m not a psychologist so I can’t provide all of the reasons people do this but a gun never turned a sane person into a murderer.

people who are going to kill will do it with or without guns. As long as you focus on the tool, the problem of murder and violence will never be solved.


Yes, I agree.

Americans are barbarians and savages.
 
Yes, I agree.

Americans are barbarians and savages.
No they're not.
They have a different Constitution, different systems...with 50 states all doing their own thing.
Each state basically like "a self-governing country".
Death chambers are barbaric though...but most states have seen the light and have abolished them.
 
The data is clear, Americans are crazed, violent savages with the worst mass shooting record in the democratic, developed world.

And why are you all so fat?



We had 12 mass public shootings in 2019......12. In a country of over 330 million people.....

People killed in mass public shootings in 2019...73

People killed by cars, 39,000

People killed by deer.......200

Ladders kill 300 people....

bathtubs over 300 people..

You used wikipedia, which uses anti-gun extremist propaganda for it's page....

The actual number of mass public shootings in the U.S. by year....

Keep in mind.....a terrorist in Nice, France killed 86 people and wounded 453 with a rental truck....more people killed than in any mass public shooting in the U.S......with a rental truck....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation




Deaths in actual mass public shootings... ( someone do the math and tell us what percent of 10,235 the number 73 equals.....)



2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8
 
The evidence is clear, America has the most mass shootings because any half wit can get a gun than any other developed country.

America has more half wits in general too.



Americans use their legal guns 1.2 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, and stabbings....

Meanwhile....the countries of Europe handed over their citizens to the German socialists...and the German socialists went through Europe murdering unarmed people to the tune of 15 million people...people who had their guns taken away from them by their governments on the promise it would make them safer....

German socialists

By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

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So....in gun murder in the U.S. over 87 years.......about 870,000 people ......most of the victims are criminals murdered by other criminals...

In Europe, over a 6 year period.....at least 15 million murdered by their governments....

Can you tell which number is bigger?

They gave up their guns on the same promises of safety that you guys are making now.........then their governments handed them over to the German socialists to be murdered......

Thanks, but we will keep our guns....
 
2 men shot..in gun free Australia...

A man has been discovered with a gunshot wound in a Sydney home just metres from where another man was found bleeding to death on a footpath hours earlier.

A police operation was underway in Lewisham, in the city’s inner-west, on Friday evening as detectives tried to track down whoever was behind the attacks.


Neighbours found a man with a serious wound to his chest on the footpath about 1pm. Police initially said the man had been stabbed but a spokeswoman subsequently confirmed he had been shot.

“(I’d) just came back from coffee with a friend and found him on the side of the footpath,” witness Keith Mulhall told Seven News. The man, believed to be in his 30s, died on the way to hospital.

Paramedics were later called to treat a second man, 55, found in a Victoria Street house with a gunshot wound to his head. Armed police surrounded the property and the man was rushed to hospital in a critical condition. NSW police later said he was in a serious condition.


There are more guns in oz now then there was prior to them handing them in.
The gun nuts will do anything to sarusy their egos.

I hope they give the criminals guns under the assumption they will use them on themselves. The same in America.
A school slaughter once a week isn't enough yet. Give them more.
 
Most likely, the bad people didn't hand in their auto/semi auto guns as demanded by the Australian govt in the buyback long ago..
The bad people have a habit of not doing as they're told.
Also, criminal gangs have been ordering Glocks in the mail from Europe. Some get seized, some obviously make it thru. Many ways guns can be smuggled into the country.
Bullets flying around suburban residential Sydney streets, men being murdered at 10am, bullets flying into daycare centres and hospitals just missing toddlers and nurses ...We the People had had enough, cops formed Strike Force Raptor.

Pair face life in prison for three murders of Sydney gangland rivals

High-ranking bikie gang members Abuzar Sultani and Siar Munshizada committed string of killings in 2016

Two men face life in prison for three execution murders of gang rivals, including mafioso Pasquale Barbaro and another that occurred a metre from the target’s fiancee.
Business student Abuzar Sultani and housemate Siar Munshizada’s three murder convictions can be revealed after the New South Wales court of criminal appeal on Thursday lifted suppression orders covering the case.
The men, aged 32 and 33, were active and high-ranking members of a Rebels bikie gang chapter when they committed a string of murders across Sydney in 2016.

Rebels enforcer Michael “Ruthless” Davey, described by his father, William, last week as the victim of a “cowardly aggressive and sickening” murder, was shot dead in the driveway of his home in Kingswood on 30 March 2016.
 

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