Can Obama save the Democrats?

[Mac1958]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
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[NightFox]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with one truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
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How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

IMHO the Democrats probably need a Bill Clinton v2.0 to lead the party back towards the center not a encore of ex-President "It's all about Me and Nobody Else" Nimrod at the party helm.

In any case, personally I hope the Democrats destroy themselves with this nonsense and take the Republicans down to hell with 'em.

 

[Pete7469]

You're kidding me right?

The meat puppet faggot is responsible for the democrook party swinging hard left.

 

[JoeB131]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with one truly fucked up choice in 2020.

If the Democrats had played it safe in 2008, Obama never would have gotten the nomination.

Playing it safe is a sure way to lose.

There is no one the Democrats could nominate that would be worse than a continuation of the daily horror show that is Trump. That you Vichy Liberals on Wall Street are more afraid of Liz Warren making you share than what the crazy man might do with those nukes.... that's on you.

 

[Pete7469]

How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

IMHO the Democrats probably need a Bill Clinton v2.0 to lead the party back towards the center not a encore of ex-President "It's all about Me and Nobody Else" Nimrod at the party helm.

In any case, personally I hope the Democrats destroy themselves with this nonsense and take the Republicans down to hell with 'em.

I'd say they need an Andrew Jackson, someone to purge the party of globalist billionaire banking collectivists, racist agitators and freaks of nature.


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[Mac1958]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with one truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

IMHO the Democrats probably need a Bill Clinton v2.0 to lead the party back towards the center not a encore of ex-President "It's all about Me and Nobody Else" Nimrod at the party helm.

In any case, personally I hope the Democrats destroy themselves with this nonsense and take the Republicans down to hell with 'em.

I think that's largely true.

My theory on this is that, when Obama won, the hardcore Lefties figured the battle was over -- that demographics would take over and the "change" they wanted to see was inevitable and imminent. Trump's win was so shocking to them that, well, they pretty much lost their shit. So it's that energy that has turned the party into whatever the hell it is today. So yeah, his wins may be playing a role in this.
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[JoeB131]

How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

yes, he upset the racists and they voted for Trump. He should have tried being less black.

How much effort at the Democrats supposed to waste neglected their base to try go get tired-ass old white racists back?

 

[eagle1462010]

The Far Left lunacy and the appeasement of them by people like Pelosi and the Impeachment BS.........GUARANTEES Trump will be elected.

And the left will LOSE 2 MORE SEATS ON SCOTUS..........

Nice.............keep it up

 

[Terri4Trump]

Can Obama save the Democrats?

LOL! The socialist Kenyan pig helped destroy them.

 

[Mac1958]

How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

IMHO the Democrats probably need a Bill Clinton v2.0 to lead the party back towards the center not a encore of ex-President "It's all about Me and Nobody Else" Nimrod at the party helm.

In any case, personally I hope the Democrats destroy themselves with this nonsense and take the Republicans down to hell with 'em.

I'd say they need an Andrew Jackson, someone to purge the party of globalist billionaire banking collectivists, racist agitators and freaks of nature.


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I don't know if this madness is temporary or permanent, and I don't know for sure how representative it really is of the party.

Maybe the primaries will tell us.
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[Maxdeath]

I have to laugh, 44 is the main reason the democrats have swung so hard left as to be standing football fields away from center.
His policies, extreme views, and lack of world policies along with 'all me' caused the younger generation to slide sideways.

 

[Confounding]

You're kidding me right?

The meat puppet faggot is responsible for the democrook party swinging hard left.

Obama would be right wing in Europe. I'd say Bernie did more to turn the party left. He didn't win the primary but his message created huge ripples on the left.

 

[Confounding]

I have to laugh, 44 is the main reason the democrats have swung so hard left as to be standing football fields away from center.
His policies, extreme views, and lack of world policies along with 'all me' caused the younger generation to slide sideways.

He tried to hand healthcare to the insurance companies on a silver platter. How liberal of him.

 

[Confounding]

I don't know if this madness is temporary or permanent, and I don't know for sure how representative it really is of the party.

Maybe the primaries will tell us.
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It will only get worse. Young liberals are disillusioned with the status quo Democrats. They want AOC and Bernie Sanders.

 

[JoeB131]

I think that's largely true.

My theory on this is that, when Obama won, the hardcore Lefties figured the battle was over -- that demographics would take over and the "change" they wanted to see was inevitable and imminent. Trump's win was so shocking to them that, well, they pretty much lost their shit. So it's that energy that has turned the party into whatever the hell it is today. So yeah, his wins may be playing a role in this.

yes, I don't know why liberals would be upset that a misogynistic, racist facsist crazy person is in charge. That's a total overreaction.

Okay, one more time. Hillary didn't lose because a bunch of the same old, stupid, white racist fuckers voted for Trump. These same old racist fucks voted for Romney right after they got over the fact he was a Mormon. They voted for McCain despite Bush crashing the economy. They voted for Bush even though he outright lied us into a war. You can't fix stupid.

What Did Mrs. Clinton in were all the self-righteous assholes who pissed away their votes on third parties.... because the media told them Hillary had this in the bag and they could afford to be self-righteous.

 

[Confounding]

socialist Kenyan pig

You'd be more useful to your cause if you just stopped talking.

 

[Mac1958]

I don't know if this madness is temporary or permanent, and I don't know for sure how representative it really is of the party.
Maybe the primaries will tell us.

It will only get worse. Young liberals are disillusioned with the status quo Democrats. They want AOC and Bernie Sanders.

They do, I'm just not sure how large a part of the party has gone down that path.

The loudest and most energetic people always get most of the attention in politics, but their actual numbers are a different thing.

I dunno.
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[NightFox]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with one truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

IMHO the Democrats probably need a Bill Clinton v2.0 to lead the party back towards the center not a encore of ex-President "It's all about Me and Nobody Else" Nimrod at the party helm.

In any case, personally I hope the Democrats destroy themselves with this nonsense and take the Republicans down to hell with 'em.

I think that's largely true.

My theory on this is that, when Obama won, the hardcore Lefties figured the battle was over -- that demographics would take over and the "change" they wanted to see was inevitable and imminent. Trump's win was so shocking to them that, well, they pretty much lost their shit. So it's that energy that has turned the party into whatever the hell it is today. So yeah, his wins may be playing a role in this.
.

You have an interesting theory there Mac, you could be right.

Personally I just think it's Trump's abrasive personality and the fact that they didn't get there way that caused the dingbats on the left to "lose their shit". After all the left has a history of acting like spoiled, crack addled infants when elections don't go their way and throw in the fact that Donny constantly gives them the finger and you have the perfect recipe for .............

LEFTWING DINGBAT-MA-GEDDON.

 

[Mac1958]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with one truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

How can he "save the party" when it was under his watch that the party's fortunes fell to generational lows? The Republicans took control of the majority of state and federal government during his leadership of the party and one could make the case the he shares some of the responsibility for Trump getting elected in the first place.

IMHO the Democrats probably need a Bill Clinton v2.0 to lead the party back towards the center not a encore of ex-President "It's all about Me and Nobody Else" Nimrod at the party helm.

In any case, personally I hope the Democrats destroy themselves with this nonsense and take the Republicans down to hell with 'em.

I think that's largely true.

My theory on this is that, when Obama won, the hardcore Lefties figured the battle was over -- that demographics would take over and the "change" they wanted to see was inevitable and imminent. Trump's win was so shocking to them that, well, they pretty much lost their shit. So it's that energy that has turned the party into whatever the hell it is today. So yeah, his wins may be playing a role in this.
.

You have an interesting theory there Mac, you could be right.

Personally I just think it's Trump's abrasive personality and the fact that they didn't get there way that caused the dingbats on the left to "lose their shit". After all the left has a history of acting like spoiled, crack addled infants when elections don't go their way and throw in the fact that Donny constantly gives them the finger and you have the perfect recipe for .............

LEFTWING DINGBAT-MA-GEDDON.

Well yeah, there's definitely that. His behaviors rub salt in the wound. By the pound.

I know that's very gratifying for his supporters.
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[eagle1462010]

left to "lose their shit". After all the left has a history of acting like spoiled, crack addled infants when elections don't go their way