Can republicans explain why the “good guy with a gun” narrative never seems to be a thing?

[bripat9643]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

it might be because youre focusing on one event and ignoring the estimated up to 2-3 million times a yr guns stop crimes and murder,,,


open your mind a little

Estimated by who?

the CDC,,,
and dont act like you didnt know that, the link has beens posted dozens of times

The CDC say guns prevent million of crimes a year?

Bullshit.

They aren't even allowed to track gun violence, how would they track gun crime prevention?

I say again BULLSHIT.

You are correct, the cdc has never done a study. It's another gun lobby lie.

That is reality.

What's the lie? You believe there are no statistics on defensive uses of firearms?

 

[bripat9643]

NRA and I plus the Police would tell you that a Private citizen that has a gun in his pocket has NO DUTY to protect you and your ilk Brian .

Yep. that's why everyone needs to be armed.

 

[bripat9643]

NRA and I plus the Police would tell you that a Private citizen that has a gun in his pocket has NO DUTY to protect you and your ilk Brian .

But the NRA said if only there was one armed good guy....

--------------------- as I said. the NRA reference is probably talking about Police Brian . As I also said , an armed American has no legal obligation to protect anyone with his gun Brian .

No, it's not talking about the police. This incident proves nothing in that regard since, as far as we know, there was no good guy with a gun present.

 

[JGalt]

‘Can republicans explain why the “good guy with a gun” narrative never seems to be a thing?’

No.

Because ‘good guy with a gun’ is a myth, a ridiculous contrivance of the right in a failed attempt to ‘justify’ the carrying of concealed firearms where no such ‘justification’ is needed.

I don't need to "justify" carrying a concealed weapon. I carry one because I can. Period. My federal, state, and local laws have deemed me a competent, law-abiding, and "trusted" individual, therefore I freely take advantage of a basic right my fore-bearers fought and died for.

 

[Dragonlady]

Lol and what are the so-called real news sources waiting for?

Link to these mythical real news organizations??

So in your mind, no news organization is “real” yet you believe stories of a good guy with a gun are being suppressed despite a complete lack of evidence of such a thing. You do realize how dumb you sound right?

Local news organizations run them. The corrupted lying puke national liberal media won't touch them. Go do something useful lib fix Chicago where dozens are shot each week in your liberal war zone and YOUR fake news remains silent.

There was a lot of media coverage of the guy in Homeland, Texas, who went after the church shooter there and is credited with saving a lot of lives because the shooter left the church when this guy arrived and the good guy followed him in his car when he left but he was ex-military, and knew what he was doing.

There were people with guns in the movie theatre in Aurora, Colorado, but because of the strobe lights the shooter was using, and the smoke bombs and the general chaos, they couldn't tell what was going on of even if there was mroe than one shooter.

Unless you have military/police training, it's not likely that you could take on an active shooter effectively. It's not as easy to shoot someone as they make out in the movies. And when the police arrive, how do they know you're a "good guy". You're just another asshole with a gun, shooting at people.

If you are referring to Stephen Willeford who stopped the shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, he is not "ex-military." He is a plumber and a former NRA instructor.

Stephen Willeford: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

The shooter however, was a U.S. Air Force veteran who was court martialed for domestic abuse.

The Man Who Stopped The Texas Gunman Is an NRA Member

Please get your facts straight and refrain from insulting the NRA as a worthless lobbying group who puts firearms in the hands of criminals.

My apologies. I knew he had been extensively trained. Notice that he is a "former" NRA instructor. How much of the organization is devoted to training and safety today. I've seen the NRA Network. Apocalyse Now had a sunnier view of the world. And the whole "Us versus Them" scenario, slagging teachers as tools of the state. Pure alt right fantasies. It was like something straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

I realize that the NRA started out as a training and safety organization, but that is NOT who they are today. The NRA is now wholly owned by the gun manufacturers, and their primary purpose is to sell guns. And they're doing it via fear and loathing. Frightening the gullible and the armchair warriors into thinking they need to be armed because what's going on outside their doors is dangerous.


Today, the NRA is a corrupt organization that's been infiltrated by Russian influences. How the hell did Maria Butina convince Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the jackasses that there was a Russian gun rights association in Russia, when a simple Google search would have told them that was a lie? But I digress.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

----------------------------------- its as I told you before . The gun that an Armed Citizen may carry is for HIS and his family and friends protection . Sure , he may use the gun to protect YOU but he has no legal obligation to protect you . Carrying a gun does not make a gun carrier a COP BillyB .

But the NRA told us if only one good guy with a gun was there. Wow has that been proven wrong.

Hey, dumbass.

The good guy with the gun is supposed to be you. If you’re too incompetent to be that guy call 911.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Link to these mythical real news organizations??

So in your mind, no news organization is “real” yet you believe stories of a good guy with a gun are being suppressed despite a complete lack of evidence of such a thing. You do realize how dumb you sound right?

Local news organizations run them. The corrupted lying puke national liberal media won't touch them. Go do something useful lib fix Chicago where dozens are shot each week in your liberal war zone and YOUR fake news remains silent.

There was a lot of media coverage of the guy in Homeland, Texas, who went after the church shooter there and is credited with saving a lot of lives because the shooter left the church when this guy arrived and the good guy followed him in his car when he left but he was ex-military, and knew what he was doing.

There were people with guns in the movie theatre in Aurora, Colorado, but because of the strobe lights the shooter was using, and the smoke bombs and the general chaos, they couldn't tell what was going on of even if there was mroe than one shooter.

Unless you have military/police training, it's not likely that you could take on an active shooter effectively. It's not as easy to shoot someone as they make out in the movies. And when the police arrive, how do they know you're a "good guy". You're just another asshole with a gun, shooting at people.

If you are referring to Stephen Willeford who stopped the shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, he is not "ex-military." He is a plumber and a former NRA instructor.

Stephen Willeford: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

The shooter however, was a U.S. Air Force veteran who was court martialed for domestic abuse.

The Man Who Stopped The Texas Gunman Is an NRA Member

Please get your facts straight and refrain from insulting the NRA as a worthless lobbying group who puts firearms in the hands of criminals.

My apologies. I knew he had been extensively trained. Notice that he is a "former" NRA instructor. How much of the organization is devoted to training and safety today. I've seen the NRA Network. Apocalyse Now had a sunnier view of the world. And the whole "Us versus Them" scenario, slagging teachers as tools of the state. Pure alt right fantasies. It was like something straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

I realize that the NRA started out as a training and safety organization, but that is NOT who they are today. The NRA is now wholly owned by the gun manufacturers, and their primary purpose is to sell guns. And they're doing it via fear and loathing. Frightening the gullible and the armchair warriors into thinking they need to be armed because what's going on outside their doors is dangerous.


Today, the NRA is a corrupt organization that's been infiltrated by Russian influences. How the hell did Maria Butina convince Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the jackasses that there was a Russian gun rights association in Russia, when a simple Google search would have told them that was a lie? But I digress.

Making shit up again huh.

Every range I go to is NRA certified with NRA range officers. Every competition has NRA certification. Every training course has NRA input.

Until you know what you’re talking about STFU.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Can the op explain why he's such a limp wristed bitch?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Link to these mythical real news organizations??

So in your mind, no news organization is “real” yet you believe stories of a good guy with a gun are being suppressed despite a complete lack of evidence of such a thing. You do realize how dumb you sound right?

Local news organizations run them. The corrupted lying puke national liberal media won't touch them. Go do something useful lib fix Chicago where dozens are shot each week in your liberal war zone and YOUR fake news remains silent.

There was a lot of media coverage of the guy in Homeland, Texas, who went after the church shooter there and is credited with saving a lot of lives because the shooter left the church when this guy arrived and the good guy followed him in his car when he left but he was ex-military, and knew what he was doing.

There were people with guns in the movie theatre in Aurora, Colorado, but because of the strobe lights the shooter was using, and the smoke bombs and the general chaos, they couldn't tell what was going on of even if there was mroe than one shooter.

Unless you have military/police training, it's not likely that you could take on an active shooter effectively. It's not as easy to shoot someone as they make out in the movies. And when the police arrive, how do they know you're a "good guy". You're just another asshole with a gun, shooting at people.

If you are referring to Stephen Willeford who stopped the shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, he is not "ex-military." He is a plumber and a former NRA instructor.

Stephen Willeford: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

The shooter however, was a U.S. Air Force veteran who was court martialed for domestic abuse.

The Man Who Stopped The Texas Gunman Is an NRA Member

Please get your facts straight and refrain from insulting the NRA as a worthless lobbying group who puts firearms in the hands of criminals.

My apologies. I knew he had been extensively trained. Notice that he is a "former" NRA instructor. How much of the organization is devoted to training and safety today. I've seen the NRA Network. Apocalyse Now had a sunnier view of the world. And the whole "Us versus Them" scenario, slagging teachers as tools of the state. Pure alt right fantasies. It was like something straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

I realize that the NRA started out as a training and safety organization, but that is NOT who they are today. The NRA is now wholly owned by the gun manufacturers, and their primary purpose is to sell guns. And they're doing it via fear and loathing. Frightening the gullible and the armchair warriors into thinking they need to be armed because what's going on outside their doors is dangerous.


Today, the NRA is a corrupt organization that's been infiltrated by Russian influences. How the hell did Maria Butina convince Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the jackasses that there was a Russian gun rights association in Russia, when a simple Google search would have told them that was a lie? But I digress.

No 2nd amendment in Canada?

 

[22lcidw]

Link to these mythical real news organizations??

So in your mind, no news organization is “real” yet you believe stories of a good guy with a gun are being suppressed despite a complete lack of evidence of such a thing. You do realize how dumb you sound right?

Local news organizations run them. The corrupted lying puke national liberal media won't touch them. Go do something useful lib fix Chicago where dozens are shot each week in your liberal war zone and YOUR fake news remains silent.

There was a lot of media coverage of the guy in Homeland, Texas, who went after the church shooter there and is credited with saving a lot of lives because the shooter left the church when this guy arrived and the good guy followed him in his car when he left but he was ex-military, and knew what he was doing.

There were people with guns in the movie theatre in Aurora, Colorado, but because of the strobe lights the shooter was using, and the smoke bombs and the general chaos, they couldn't tell what was going on of even if there was mroe than one shooter.

Unless you have military/police training, it's not likely that you could take on an active shooter effectively. It's not as easy to shoot someone as they make out in the movies. And when the police arrive, how do they know you're a "good guy". You're just another asshole with a gun, shooting at people.

If you are referring to Stephen Willeford who stopped the shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, he is not "ex-military." He is a plumber and a former NRA instructor.

Stephen Willeford: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

The shooter however, was a U.S. Air Force veteran who was court martialed for domestic abuse.

The Man Who Stopped The Texas Gunman Is an NRA Member

Please get your facts straight and refrain from insulting the NRA as a worthless lobbying group who puts firearms in the hands of criminals.

My apologies. I knew he had been extensively trained. Notice that he is a "former" NRA instructor. How much of the organization is devoted to training and safety today. I've seen the NRA Network. Apocalyse Now had a sunnier view of the world. And the whole "Us versus Them" scenario, slagging teachers as tools of the state. Pure alt right fantasies. It was like something straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

I realize that the NRA started out as a training and safety organization, but that is NOT who they are today. The NRA is now wholly owned by the gun manufacturers, and their primary purpose is to sell guns. And they're doing it via fear and loathing. Frightening the gullible and the armchair warriors into thinking they need to be armed because what's going on outside their doors is dangerous.


Today, the NRA is a corrupt organization that's been infiltrated by Russian influences. How the hell did Maria Butina convince Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the jackasses that there was a Russian gun rights association in Russia, when a simple Google search would have told them that was a lie? But I digress.

This is about the surveillance state and the abuses to its citizens. Abuses to citizens from citizens. And the professional abusers who are justified by their fiefdoms with massive help from those not trained and mock every citizen they can with abuse. This happens everywhere. And the stores of surveillance better wise up. For they are reaping what they sew. To me all of this is pretty satisfying. Bad things with hurricanes and natural disasters we can not do much about. But self destruction by human authoritarianism we can. You want massive government. Well this is part of the deal you made. The balance between capitalism and socialism has been surpassed. People have been destroyed. Families have been destroyed. Men have been destroyed by innuendo from women with other men helping it along. Oh it helps with crimes. Its just that it makes everything else a crime also. So to the Lake of Fire.....payback is coming. There is nowhere you can go either.

 

[Issa]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Who had a gun, shit for brains?

Las Vegas shooting, even police were hiding. And in many instances in other shootings there police and others carrying guns. Element of surprise always will cause casualties....but one should look at most countries of the world and wonder why they don't have this epidemic. Get off your high horse, and explore others countries safety measures....we import their cars, their clothes, their food, their technology maybe is time to export their approach when it comes to guns.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

 

[FA_Q2]

Worth a thousand words

 

[FA_Q2]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

This trope is getting very tiring.

The people bitching that there are not enough defensiveness usage for weapons (even though there is a lot of data to the contrary) are the exact same people demanding that people carrying leads to shootouts that endanger everyone. The doublethink here is extremely strong - the two positions are mutually exclusive.

You are an idiot if you think that any gun advocates are implying the CCW holders should be hunting for the bad guys. Strangely, the only people calling for that behavior are those that want to severely restrict the right to carry.

 

[Billy000]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Lol 11 times? Dude the point is that it isn’t an effective deterrent to mass shootings because rarely ever happens.

 

[Billy000]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

----------------------------------- its as I told you before . The gun that an Armed Citizen may carry is for HIS and his family and friends protection . Sure , he may use the gun to protect YOU but he has no legal obligation to protect you . Carrying a gun does not make a gun carrier a COP BillyB .

But the NRA told us if only one good guy with a gun was there. Wow has that been proven wrong.

Hey, dumbass.

The good guy with the gun is supposed to be you. If you’re too incompetent to be that guy call 911.

Who cares who it should be? So far mass shootings don’t get stopped by a “good guy”.

 

[Billy000]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Can the op explain why he's such a limp wristed bitch?

I know it stings when I am right and you can’t admit it. You poor thing!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Who had a gun, shit for brains?

One survivor in the El Paso shooting had a concealed gun and saved a couple of lives, but didn’t actually confront the shooter.

Walmart doesn't allow firearms, dumbass.

I see customers with guns in Walmart every time I go there.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If you care to pick up the NRA magazine "American Rifleman" you would find a column gleaned from various newapapers during the month that show an average of ten citizens who have successfully defended themselves with firearms. The obvious problem is that a single defense shooting doesn't stack up in media sensation to the occasional insane mass shooter who is always a left wing maniac and always breaks the law.

How about you link a few of those "stories" since I'm not about to give the NRA any blood money.

Yes, best to save your blood money for your girlfriend's time of the month.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Can republicans explain why the “good guy with a gun” narrative never seems to be a thing?

Because the fake news liberal media don't publish those stories.

That's because, aside from the lies posted by Republicans, gun ownership really doesn't save lives.

Canadian lies?

Your military trains here and their biggest complaint is your gun laws.