Can republicans explain why the “good guy with a gun” narrative never seems to be a thing?

[bripat9643]

Because the fake news liberal media don't publish those stories.

That's because, aside from the lies posted by Republicans, gun ownership really doesn't save lives.

It saves tens of thousands of lives every year, dumbass. Scientific studies have proven that.

No they haven’t. If guns made you safer, the US wouldn’t have the highest rates of violent crime in the first world.

Canada's is higher than the US, facts just bitch slapped your argument. Tissue?

No it's not. Americans count their violent crimes differently than the rest of the world. Someone has to be killed or hospitalized to be counted as a "violent crime" in the USA. For example, sexual assault. In Canada, if someone grabs your butt, that's counted as a "sexual assault". Americans only count it as a "sexual assault" if someone is raped - penetration is achieved. In Great Britain, if two guys get drunk and take a couple of swings at each other, that's counted as a violent crime. In the USA, it's not. I've bolded the relative sentence quote below.

Violent crime has declined sharply in the US since the mid 1990’s. While this is due to a variety of changes in enforcement, rehabilitation of criminals, and overall higher standards of living, a large portion of the similarities between the crime levels of US and western European countries hinges on differences in what crimes are reported. The FBI counts four categories of crime as violent crime: murder and non-negligible manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. While aggravated assault is the only assault category included under violent crime reports in the US, other nations include the much more numerous level 1 assault in violent crime reporting. This makes the US appear relatively less violent from a statistical perspective.

Violent Crime: The US and Abroad - Criminal Justice Degree Hub

Wrong. Armed robbery is a violent crime, even if no one gets shot.

Once again you demonstrate your total ignorance of our legal system.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Would be robber shot on the spot in Philly cell phone store
First shot takes him down guy then empties rest into him

 

[Soupnazi630]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Happens all the time

Good people with guns prevent many violent crimes everyday but such things do not make national headlines

Your op is a failure based on a false premise

 

[bripat9643]

Would be robber shot on the spot in Philly cell phone store
First shot takes him down guy then empties rest into him

Smart move. You never want to let a criminal live after you have shot him. First the police will investigate you, and then he will sue you.

 

[Dragonlady]

That's because, aside from the lies posted by Republicans, gun ownership really doesn't save lives.

It saves tens of thousands of lives every year, dumbass. Scientific studies have proven that.

No they haven’t. If guns made you safer, the US wouldn’t have the highest rates of violent crime in the first world.

Canada's is higher than the US, facts just bitch slapped your argument. Tissue?

No it's not. Americans count their violent crimes differently than the rest of the world. Someone has to be killed or hospitalized to be counted as a "violent crime" in the USA. For example, sexual assault. In Canada, if someone grabs your butt, that's counted as a "sexual assault". Americans only count it as a "sexual assault" if someone is raped - penetration is achieved. In Great Britain, if two guys get drunk and take a couple of swings at each other, that's counted as a violent crime. In the USA, it's not. I've bolded the relative sentence quote below.

Violent crime has declined sharply in the US since the mid 1990’s. While this is due to a variety of changes in enforcement, rehabilitation of criminals, and overall higher standards of living, a large portion of the similarities between the crime levels of US and western European countries hinges on differences in what crimes are reported. The FBI counts four categories of crime as violent crime: murder and non-negligible manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. While aggravated assault is the only assault category included under violent crime reports in the US, other nations include the much more numerous level 1 assault in violent crime reporting. This makes the US appear relatively less violent from a statistical perspective.

Violent Crime: The US and Abroad - Criminal Justice Degree Hub

LMAO denial.

- Rape in US 17%, Canada 20%.
- In 2011 there were 3,295 crimes per 100,000 people in the US vs 5,703 crimes per 100,000 in Canada.
- Violent crime 386 per 100,000 US and 1,153 per 100,000 Canada.

Only 4 crimes are counted by the FBI as violent crimes in the USA.

It's not "rape", it's "sexual assault". The USA, only "rape" is counted. In Canada, any unwanted touching or sexual attack is defined as "sexual assault", so our numbers appear to be higher. They're not. See my post No. 138:

Violent Crime: The US and Abroad - Criminal Justice Degree Hub

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Lol 11 times? Dude the point is that it isn’t an effective deterrent to mass shootings because rarely ever happens.

So you also can't pull your head out long enough to read the CDC study that states people use firearms for self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times a year ? Why do you want all of those people defenseless ?

 

[Billy000]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Lol 11 times? Dude the point is that it isn’t an effective deterrent to mass shootings because rarely ever happens.

So you also can't pull your head out long enough to read the CDC study that states people use firearms for self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times a year ? Why do you want all of those people defenseless ?

Those people weren’t in mass shootings you dummy. I also never said I wanted them defenseless.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Though I agree with what you mostly said. the Police aren't legally obligated to protect anyone.
Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

Yeah there is some real messed up case law regarding the police not having a duty to protect any specific individual even when that person has a protection order in place as in the case of Castle Rock vs Gonzalez, however I'm pretty sure that they don't have the leeway to just not respond to a mass shooting call to 911.

What's even more messed up is the state of Florida is attempting to convict one of the former resource officers of the Stoneman Douglas High School where the Parkland shooting took place. While i understand the anguish the parents are feeling at the loss of their children's lives in a such tragic manner, I find it irrational to attempt to hold this one person responsible for failing to do what few others if any have been able to do and that is to stop a planned ambush. And if the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no duty to protect any specific person and other law enforcement agencies have held back and not entered into a volatile and live gun fire situation, why are they attempting to hold him responsible when there is no precedent for them to do so.

Peterson actually tried to get Cruz committed under Florida's Baker law but apparently others wanted him shielded from the consequences of his acts as a "troubled youth". He, like so many of these mass shooters, left a blazing trail of violence indicators that no one other than Peterson apparently picked up on. We can not continue to be this blind or be swayed because the offender is young particularly if our laws are allowing individuals who have not yet reached the age of maturity to legally purchase lethal weapons.

Just my opinion. And notice in the article below that they never mention the name of the actual shooter until the next to last paragraph.

MIAMI — The former Florida deputy who stood outside instead of confronting the gunman during last year’s Parkland school massacre was arrested Tuesday on 11 criminal charges related to his inaction.

Broward State Attorney Mike Satz said in a statement that 56-year-old Scot Peterson faces child neglect, culpable negligence and perjury charges that carry a combined potential maximum prison sentence of nearly 100 years.

Peterson, then a Broward County deputy, was on duty as the school resource officer during the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School but never went inside while bullets were flying. Seventeen people died and 17 others were wounded in the attack.

One of the victims was 14-year-old Gina Montalto, whose father Tony Montalto said families wanted justice to be done.
Florida deputy charged for inaction during Parkland shooting​

 

[progressive hunter]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Lol 11 times? Dude the point is that it isn’t an effective deterrent to mass shootings because rarely ever happens.

So you also can't pull your head out long enough to read the CDC study that states people use firearms for self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times a year ? Why do you want all of those people defenseless ?

Those people weren’t in mass shootings you dummy. I also never said I wanted them defenseless.

how do you know dozens of mass shootings didnt happen because of a good guys with guns???
we just dont know it because they never happened,,,

 

[ABikerSailor]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Lol 11 times? Dude the point is that it isn’t an effective deterrent to mass shootings because rarely ever happens.

So you also can't pull your head out long enough to read the CDC study that states people use firearms for self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times a year ? Why do you want all of those people defenseless ?

Those people weren’t in mass shootings you dummy. I also never said I wanted them defenseless.

how do you know dozens of mass shootings didnt happen because of a good guys with guns???
we just dont know it because they never happened,,,

Absence of evidence is not proof that they are stopping mass shootings.

 

[Issa]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Who had a gun, shit for brains?

Las Vegas shooting, even police were hiding. And in many instances in other shootings there police and others carrying guns. Element of surprise always will cause casualties....but one should look at most countries of the world and wonder why they don't have this epidemic. Get off your high horse, and explore others countries safety measures....we import their cars, their clothes, their food, their technology maybe is time to export their approach when it comes to guns.

You mean countries like France, Belgium and Norway?

Yes....how many times those countries had mass shootings vs the US? SCHOOL shootings ? Synagogue, church shootings ?
Go!!!

 

[progressive hunter]

Are you purposely sticking your head up your fourth point of contact.
11 times a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, saving lives - Photos - Washington Times
That Time The CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses

Lol 11 times? Dude the point is that it isn’t an effective deterrent to mass shootings because rarely ever happens.

So you also can't pull your head out long enough to read the CDC study that states people use firearms for self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times a year ? Why do you want all of those people defenseless ?

Those people weren’t in mass shootings you dummy. I also never said I wanted them defenseless.

how do you know dozens of mass shootings didnt happen because of a good guys with guns???
we just dont know it because they never happened,,,

Absence of evidence is not proof that they are stopping mass shootings.

gets back to the you cant prove a negative thing

but common senses tells us a lot of bad things dont happen because the perp doesnt want to die doing it, or go to jail,

 

[bripat9643]

With all the carnage in Texas, you’d think someone would step forward. Of course, people with a concealed carry might think they are brave, but when it comes down to an actual public danger, they run like everyone else. Sorry, repubs, your gun only gives you a false sense of bravery.

Who had a gun, shit for brains?

Las Vegas shooting, even police were hiding. And in many instances in other shootings there police and others carrying guns. Element of surprise always will cause casualties....but one should look at most countries of the world and wonder why they don't have this epidemic. Get off your high horse, and explore others countries safety measures....we import their cars, their clothes, their food, their technology maybe is time to export their approach when it comes to guns.

You mean countries like France, Belgium and Norway?

Yes....how many times those countries had mass shootings vs the US? SCHOOL shootings ? Synagogue, church shootings ?
Go!!!

Per capita, they had more mass shootings than the USA.