Clementine
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The problems with Social Security demonstrates that liberal policies are unsustainable. People were forced into participating in SS, though initially that wasn't going to be the case. Many might have preferred to save for their own retirement. First, they made everyone pay. Then they steadily increased the amount everyone paid in. Then they started borrowing from the account. Then they started taxing the SS checks. They started giving it to people who never contributed to the fund.
The government programs have encouraged more and more people to depend on government. Now there are not enough tax payers to share the burden, so the amount each person is now responsible for is huge and it's still growing.
What if liberals hadn't come up with the idea of SS in the first place or if they had kept the promise to make it voluntary? Maybe so many wouldn't be dependent on it right now and we wouldn't be in this mess. I know the word "privatization" is considered evil to the left, but many have done far better on their own instead of automatically counting on government for their retirement. I think people stopped trying so hard to build their own nest egg when they knew there was a safety net. Never mind that government cannot handle money responsibly and that politicians are known for lying and making promises they never intend to keep, people had no choice but to pay in and had less money to invest on their own.
Look at the amount taken from your paycheck for SS and other taxes. It's disgusting that government continues to increase the amount they rob from us and all that happens is that problems get worse, causing them to keep taking more and more. We need to break this cycle.
People would faint at the thought of someone ending social security payments because the government successfully got people hooked on the idea that there is no other choice. The pathetic little amount each person gets doesn't go far and the person never gets back the same amount that they and their employer paid in. How much better would it have been for them to put the same amount they paid for SS in a retirement account? Of course, liberal balk at the idea of people actually being responsible enough to fend for themselves. The liberals know that if they can collect money from the workers under the premise of taking care of everyone, they'll get enough money to add non-contributing people to the doles and more money will be spent on those who never paid a dime. It's both wealth redistribution and a Ponzi scheme. It will come crashing down eventually. Too bad that the foolish people who started it were unable to understand the long term effects of their feel good policies.
Of course, everyone on the left will say that a 5.87% on the wealthy isn't just fair, but quite generous because the government will still allow people to keep most of their income. We all know that government is anything but generous and all about grabbing and holding onto power and control. But, once everyone agrees that it's necessary for politicians to reach their grubby paws further into peoples' pockets to keep their lofty ideas afloat, then we will continue to see the taxes rise at regular intervals. Even if the government were to take 100% of peoples' earnings, their programs would still be unsustainable, but that won't stop them from continuing to confiscate wealth and keep feeding their big mistakes until the resources run out. Before the left creates more laws citing their false claims of saving the planet, they might want to consider repealing some laws and adding common sense legislation to save the tax payers and wealth creators. We are the most endangered species right now.
The government programs have encouraged more and more people to depend on government. Now there are not enough tax payers to share the burden, so the amount each person is now responsible for is huge and it's still growing.
What if liberals hadn't come up with the idea of SS in the first place or if they had kept the promise to make it voluntary? Maybe so many wouldn't be dependent on it right now and we wouldn't be in this mess. I know the word "privatization" is considered evil to the left, but many have done far better on their own instead of automatically counting on government for their retirement. I think people stopped trying so hard to build their own nest egg when they knew there was a safety net. Never mind that government cannot handle money responsibly and that politicians are known for lying and making promises they never intend to keep, people had no choice but to pay in and had less money to invest on their own.
Look at the amount taken from your paycheck for SS and other taxes. It's disgusting that government continues to increase the amount they rob from us and all that happens is that problems get worse, causing them to keep taking more and more. We need to break this cycle.
People would faint at the thought of someone ending social security payments because the government successfully got people hooked on the idea that there is no other choice. The pathetic little amount each person gets doesn't go far and the person never gets back the same amount that they and their employer paid in. How much better would it have been for them to put the same amount they paid for SS in a retirement account? Of course, liberal balk at the idea of people actually being responsible enough to fend for themselves. The liberals know that if they can collect money from the workers under the premise of taking care of everyone, they'll get enough money to add non-contributing people to the doles and more money will be spent on those who never paid a dime. It's both wealth redistribution and a Ponzi scheme. It will come crashing down eventually. Too bad that the foolish people who started it were unable to understand the long term effects of their feel good policies.
Of course, everyone on the left will say that a 5.87% on the wealthy isn't just fair, but quite generous because the government will still allow people to keep most of their income. We all know that government is anything but generous and all about grabbing and holding onto power and control. But, once everyone agrees that it's necessary for politicians to reach their grubby paws further into peoples' pockets to keep their lofty ideas afloat, then we will continue to see the taxes rise at regular intervals. Even if the government were to take 100% of peoples' earnings, their programs would still be unsustainable, but that won't stop them from continuing to confiscate wealth and keep feeding their big mistakes until the resources run out. Before the left creates more laws citing their false claims of saving the planet, they might want to consider repealing some laws and adding common sense legislation to save the tax payers and wealth creators. We are the most endangered species right now.
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