Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

[Spare_change]

Can you accept that there's a 99% chance there's NO god?

No, but I'm pretty comfortable with the 100% belief there IS a God.

Would that be the God who murdered thousands of innocent children?

... and exactly what thousands of innocent children would this be?

which time would you like to hear about?

I got all day ... any time you would like to discuss.

 

[Spare_change]

Trust you. LOL.

Not when you show so little wisdom or knowledge.

You questioned what this means.

"We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not."

If you decided a human sacrifice from your family was required for some great purpose, would you step up or would you send your child to die?

If you are a normal parent, you will step up as you will see that as the moral and right thing to do.

Your God did the opposite so if you did the moral thing, your God obviously did the immoral thing.



You follow secular law and do not try to have your barbaric God's laws be the law of the land and that belief your view of your genocidal son murdering God's laws as being better than secular law.

Regards
DL

Perhaps you can tell me a law - any law - that doesn't have a basis in the Ten Commandments. Just pick one ---- "secular" law is a myth.

Perhaps you can name one of the ten commandments for which there is no previous version. Any one of them that is original, and had never been made law previously?

Of course, they aren't original ... haven't you been paying the least bit of attention????

When God created man, he created a moral code by which man could gain entrance into immortality only by complying with that code, in His name.

To think that the 10 commandments is, somehow, a new concept is ludicrious. It has been part of God's code since the creation of man. You watch man's evolutionary knowledge grow as he begins to grasp the depth and significance of God's word, and you want to somehow segment the 10 commandments from all that went before??

Ridiculous.

MANY religions, peoples, morals and laws are older than the concept of the Abrahamic God.

Christianity stole much of its religion from others. Christmas, the Trilogy are just a few.

So, it is your position that Christianity is the latest evolution of a commitment to God and to His teachings.

I think Christians can live with that.

 

[Vastator]

So no laws existed before the 10 Commandments? Interesting. I guess all those court documents about ancient egypt was a ruse.

No one said that all ... once again, you find it necessary to run out to the very end of the pier in order to try to justify sailing off the end of the world of logic and truth

What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments. You, on the other hand, try to deny the influence of Christianity in the structure and construction of the US.

History can't be denied - it can only be misrepresented.

Dude, my point was that some of our laws are laws that are THOUSANDS of years old. Your post premise was a fallacy.

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

well you said "any law" maybe you should be more clear.
The post before this one says What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments.
Which isnt correct. They can be traced back way before the 10 Commandments.

Perhaps the more appropriate wording would have been that " ... ALL laws in the US can be traced THROUGH the 10 commandments."

Does that make you feel better now? The facts still stand ... what is so blithely called "secular laws" all have their origin in God.

No they dont. They have their origin in the men, and laws that came previously.

 

[Spare_change]

Did we lose Spare-change?

The believe in magic question is a tough one

No, you didn't lose him ....

The magic question wasn't a tough one ... it was a stupid one.

What you so blithely call "magic" (a misnomer if ever there were one) are simply the work of God.

Do I have trouble believing in them? Nope.

You, on the other hand, try to judge these acts with your limited knowledge, and try to define them in temporal logic. Obviously, you failed. That makes them no less real.

 

[Spare_change]

No one said that all ... once again, you find it necessary to run out to the very end of the pier in order to try to justify sailing off the end of the world of logic and truth

What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments. You, on the other hand, try to deny the influence of Christianity in the structure and construction of the US.

History can't be denied - it can only be misrepresented.

Dude, my point was that some of our laws are laws that are THOUSANDS of years old. Your post premise was a fallacy.

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

well you said "any law" maybe you should be more clear.
The post before this one says What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments.
Which isnt correct. They can be traced back way before the 10 Commandments.

Perhaps the more appropriate wording would have been that " ... ALL laws in the US can be traced THROUGH the 10 commandments."

Does that make you feel better now? The facts still stand ... what is so blithely called "secular laws" all have their origin in God.

No they dont. They have their origin in the men, and laws that came previously.

Your logic fails .... what was previous to the laws that came previously? What was previous to whatever was previous to the laws that came previously? What taught the men to think of these issues?

You have no answer.

 

[Vastator]

Dude, my point was that some of our laws are laws that are THOUSANDS of years old. Your post premise was a fallacy.

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

well you said "any law" maybe you should be more clear.
The post before this one says What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments.
Which isnt correct. They can be traced back way before the 10 Commandments.

Perhaps the more appropriate wording would have been that " ... ALL laws in the US can be traced THROUGH the 10 commandments."

Does that make you feel better now? The facts still stand ... what is so blithely called "secular laws" all have their origin in God.

No they dont. They have their origin in the men, and laws that came previously.

Your logic fails .... what was previous to the laws that came previously? What was previous to whatever was previous to the laws that came previously? What taught the men to think of these issues?

You have no answer.

Hah! Wow youre a joke."What taught them"? It's this thing that some of us deal with to this very day. We call it "real life". You should try it some time.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Trust you. LOL.

Not when you show so little wisdom or knowledge.

You questioned what this means.

"We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not."

If you decided a human sacrifice from your family was required for some great purpose, would you step up or would you send your child to die?

If you are a normal parent, you will step up as you will see that as the moral and right thing to do.

Your God did the opposite so if you did the moral thing, your God obviously did the immoral thing.



You follow secular law and do not try to have your barbaric God's laws be the law of the land and that belief your view of your genocidal son murdering God's laws as being better than secular law.

Regards
DL

Perhaps you can tell me a law - any law - that doesn't have a basis in the Ten Commandments. Just pick one ---- "secular" law is a myth.

So no laws existed before the 10 Commandments? Interesting. I guess all those court documents about ancient egypt was a ruse.

No one said that all ... once again, you find it necessary to run out to the very end of the pier in order to try to justify sailing off the end of the world of logic and truth

What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments. You, on the other hand, try to deny the influence of Christianity in the structure and construction of the US.

History can't be denied - it can only be misrepresented.

Dude, my point was that some of our laws are laws that are THOUSANDS of years old. Your post premise was a fallacy.

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

Spare_change

Nonsense.

ALL US law is NOT based on christian 10 commandments.

And "all the laws of history ...?

Where do people get this crap?


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[Spare_change]

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

well you said "any law" maybe you should be more clear.
The post before this one says What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments.
Which isnt correct. They can be traced back way before the 10 Commandments.

Perhaps the more appropriate wording would have been that " ... ALL laws in the US can be traced THROUGH the 10 commandments."

Does that make you feel better now? The facts still stand ... what is so blithely called "secular laws" all have their origin in God.

No they dont. They have their origin in the men, and laws that came previously.

Your logic fails .... what was previous to the laws that came previously? What was previous to whatever was previous to the laws that came previously? What taught the men to think of these issues?

You have no answer.

Hah! Wow youre a joke."What taught them"? It's this thing that some of us deal with to this very day. We call it "real life". You should try it some time.

Argument fell apart, huh?

The best you can do is derision and personal attacks??? Guess you must have lost, huh?

 

[Spare_change]

Perhaps you can tell me a law - any law - that doesn't have a basis in the Ten Commandments. Just pick one ---- "secular" law is a myth.

So no laws existed before the 10 Commandments? Interesting. I guess all those court documents about ancient egypt was a ruse.

No one said that all ... once again, you find it necessary to run out to the very end of the pier in order to try to justify sailing off the end of the world of logic and truth

What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments. You, on the other hand, try to deny the influence of Christianity in the structure and construction of the US.

History can't be denied - it can only be misrepresented.

Dude, my point was that some of our laws are laws that are THOUSANDS of years old. Your post premise was a fallacy.

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

Spare_change

Nonsense.

ALL US law is NOT based on christian 10 commandments.

And "all the laws of history ...?

Where do people get this crap?


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Well, this is simple ------

Prove me wrong. Give me a law, any law, that isn't based in the precepts of the Bible or Ten Commandments.

Have a field day ... I'll wait here.

 

[Vastator]

well you said "any law" maybe you should be more clear.
The post before this one says What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments.
Which isnt correct. They can be traced back way before the 10 Commandments.

Perhaps the more appropriate wording would have been that " ... ALL laws in the US can be traced THROUGH the 10 commandments."

Does that make you feel better now? The facts still stand ... what is so blithely called "secular laws" all have their origin in God.

No they dont. They have their origin in the men, and laws that came previously.

Your logic fails .... what was previous to the laws that came previously? What was previous to whatever was previous to the laws that came previously? What taught the men to think of these issues?

You have no answer.

Hah! Wow youre a joke."What taught them"? It's this thing that some of us deal with to this very day. We call it "real life". You should try it some time.

Argument fell apart, huh?

The best you can do is derision and personal attacks??? Guess you must have lost, huh?

No. Its still standing strong. Yours on the other hand has been handily dismantled by myself, and other posters as well. Lost? Oh boy... What? Are you 12? In the end the only ones who lose are those too proud to admit they were wrong. Those people cease to grow. Now try posting some factual truth. Is that so hard?

 

[GreatestIam]

You blame the created for being as God created us to be. That is a cop out.

Regards
DL

He gave us free will, we had a choice, we chose wrong

But, according to scripture, shouldnt he have known in the first place? Seems an "experiment" is redundant..

To the ignorant human mind, yes.

Apparently his ignorant mind as well.. LOL

We all get to believe what we want

True. Even the lie that Yahweh and Allah are good Gods and whose satanic morals are somehow good.

Nothing quite like adoring slave masters who want sheeple instead of moral followers.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

We can think. God cannot.

We can reproduce true. God cannot.

We can have many children. God cannot.

We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not.

We would cure instead of kill. God kills.

We do not torture babies. God does.

We believe in freedom. God does not.

Jesus does which is why he took the judgement seat from His Father.

You can continue to adore a God inferior to you, both intellectually and morally, or become a Gnostic Christian or Karaite Jew like Jesus was. Jesus the Good as the Chrestians used to call him before Christianity reared it’s ugly head by reading their myths literally and embrace their God of War.

Islam would be a better religion today if that had not forced Mohammad to change from a loving God to a God or War so as to fight fire with fire. Thanks Christians for Islam. Pardon the digression.

Jesus shows the way with his advice to seek God by closeting yourself. Are you ready to follow Jesus or will you stick with your lying priests, preachers, Rabbi’s and Imams?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL

That's why I pray to Galactus. You ain't greater than him, he'd beat your ass! Eat your whole fuckin planet!

This sounds as bright as the usual Christian.

Regards
DL

But since you are not all knowing, do

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It's God's job to show, not mine

It is yours to show why you follow such a vile God.

Why do you adore a genocidal god?

You seem quick to disavow your own responsibility for how you think. You blame everyone but you.

Regards
DL

I'm telling you how Christians think.

Good. Tell us why Christians adore a genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

Regards
DL

The Christianity I'm familiar with believes that Jesus IS God, so it is viewed as a willing self sacrifice

This shows you are lying to us ---- 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.---- as well as all the times Jesus says he is doing the fathers will.

Further, God can't die, fool. Every Christian knows God is eternal. That is a big part of the Christian lies.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

So no laws existed before the 10 Commandments? Interesting. I guess all those court documents about ancient egypt was a ruse.

No one said that all ... once again, you find it necessary to run out to the very end of the pier in order to try to justify sailing off the end of the world of logic and truth

What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments. You, on the other hand, try to deny the influence of Christianity in the structure and construction of the US.

History can't be denied - it can only be misrepresented.

Dude, my point was that some of our laws are laws that are THOUSANDS of years old. Your post premise was a fallacy.

You intentionally choose to misinterpret what I posted. I merely said that all US law is based in the 10 commandments, and that the concept of "secular law" is, in a word, silly.

Now, if you wish for something else, I will tell you that all laws in the history of the world are a direct result of man's interpretation of the word of God.

Spare_change

Nonsense.

ALL US law is NOT based on christian 10 commandments.

And "all the laws of history ...?

Where do people get this crap?


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Well, this is simple ------

Prove me wrong. Give me a law, any law, that isn't based in the precepts of the Bible or Ten Commandments.

Have a field day ... I'll wait here.

Anti-slavery laws go directly against Christian and Muslim jurisprudence.

I will wait for your reply. Have a field day ...

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

You follow secular law and do not try to have your barbaric God's laws be the law of the land and that belief your view of your genocidal son murdering God's laws as being better than secular law.

Didn't say anything about me being a fan of Theocracy. Only govt I recognize IS a secular Govt. But I'm not willing to let them take my freedom or family sovereignty.

If you're all for stepping up to the greater good -- that's done ALL THE TIME without the force of man and the state. As in our volunteer military.. But I have no idea why you're all pissy about God testing Abraham with sacrificing his son. Govt USED to do that when the military was by draft. Testing families by TAKING their sons without the son's approval or the family consent.

THe 4 examples I pulled from your OP are just plain confused and wrong. And you ignore the bigger issue of which ARROGANT and IMPERFECT leaders do YOU trust to muck around in making MORAL/ETHICAL/FAMILY life decisions? Where's the competition to a simple ass Biblical Code? Name some names of the "annointed" that you trust to replace a Higher Authority. Be it as in God -- or simply as a belief in Natural Law that supercedes the faulty arrogant decisions of mere mortal men.

Following any living man, that can be argued or have discussions on his policy is better than following the dictates of an invisible guy in the sky.

That God is the lowest authority. Not the highest.

Mortal men, as Jesus said, are the light of the world.

Why do you fear to show your light and look for the light of an imaginary man made God?

If you recognize natural law, you might note that God goes against that with having Jesus needlessly murdered.

Regards
DL

There you go again with the obvious FALSE generalizations. "Following ANY living man is better..... "???

You're not even getting out of the gate here. Why do you follow David Duke?? Or Charlie Manson? Or Chuckie Schumer? Is it because of their wisdom SURPASSES anything that religious belief has to offer?

I asked for a list of WISE, CONSISTENT infallible men to follow. You never suggested any... Not even an arrogant atheist from your crowd..

It bothers you that most men will not follow a genocidal son murdering prick eh.

So wise up and join the moral crowd.

Man is supreme and your throwing supremacist groups around has no bearing on what I say of all people. Not just the colors you do not like.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

You blame the created for being as God created us to be. That is a cop out.

Regards
DL

He gave us free will, we had a choice, we chose wrong

But, according to scripture, shouldnt he have known in the first place? Seems an "experiment" is redundant..

To the ignorant human mind, yes.

Tell us why your God would create ignorant human minds.

Regards
DL

Ignorance is curable. And ignorance is not a sin. Mankind's right to Free Will is a right from a Higher Power, than secular law. We haven't gotten much smarter over the Ages, we BUILD knowledge and preserve it. And create machines that think faster and react faster to the world. THAT'S human potential. And possibly a race between US and the machines to see which becomes more god-like first.

Being as human behavior has so many flaws and inconsistencies -- I'll go with machines.

You will get your wish when demographers rule. Numbers do not lie the way our politicians do. Then again, they are only saying what their and our oligarch owners want them to say.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not.

We would cure instead of kill. God kills.

We do not torture babies. God does.

We believe in freedom. God does not.

Don't even know what the 1st claim above means. But all the rest -- are meaningless unless you define "WE".. If "WE" = atheists -- those statements are blatantly false.

NOBODY should depend on the laws of man to be fair or reasonable. History proved that time and time again. The laws of God are "fairer". If you're in a concentration camp or living in a bombed out city like Raqqa Syria -- you're NOT turning to your god of "WE" for fairness and to validate your INNATE God given freedom and Liberty.

Trust me on that.

Trust you. LOL.

Not when you show so little wisdom or knowledge.

You questioned what this means.

"We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not."

If you decided a human sacrifice from your family was required for some great purpose, would you step up or would you send your child to die?

If you are a normal parent, you will step up as you will see that as the moral and right thing to do.

Your God did the opposite so if you did the moral thing, your God obviously did the immoral thing.



You follow secular law and do not try to have your barbaric God's laws be the law of the land and that belief your view of your genocidal son murdering God's laws as being better than secular law.

Regards
DL

Perhaps you can tell me a law - any law - that doesn't have a basis in the Ten Commandments. Just pick one ---- "secular" law is a myth.

Anti-slavery laws.

Regards
DL

Once again, your lack of biblical education betrays you. I suggest you start with the treatise written by George Bourne regarding the biblical admonitions against slavery. I know, I know ... you can't keep up with everything written. (It was written in 1845) George Bourne, 1780-1845. A Condensed Anti-Slavery Bible Argument; By a Citizen of Virginia.

So, we'll call that a loss for you .... want to try again???

Do you see heaven as where you are free. Satan and 1/3 of the angels wanted a bit of freedom of thought and look at what happened.

Masters do not want thinkers and you are showing that yours is getting what he wants.

Regards
DL

 

[idb]

Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

We can think. God cannot.

We can reproduce true. God cannot.

We can have many children. God cannot.

We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not.

We would cure instead of kill. God kills.

We do not torture babies. God does.

We believe in freedom. God does not.

Jesus does which is why he took the judgement seat from His Father.

You can continue to adore a God inferior to you, both intellectually and morally, or become a Gnostic Christian or Karaite Jew like Jesus was. Jesus the Good as the Chrestians used to call him before Christianity reared it’s ugly head by reading their myths literally and embrace their God of War.

Islam would be a better religion today if that had not forced Mohammad to change from a loving God to a God or War so as to fight fire with fire. Thanks Christians for Islam. Pardon the digression.

Jesus shows the way with his advice to seek God by closeting yourself. Are you ready to follow Jesus or will you stick with your lying priests, preachers, Rabbi’s and Imams?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL

God wouldn't exist without Man.

 

[GreatestIam]

Can you accept that Man is greater than God?

We can think. God cannot.

We can reproduce true. God cannot.

We can have many children. God cannot.

We place the lives of our wives and families above our own. God does not.

We would cure instead of kill. God kills.

We do not torture babies. God does.

We believe in freedom. God does not.

Jesus does which is why he took the judgement seat from His Father.

You can continue to adore a God inferior to you, both intellectually and morally, or become a Gnostic Christian or Karaite Jew like Jesus was. Jesus the Good as the Chrestians used to call him before Christianity reared it’s ugly head by reading their myths literally and embrace their God of War.

Islam would be a better religion today if that had not forced Mohammad to change from a loving God to a God or War so as to fight fire with fire. Thanks Christians for Islam. Pardon the digression.

Jesus shows the way with his advice to seek God by closeting yourself. Are you ready to follow Jesus or will you stick with your lying priests, preachers, Rabbi’s and Imams?

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL

That's why I pray to Galactus. You ain't greater than him, he'd beat your ass! Eat your whole fuckin planet!

This sounds as bright as the usual Christian.

Regards
DL

But since you are not all knowing, do

[
It's God's job to show, not mine

It is yours to show why you follow such a vile God.

Why do you adore a genocidal god?

You seem quick to disavow your own responsibility for how you think. You blame everyone but you.

Regards
DL

I'm telling you how Christians think.

Good. Tell us why Christians adore a genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

Regards
DL

I'm still trying to figure out why God needs to be worshiped and why he is so jealous.

Sounds too human to me and unGodlike.

The evidence appears to show that man created God and not vice versa. Personally I believe there is a God gene complex. Evolution has given our brain the ability to answer the unanswerable to help to prevent insanity.

More like we know instinctively that we have a better chance at survival in a tribe, which is basically what religions are. A security blanket.

Our religious friends forget that Jesus said he came to serve, not be served, and they also forget that they are always saying Jesus is God and that God never changes his mind. They somehow go from that to us being the servant and slave.

That is how stupid their ideology and theology is.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Can you accept that there's a 99% chance there's NO god?

No, but I'm pretty comfortable with the 100% belief there IS a God.

Which God, and if the bible God, why do you like a genocidal son murdering God?

Regards
DL

I like a God who establishes the guidelines by which to attain entry into Heaven, and I like a God who is adamant about the guidelines.

Your comment is rooted in ignorance, and fertilized with bullshit spread by the left.

Yes, I see that you are brain dead and want some invisible guy in the sky to guide your every move.

Typical brain dead sheeple.

Regards
DL

Personal attack is your only refuge?

I'm sorry -- I assumed you wanted to have an intelligent discussion. My bad.

If I wanted that, I would not go where theists are, especially on moral issues.

Those who follow genocidal son murderers and think them loving and just have no moral sense.

Right?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

[

What I said was that ALL laws in the US can be traced to its roots in the 10 commandments. You, on the other hand, try to deny the influence of Christianity in the structure and construction of the US.

History can't be denied - it can only be misrepresented.

I agree with this bit.

True that Christianity has had a great influence in the U.S.

Mostly negative if you consider that it was Christians, mostly, who supported and fought for slavery.

The U.S. also has the most people in jail and abortions per capita in all of the free world.

Let's all thank the Christians and Catholics of the U.S. for what they did to the country before they became half way civilized.

Regards
DL