Canada's middle class Is better than ours. This is despite...

Bullshit. And I say this as a Canadian. Canadians outlive Americans by an average of nearly 3 years. That's how bad our healthcare is. And we pay a lot less for our healthcare insurance than you. Our full coverage family plan with supplemental and basic coverage was less than $3000 per year.

But how much do your taxes subsidies healthcare on top of what you pay?

Lifespan goes far beyond healthcare services. It includes everything such as genetics, murders, suicides, health choices, exercise, weight, automobile accidents, everything.
 
If they're making huge profits and pay nothing? When the richest end up with all the new wealth? Duh.

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay nearly 70% of all collected income taxes. By liberal standards, 70% is not enough. So what is enough to satisfy a welfare state liberal?

"How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell
Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

No, the middle class has been losing since 1970 under leftard presidents, leftard controlled house and senates, neocon presidents, neocon controlled house and senates....see a pattern here, dumb ass? The leftard clown posse talks a much better game than they play....always have. The demise of the middle class was planned by the oligarchs that really run and own this corporate entity that you lovingly refer to as your "gubermint".......
Wrong again, fool figure it out DUH:
The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 9, 2016
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts
1. As some one in business I can assure you I was not the recipient of said proceeds, they went from me to govt or some one trying to help me protect myself and my employees from govt. You don't seem to be able to grasp what a friggin nightmare it has become to try and run a business in this country. Try dealing with fed bureaucrats, state bureaucrats, county bureaucrats, local bureaucrats, inter state bueaucrats, intrastate bureaucrats, the list is endless and growing by the day. On top of that try competing with competition in your own country that hires illegals. Guess what they're not all picking lettuce. But it's OK because it makes people on the left feel warm and fuzzy.
Yup, small business gets screwed on taxes while big corps pay nothing on huge profits. You should have lobbyist and hundreds of accountants. Dem reform on this and regs blocked for eight years now. Greedy idiot Pubs have to "reform" their way, for big money insiders...

Maybe they should allow immigration reform with a good SS ID card rather than keep this farce going ANOTHER 30 years....with bs about giant walls and mass deportation for the racist dupes....
 
The Mexicans are not the problem. The problem is Reagan's tax code, which suppresses wages, while funneling wealth to the top. It's not the Democrats, although they did little to fix it, it is the GOP.

Wealth doesn't funnel anywhere. Wealth is created and then confiscated by the government which confiscates too much as it is. As long as invaders are able to come here--take our jobs and willing to do them for less money, that's what lowers wages all across the board.

Our pay is a supply and demand situation. The more supply than demand, the prices go down. The higher demand than supply, prices go up. It works almost perfectly until you throw a monkey wrench into the system such as foreigners or unions. Then the jobs no longer pay what they are worth. With unions, the jobs pay too much. With foreigners, the jobs pay too little.

Since Reagan we've had almost 16 years of Democrat presidencies. Quit trying to blame a guy that's dead and has been out of office nearly 30 years.
Still Reaganist tax rates and pander to the rich policies, defended to the death. RIP Ronnie Raygun RINO.
 
This is still a Reaganist economy, chump. WAY too much. Yes I know your tenants are whacked. They could go to training for the good jobs going begging, some corrupt party won't do it. STUPID. I know- a tax cut for the rich! Dupes.

Hike taxes on the bloated rich, lower on the rest not as much. Duh. Read something.

You think repeating the same lies over and over again makes something true? One more time:

The last time the Republicans addressed taxes for the rich, they increased them. They increased taxes for those making over 450K per year. They increased capital gains. They increased corporate tax rates.

Perhaps the problem is your public school education. So allow me to point out that "increase" means going up. And no, this has nothing to do with Reagan. He's been out of office almost 30 years now. You on the left refuse to blame yourselves which is why you keep bringing up Reagan. It's getting old and boring. If you're going to lie, at least try something new once in a while.
Pubs FINALLY allowed a 4% rise on the richest in return for pander to the rich bs...Very little help. You're right, Reagan is long dead. So stop bringing him up. At-this-point idiotic Reaganism is alive and well.. Get it?

CEOs making 300X on average the pay of the average worker is obscene Reaganism, and experts agree that high rates of 70%+ are the only cure.
 
I understand you blindly hate illegals, ignorant brainwashed hater, but that isn't going to happen. It's unAmerican, fascist in fact. So the farce GOES ON, dupe. Pubs love it...

Agreed, some do. That's why right Americans chose Trump to run for President. We do want this immigration nonsense stopped. They are changing us into a bilingual country, lowering American wages, sending US dollars back over the border, causing massive problems with illegal drugs, taking full advantage of our safety nets they didn't pay into. And then you leftists have the nerve to come here and brag about how great Canada's middle-class is and ours is sinking.
Trump knows his bs wall etc won't work or happen, only fodder for the hater dupes. Fooled again... end the war on drugs disaster, legalize and tax pot, treatment for hard drugs. ACTUALLY, 67% of illegals pay taxes and few are on welfare (easily faked papers AGAIN). Keeping up the same failed policies is RW INSANITY, hater dupe. The big orange idiot may finally give DEMS a chance for reform.
 
Pubs FINALLY allowed a 4% rise on the richest in return for pander to the rich bs...Very little help. You're right, Reagan is long dead. So stop bringing him up. At-this-point idiotic Reaganism is alive and well.. Get it?

CEOs making 300X on average the pay of the average worker is obscene Reaganism, and experts agree that high rates of 70%+ are the only cure.

Yeah, the commie experts.

What does Reagan have to do with CEO pay? Nothing. CEO pay is determined by the company and stockholders.
 
Pubs FINALLY allowed a 4% rise on the richest in return for pander to the rich bs...Very little help. You're right, Reagan is long dead. So stop bringing him up. At-this-point idiotic Reaganism is alive and well.. Get it?

CEOs making 300X on average the pay of the average worker is obscene Reaganism, and experts agree that high rates of 70%+ are the only cure.

Yeah, the commie experts.

What does Reagan have to do with CEO pay? Nothing. CEO pay is determined by the company and stockholders.
REAGANISM, EVERYTHING duh...
 
Pubs FINALLY allowed a 4% rise on the richest in return for pander to the rich bs...Very little help. You're right, Reagan is long dead. So stop bringing him up. At-this-point idiotic Reaganism is alive and well.. Get it?

CEOs making 300X on average the pay of the average worker is obscene Reaganism, and experts agree that high rates of 70%+ are the only cure.

Yeah, the commie experts.

What does Reagan have to do with CEO pay? Nothing. CEO pay is determined by the company and stockholders.

No it is not. CEO pay is determined by the Board of Directors. Such Boards are often composed of high ranking officers and directors of other large corporations, and other members of the oligarch class who are, essentially voting all of their pals raises. It's the ultimate old boys' network. Many CEO receive bonuses even when the stock declines and the company does poorly.

It is an important distinction because the stockholders merely elect the Board of Directors. Directors hire the Officers of the companies, and Directors set their pay. At the annual meeting, the stockholders are asked to ratify the actions of the Board. If the stock has performed well, such ratification is a rubber stamp.

As a corporate law clerk for most of my working life, I have set up literally thousands of corporations, prepared minutes of board meetings, and worked on deals as large as the Chrysler sale. I know exactly how corporate governance works.
 
Pub dupes. Always wrong, just like their lying greedy idiot heroes. Argh.

WTF are you talking about? You said it was Reagan. At least I got the "company" part correct.

If a road bridge would collapse somewhere, you on the left would still be blaming Reagan; just like you blamed Bush for every DumBama F-up.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland
 
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I understand you blindly hate illegals, ignorant brainwashed hater, but that isn't going to happen. It's unAmerican, fascist in fact. So the farce GOES ON, dupe. Pubs love it...

Agreed, some do. That's why right Americans chose Trump to run for President. We do want this immigration nonsense stopped. They are changing us into a bilingual country, lowering American wages, sending US dollars back over the border, causing massive problems with illegal drugs, taking full advantage of our safety nets they didn't pay into. And then you leftists have the nerve to come here and brag about how great Canada's middle-class is and ours is sinking.

The Mexicans are not the problem. The problem is Reagan's tax code, which suppresses wages, while funneling wealth to the top. It's not the Democrats, although they did little to fix it, it is the GOP.

The problem is Reagan's tax code

Sounds awful! What is Reagan's tax code, if you could explain a bit?
 
Pub dupes. Always wrong, just like their lying greedy idiot heroes. Argh.

WTF are you talking about? You said it was Reagan. At least I got the "company" part correct.

If a road bridge would collapse somewhere, you on the left would still be blaming Reagan; just like you blamed Bush for every DumBama F-up.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland
Reaganism and GOPers, numbnuts. For the 100th time.
 
I understand you blindly hate illegals, ignorant brainwashed hater, but that isn't going to happen. It's unAmerican, fascist in fact. So the farce GOES ON, dupe. Pubs love it...

Agreed, some do. That's why right Americans chose Trump to run for President. We do want this immigration nonsense stopped. They are changing us into a bilingual country, lowering American wages, sending US dollars back over the border, causing massive problems with illegal drugs, taking full advantage of our safety nets they didn't pay into. And then you leftists have the nerve to come here and brag about how great Canada's middle-class is and ours is sinking.

The Mexicans are not the problem. The problem is Reagan's tax code, which suppresses wages, while funneling wealth to the top. It's not the Democrats, although they did little to fix it, it is the GOP.

The problem is Reagan's tax code

Sounds awful! What is Reagan's tax code, if you could explain a bit?
What we have now, dingbat.
 
I understand you blindly hate illegals, ignorant brainwashed hater, but that isn't going to happen. It's unAmerican, fascist in fact. So the farce GOES ON, dupe. Pubs love it...

Agreed, some do. That's why right Americans chose Trump to run for President. We do want this immigration nonsense stopped. They are changing us into a bilingual country, lowering American wages, sending US dollars back over the border, causing massive problems with illegal drugs, taking full advantage of our safety nets they didn't pay into. And then you leftists have the nerve to come here and brag about how great Canada's middle-class is and ours is sinking.

The Mexicans are not the problem. The problem is Reagan's tax code, which suppresses wages, while funneling wealth to the top. It's not the Democrats, although they did little to fix it, it is the GOP.

The problem is Reagan's tax code

Sounds awful! What is Reagan's tax code, if you could explain a bit?
What we have now, dingbat.

How can you blame the current, 40% plus rate and code on Reagan?
He last touched the tax code in 1987, when he made the top rate 28%.

I mean an idiot could blame Reagan, so that explains you. Derp!
 
Wrong.
People are fleeing violence and death to get to Europe. People are fleeing socialist shitholes like New Zealand to get to the US. Immigrants here are among the fastest growing members of the middle class.

Exactly, they're fleeing third world shitholes. Fortunately some in Europe are taking them in. Unlike the US.

With regard to NZ, you really ought to do some research before spouting off.
Still flocking to NZ

Links with regards to immigrants becoming the fastest growing members of the middle class.
Thanks for agreeing with me!
Yes Muslims are fleeing war torn places looking for refuge, which they find in Europe
Immigrants to America are seeking prosperity, and finding it.
Do your own damn research.

I don't agree with shit. I did my own research and posted a link proving you wrong.

And when you make a claim - immigrants are finding prosperity and fasting growing middle class - it's up to you to prove it. Not me.
 
This fucking asshole's last 15 threads have the same theme. How other countries do it better than the US. Yet this sweat from a baboon's balls is still living here dreaming of a socialist utopia.....
You're a fucking doofus if you think America is best country in the world. Sure, it used to be, but it definitely isn't now. Your hard on for patriotism does nothing to change that.
I have come to the conclusion your only purpose here is to complain.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out....
 
This fucking asshole's last 15 threads have the same theme. How other countries do it better than the US. Yet this sweat from a baboon's balls is still living here dreaming of a socialist utopia.....
You're a fucking doofus if you think America is best country in the world. Sure, it used to be, but it definitely isn't now. Your hard on for patriotism does nothing to change that.
I have come to the conclusion your only purpose here is to complain.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out....
I can easily elaborate with actual facts.
 
5 is a god damn lie. If you are a working canadian making around $100k you pay approximately .54 cents of every dollar for that healthcare that you can't use for up to a year when it is a serious procedure needed. Canada has treated citizens so bad for so long now the lives of our cattle would be an improvement for them.

Bullshit. And I say this as a Canadian. Canadians outlive Americans by an average of nearly 3 years. That's how bad our healthcare is. And we pay a lot less for our healthcare insurance than you. Our full coverage family plan with supplemental and basic coverage was less than $3000 per year.
Wait a minute. You did not address the 54% tax rate the average Canadian pays.....
As far as life expectancy is concerned, who cares. We have 10 times the population. The two cannot be compared.
Your avg life expectancy has nothing to do with whether or not your country has single payer and ours does not.
US cities have a much higher violent crime rate. We are populated with a percentage of our population that engage is foolish irresponsible behavior. We cover 50 times the vehicle miles of Canada,.
Why do you bother posting here? What goes on in the US is none of your business.
 

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