Canadian middle class passes American- Thanks Reaganism...

[francoHFW]

Umm, Reagan died in 2004 and his last day in office was 1/20/89. Nobody ever accused George H. Bush of being a Reaganite but the economy stayed stable for twenty freaking years until democrats got the bright idea that they would force banks to make bad loans. Democrat Barney Frank had the responsibility for Fannie Mae which was top heavy with left wing political appointees like Jamie Garelick but the economy was still stable until Frank lied to America and Fannie collapsed. Barry Hussein has been in office for about six years. When is the radical left going to give him credit for the mess?

What a pile of crappe lol. F+F went from 75 to 25% of the real estate market in 2003 and Boooshie regulators allowed junk mortgages to be rated A+, bundled, insured and sold around the world, Rush/Fox/Beckbot. Everything you know is Pubcrappe...

As long as the wealth of the richest at least triples while the rest and the country goes to hell under voodoo, nothing will change...

What do you say of the wealthy 1% who vote Liberal and of the small business owner who is demonized for being an entrepreneur? You are an anti-Capitalist.

I'm all for them, and bs. I'm against lying, thieving, screw the workers, mega-rich Pub aholes who want to cut their own taxes, which are already way too low.

 

[francoHFW]

Most Canadian companies offer private plans as part of their compensation plans.

OBTW:

Paul Krugman Canadian healthcare - YouTube

So all universal healtrh care isn't communist? Shocking! And doesn't have anything to do with what I said...

Hey dumbass....

You said better results.

First that is s a stupid comment.....

Second..Paul got told the results were not so great.

Suck on it.

Yes, Canadians live longer. In 2007, 86% of Canadians approved their health system, 34% of Americans. Also, more than 80% of all modern countries approved their universal systems...where did they get that audience lol?

 

[freedombecki]

"The laws of economics are universal: the fact that in some countries there is so much less inequality and so much more equality of opportunity, the fact that in some countries inequality is not increasing—it is actually decreasing—is not because they have different laws of economics.

"Every aspect of our economic, legal, and social frameworks helps shape our inequality: from our education system and how we finance it, to our health system, to our tax laws, to our laws governing bankruptcy, corporate governance, the functioning of our financial system, to our anti-trust laws.

"In virtually every domain, we have made decisions that help enrich the top at the expense of the rest."

Joseph Stiglitz | Why Inequality Matters and What Can Be Done About It

How much more do the rich think they're entitled to?

I know. Keeping their own money?

The nerve!

Kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

Who said it's their money, Rich Bitch?

The Law of Moses. It clearly instructs people not to steal (including voting higher taxes against targeted groups by covetous people) and it also instructs people not to covet anything that is your neighbor's.

Keep voting to steal other people's money by taking it away by spendthrift oligarchs, and you are causing a nation to disrespect two cardinal wrongs--covetousness and theft-by-left.

Naughty, naughty!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So all universal healtrh care isn't communist? Shocking! And doesn't have anything to do with what I said...

Hey dumbass....

You said better results.

First that is s a stupid comment.....

Second..Paul got told the results were not so great.

Suck on it.

Yes, Canadians live longer. In 2007, 86% of Canadians approved their health system, 34% of Americans. Also, more than 80% of all modern countries approved their universal systems...where did they get that audience lol?

Yes, Canadians live longer.

How do non-minority Americans compare to Canadians?

 

[auditor0007]

According to a New York Times report, the rich in the US are getting richer, but the poor and middle classes are falling behind some of their Western peers.

"Middle-class incomes in Canada - substantially behind in 2000 - now appear to be higher than in the United States," David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy write. "The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans."

The UK median income is still behind that of the US, but it's catching up fast - a 19.7% increase since 2000. This is the same increase as Canada's, whereas the US number was up by only 0.3%. (It's worth noting that Germany's middle class is also stagnating - at 1.4%.)

The Times reporters based their conclusions on a survey of household incomes in about 20 countries over the course of 35 years, taking into account inflation, differences in taxes, government benefits and cost of living in different locations.

"With a big share of recent income gains in this country flowing to a relatively small slice of high-earning households, most Americans are not keeping pace with their counterparts around the world," they write.

The reporters point to three reasons why all but the wealthiest American may be falling behind:

First, educational attainment in the United States has risen far more slowly than in much of the industrialized world over the last three decades, making it harder for the American economy to maintain its share of highly skilled, well-paying jobs…

A second factor is that companies in the United States distribute a smaller share of the bounty to the middle class and poor than similar countries elsewhere…

Finally, governments in Canada and Western Europe take more aggressive steps to raise the take-home pay of low- and middle-income households by redistributing income.

The struggle for middle- and lower-class Americans is reflected in public opinion polls, the reporters write, which generally show greater dissatisfaction with their government than in other Western nations.

BBC News - Canada passes US in middle-class wealth

Could we PLEASE have the rich pay their fair share so we can invest in America and Americans? This is getting ridiculous, hater dupes. See sig pp 1...

Class envy troll thread...

The class envy meme is getting old. The middle class is working harder and earning less. That has nothing to do with envy. Honestly, the vast majority of the middle class could give a shit about the super wealthy. They are just concerned with their own circumstances, and those circumstances have been getting worse for quite some time now. What is astonishing is that so many people like yourself have been brainwashed into believing that this great transfer of wealth from the middle class to the super wealthy is a good thing for this country.

 

[Avatar4321]

The class envy meme is getting old as is the class warfare because we should not be looking at ourselves in a class mindset.

I, being a poor man, am not better or worse than my brother simply because he is rich. Nor is he better or worse than I am. We aren't different "classes" of people. We are all American citizens and have the same right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

I am not hurt because another man earns billions of dollars. Nor am I helped if he loses all his money in a day. Nor am I better than another if I earn more than him.

Poor and rich are my brothers. They have trials. They have afflictions. They have successes and triumphs.

Lets not allow people to divide us by our income for political power. Don't let pride, envy, wrath, or greed overwhelm us.

 

[Toro]

Canadians pay less than half as much for health care as we do, with better outcomes...ACA will fix that over time...
And that's ALL Obama has been able to change...chicken little dupes. Get a grip lol...

Yes, everyone one here pays 21% OF THEIR INCOME in taxes here DUH. Except the poorest, who pay 17%. IOW, Pubs are FOS. SHOCKING lol...

Most Canadian companies offer private plans as part of their compensation plans.

OBTW:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fexz8Ij-OBQ]Paul Krugman Canadian healthcare - YouTube[/ame]

Those are supplemental plans, ie private hospital rooms. It's not basic health insurance.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."-- Reagan

"You didn't built that" -- Obama

 

[Andylusion]

Canadians pay less than half as much for health care as we do, with better outcomes...ACA will fix that over time...
And that's ALL Obama has been able to change...chicken little dupes. Get a grip lol...

Yes, everyone one here pays 21% OF THEIR INCOME in taxes here DUH. Except the poorest, who pay 17%. IOW, Pubs are FOS. SHOCKING lol...

Most Canadian companies offer private plans as part of their compensation plans.

OBTW:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fexz8Ij-OBQ]Paul Krugman Canadian healthcare - YouTube[/ame]

Those are supplemental plans, ie private hospital rooms. It's not basic health insurance.

That's kind of the point though. Everyone in Canada is paying a massive amount of taxes, to fund a 'free' health care system..... and then they STILL END UP PAYING FOR INSURANCE, on top of paying for this massive gov-care system.

This is like the UK, where you find out that the rich elite have private health insurance, that skips the 5 year long wait for surgeries, and the 6 month wait to see doctors.

See nearly all socialized system end up being a two-tiered system, where the rich and wealthy get the finest and best quality treatment, and the lower 80% ends up with poor quality, massive wait times treatment.

And the reason isn't all that mystifying. There are private hospitals and private doctors in the UK. The problem is, the moment you have a socialized 'free' health care system, it automatically pushes private practice to cater to the wealthy. Well... the wealthy want the best quality, and they also want the red carpet treatment. Obviously that jacks up the price.

So socialized 'free' gov-care drives up the price of private care.

At the exact same time, the lower 80% are less able to afford private care, because they are paying out 50% of their income in taxes to pay for the gov-care.

As a result, only the super wealthy are able to afford quality health care. Everyone else is doomed to 3 month waiting lists, and dirty hospitals because budget constraints forced them to fire the cleaning staff.

Then you have leftists in other countries like Canada, where they said we want equality, so we're going to ban private practice, and for years it was illegal to open a private health care facility.

No private market. Did that prevent a two-tiered system? Nope. The rich and wealthy hopped on planes, and flew to America, or other medical tourist places, and got high quality care there, while people in Canada died after waiting 36-hours in the ER, without ever seeing a doctor.

When a woman elected member of parliament got cancer, did she wait in the 10 month line for surgery that her fellow lower-80% citizen had to? Nope, she flew to the US, and had the surgery in under a week.

Things got so bad, that the citizens sued the government for the right to have Capitalist Free-market health care. Now they have private insurance, so people can skip the train wreck of socialized gov-care.

That's the whole point. If socialism worked, if gov-care really worked, there would be no need for private health insurance at all.

 

[Listening]

Canadians pay less than half as much for health care as we do, with better outcomes...ACA will fix that over time...
And that's ALL Obama has been able to change...chicken little dupes. Get a grip lol...

Yes, everyone one here pays 21% OF THEIR INCOME in taxes here DUH. Except the poorest, who pay 17%. IOW, Pubs are FOS. SHOCKING lol...

Most Canadian companies offer private plans as part of their compensation plans.

OBTW:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fexz8Ij-OBQ]Paul Krugman Canadian healthcare - YouTube[/ame]

Those are supplemental plans, ie private hospital rooms. It's not basic health insurance.

The point being that most companies offer them. It does not say that basic health insurance is bad....it just says people feel they want something "better".

 

[Listening]

The class envy meme is getting old. The middle class is working harder and earning less. That has nothing to do with envy. Honestly, the vast majority of the middle class could give a shit about the super wealthy. They are just concerned with their own circumstances, and those circumstances have been getting worse for quite some time now. What is astonishing is that so many people like yourself have been brainwashed into believing that this great transfer of wealth from the middle class to the super wealthy is a good thing for this country.

Please provide the metrics you are utilizing to make this claim.

The last I read, the average person in "poverty" has more (in terms of material goods) than the average solid "middle class" citizen of 50 years ago.

Not that material goods mean everything. But it sure says people are not starving.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

There certainly needed to be more redistribution of wealth under reagan ...for fairness, justice, equality, righteousness and dignity. For the common good. Lol

 

[Listening]

So all universal healtrh care isn't communist? Shocking! And doesn't have anything to do with what I said...

Hey dumbass....

You said better results.

First that is s a stupid comment.....

Second..Paul got told the results were not so great.

Suck on it.

Yes, Canadians live longer. In 2007, 86% of Canadians approved their health system, 34% of Americans. Also, more than 80% of all modern countries approved their universal systems...where did they get that audience lol?

That means nothing. I've discussed health care with Canadians who hate their system but would never give it up for ours. Why ? Because of all the B.S. from people like you.

The authors conclude that while it is commonly supposed that a single-payer, publicly-funded system would deliver better health out-comes and distribute health resources more fairly than a multi-payer system with a large private component, their study does not provide support for this view. They suggest that further comparisons of the U.S. and Canadian health care systems would be useful, for example to explore whether the higher expenditures in the U.S. yield benefits that are worth their cost.

http://www.nber.org/bah/fall07/w13429.html

Next.....

34% of Americans ? You are such a troll.

66% of U.S. Residents Satisfied With Health Care System, Poll Finds

66% of U.S. Residents Satisfied With Health Care System, Poll Finds - California Healthline

And it was much higher before Obamamanic and his lying group of "you can keep your plan" assholes started up the rhetoric campaign.

BTW: Go to Real Clear....Obamacare is still down 11 points mean most people don't like it.

Move to Cuba you lazy bastard.

 

[Silhouette]

Of course the benefits to the economy of relieving the middle class of the equivalent of a second mortgage paid out each month in health premiums would be beneficial. All that money flowing out of the healthcare mogul's pockets and into creating a demand for products. Gee, I guess that would mean an increase in hiring, a larger income tax base, fewer draining the dole and small businesses immediately relieved of the burden of providing health insurance.

And all that paid for from a pool of junk food/tobacco & booze sales taxes and small co-pays on medical visits.

Such a travesty! If you want limousine care, you can still have it through an industry created just for that. Canadians have their heads screwed on straight. We do not. We are a sorry miserable nation that holds out to the world 50 million people afraid to go to the doctor because just one mishap will result in bankruptcy/foreclosure and needing to be on the dole.

Gee, what's wrong with our economy? I wonder...

 

[Listening]

Of course the benefits to the economy of relieving the middle class of the equivalent of a second mortgage paid out each month in health premiums would be beneficial. All that money flowing out of the healthcare mogul's pockets and into creating a demand for products. Gee, I guess that would mean an increase in hiring, a larger income tax base, fewer draining the dole and small businesses immediately relieved of the burden of providing health insurance.

And all that paid for from a pool of junk food/tobacco & booze sales taxes and small co-pays on medical visits.

Such a travesty! If you want limousine care, you can still have it through an industry created just for that. Canadians have their heads screwed on straight. We do not. We are a sorry miserable nation that holds out to the world 50 million people afraid to go to the doctor because just one mishap will result in bankruptcy/foreclosure and needing to be on the dole.

Gee, what's wrong with our economy? I wonder...

Please provide data on the health care moguls you reference. How much and what impact would it have.

Of course, it's O.K. to cut medicare reimubursements to the point doctors won't take them...

Not a full fledged example...but directionally seems to be consistent....

Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients - Bloomberg

More than 3,000 patients eligible for Medicare, the government’s largest health-insurance program, will be forced to pay cash if they want to continue seeing their doctors at a Mayo family clinic in Glendale, northwest of Phoenix, said Michael Yardley, a Mayo spokesman. The decision, which Yardley called a two-year pilot project, won’t affect other Mayo facilities in Arizona, Florida and Minnesota.

*************

Read the entire article......

Mayo was losing large dollars (as it reads).

There is more to this than just getting some money from the rich.

But that seems lost on everyone here.

You are right. We are screwed up. Your post is an excellent example.

 

[georgephillip]

I know. Keeping their own money?

The nerve!

Kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

Who said it's their money, Rich Bitch?

The Law of Moses. It clearly instructs people not to steal (including voting higher taxes against targeted groups by covetous people) and it also instructs people not to covet anything that is your neighbor's.

Keep voting to steal other people's money by taking it away by spendthrift oligarchs, and you are causing a nation to disrespect two cardinal wrongs--covetousness and theft-by-left.

Naughty, naughty!

"Accumulate! Accumulate! That is Moses and the Prophets."
--Karl Marx, 1867

How much did Moses steal?
tell

 

[francoHFW]

The class envy meme is getting old. The middle class is working harder and earning less. That has nothing to do with envy. Honestly, the vast majority of the middle class could give a shit about the super wealthy. They are just concerned with their own circumstances, and those circumstances have been getting worse for quite some time now. What is astonishing is that so many people like yourself have been brainwashed into believing that this great transfer of wealth from the middle class to the super wealthy is a good thing for this country.

Please provide the metrics you are utilizing to make this claim.

The last I read, the average person in "poverty" has more (in terms of material goods) than the average solid "middle class" citizen of 50 years ago.

Not that material goods mean everything. But it sure says people are not starving.

Look at actual FACTS, not Pubcrappe. The nonrich have gone to HELL under Reaganist tax rates and policy, and still are...


''The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.'


1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Researc...s/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/imag...ving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/...&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php...or-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--March 6, 2014
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/...e-roost-charts''
''

 

[francoHFW]

Hey dumbass....

You said better results.

First that is s a stupid comment.....

Second..Paul got told the results were not so great.

Suck on it.

Yes, Canadians live longer. In 2007, 86% of Canadians approved their health system, 34% of Americans. Also, more than 80% of all modern countries approved their universal systems...where did they get that audience lol?

That means nothing. I've discussed health care with Canadians who hate their system but would never give it up for ours. Why ? Because of all the B.S. from people like you.

The authors conclude that while it is commonly supposed that a single-payer, publicly-funded system would deliver better health out-comes and distribute health resources more fairly than a multi-payer system with a large private component, their study does not provide support for this view. They suggest that further comparisons of the U.S. and Canadian health care systems would be useful, for example to explore whether the higher expenditures in the U.S. yield benefits that are worth their cost.

http://www.nber.org/bah/fall07/w13429.html

Next.....

34% of Americans ? You are such a troll.

66% of U.S. Residents Satisfied With Health Care System, Poll Finds

66% of U.S. Residents Satisfied With Health Care System, Poll Finds - California Healthline

And it was much higher before Obamamanic and his lying group of "you can keep your plan" assholes started up the rhetoric campaign.

BTW: Go to Real Clear....Obamacare is still down 11 points mean most people don't like it.

Move to Cuba you lazy bastard.

I'm a retired teacher, dingbat lol.....ACTUALLY, all the tidal wave of Pub propaganda have scared people, and of course the hater dupes, who used to not approve it. Being "satisfied" is not the same thing, and of course that survey was done by a group fighting O-care...O-Care will rise to 80% like every other real system, and continue to cut costs, FINALLY we don't have a Pub SCAM of a system...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The class envy meme is getting old. The middle class is working harder and earning less. That has nothing to do with envy. Honestly, the vast majority of the middle class could give a shit about the super wealthy. They are just concerned with their own circumstances, and those circumstances have been getting worse for quite some time now. What is astonishing is that so many people like yourself have been brainwashed into believing that this great transfer of wealth from the middle class to the super wealthy is a good thing for this country.

Please provide the metrics you are utilizing to make this claim.

The last I read, the average person in "poverty" has more (in terms of material goods) than the average solid "middle class" citizen of 50 years ago.

Not that material goods mean everything. But it sure says people are not starving.

Look at actual FACTS, not Pubcrappe. The nonrich have gone to HELL under Reaganist tax rates and policy, and still are...


''The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.'


1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Researc...s/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/imag...ving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/...&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php...or-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--March 6, 2014
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/...e-roost-charts''
''

The nonrich have gone to HELL under Reaganist tax rates

We haven't been under Reagan tax rates for decades.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, Canadians live longer. In 2007, 86% of Canadians approved their health system, 34% of Americans. Also, more than 80% of all modern countries approved their universal systems...where did they get that audience lol?

That means nothing. I've discussed health care with Canadians who hate their system but would never give it up for ours. Why ? Because of all the B.S. from people like you.

The authors conclude that while it is commonly supposed that a single-payer, publicly-funded system would deliver better health out-comes and distribute health resources more fairly than a multi-payer system with a large private component, their study does not provide support for this view. They suggest that further comparisons of the U.S. and Canadian health care systems would be useful, for example to explore whether the higher expenditures in the U.S. yield benefits that are worth their cost.

Comparing the U.S. and Canadian Health Care Systems

Next.....

34% of Americans ? You are such a troll.

66% of U.S. Residents Satisfied With Health Care System, Poll Finds

66% of U.S. Residents Satisfied With Health Care System, Poll Finds - California Healthline

And it was much higher before Obamamanic and his lying group of "you can keep your plan" assholes started up the rhetoric campaign.

BTW: Go to Real Clear....Obamacare is still down 11 points mean most people don't like it.

Move to Cuba you lazy bastard.

I'm a retired teacher, dingbat lol.....ACTUALLY, all the tidal wave of Pub propaganda have scared people, and of course the hater dupes, who used to not approve it. Being "satisfied" is not the same thing, and of course that survey was done by a group fighting O-care...O-Care will rise to 80% like every other real system, and continue to cut costs, FINALLY we don't have a Pub SCAM of a system...

O-Care will rise to 80% like every other real system, and continue to cut costs,

LOL! It's obvious you weren't a math or economics teacher.....or one with common sense.