Capitalism is always better, innit?

[francoHFW]

Socialism as understood by everyone in the world except in GOP Dupe world is just fair capitalism with a good safety net. Which we do not have after 35 years of GOP giveaway to the rich and Cuts in services for for everyone else. We now have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in our history, dumbass Dupe. And we are the only developed country without Healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training living wage good infrastructure and vacations, ID card to end illegal immigration, etc etc. We no longer have the greatest generation or unions to protect us from greedy idiot a******scumbag GOP and its silly dupes like you, so we need government intervention and regulation in business and industry. That is called socialism, Dupe.

 

[Dana7360]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

Show me a socialist country that is better than the US.

And after you have shown it. What's keeping you here?

How many countries are actually, really, truly socialist?

Not many. Cuba might be the only one.

China claims to be Communist but is at best not that Socialist.

The USSR was Socialist to a large degree.

But then again we can find Capitalist countries that suck.

HOWEVER, this thread isn't a Socialist countries v. Capitalist countries thread.

It's that sometimes Capitalism isn't the best thing. That doesn't mean that full bang on Socialism is also the best.

You're trying to have an intelligent conversation with a person who doesn't have the proper information or intelligence to be capable of doing that.

So what that person has done is gone to the extreme and brought in something that has nothing to do with this conversation in order to change the subject and discredit what the thread is actually about.

All successful nations have economies that are a combination of socialism and capitalism.

This thread is about how unregulated capitalism harms societies.

The prisons in Louisiana are private prisons. Paid with tax dollars. A system that fills the prisons with people who don't belong there and encourages recidivism at a very high rate. For the only reason to keep those prisons full so rich people can get even richer on our tax dollars.

It's a huge waste and abuse of our system and tax dollars.

Prisons should never be a for profit private system. It's just a prescription for fraud, waste, theft, abuse and graft.

Prisons should be government owned and run. It's cheaper and doesn't come with all the corruption that comes with private prisons.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And

America is part socialist. Pretty much everywhere is.
You have medicaid,welfare,schools,libraries and stuff.

Agreed that Medicaid and welfare are socialistic giveaway programs. Not sure that schools and libraries are socialistic. Believe it or not, socialism doesn't simply mean "the government does stuff".

Welfare and health are not give aways.We fund them through the tax system. Nothing is free.

They're giveaways, because they operate by taxing people who don't use them, and they're used by people who - by definition - aren't paying for them. I can call them "redistribution", if you prefer. I wasn't sure that wouldn't be too many syllables for you.

That's socialism though. You have a group of people, all of which are contained under the umbrella of the service, and all of which receive from that pool. It obviously ends up being where a minority of people end up putting in the majority of the value and therefore get less value out of it. That's the definition of socialism really. So yes, something like Social Security is a socialist endeavor, strictly speaking. Socialism is redistribution of assets.

The argument that the pro-socialism people are making is that that's a good thing in some instances in the name of compassion and taking care of people. It's forced charity. Charity = good, therefore forcing someone at gunpoint to be charitable = good. The ends justify the means. It's about that simple.

Yet, i'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who is for making all schooling private. Meaning, you have to pay for kindergarten through high school out of your own pocket. Sure, you'd save a smidge on taxes, but for those below the middle class, you'd have over half the population being illiterate or completely devoid of schooling. Can anyone make a really good argument for school being completely privatized and the government not funding it?

Are you willing to let someone die in the streets cause he got cancer through no fault of his own in order to save on your taxes? Are you willing to let millions of kids grow up illiterate and in abject poverty because they have no access to education in order to save on some taxes? It's all about where you draw that line. As bad as socialism is, anarchy is the other extreme and it's just as bad. What everyone argues over is where the line is to be drawn.

And there are some things that the state can do better than the private sector. Health,Defence and education being good examples. But then nobody wants to see a state run burger bar.

Wrong. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that "the state" does health OR education better than the private sector, and quite a bit of evidence to suggest that it does it worse.

The deciding factor - other than whether or not it's listed as the purview of the government in the Constitution, or in the state Constitution, in the case of state government; I know how little you leftists value such things - is whether something MUST be done by the people as a community ON THAT LEVEL OF COMMUNITY.

I have absolutely no problem with the idea of communities on the local and even state level making provisions for everyone to get a basic education, so long as they recognize that the final arbiters on children are the parents. There is no reason whatsoever that education is something that needs to be addressed communally on the national level.

I recognize that there are certain aspects of health that are matters of community concern: epidemics and the prevention of same, for example. But the general, everyday health and well-being of people who are not my family? I do not give a furry rat's ass; that is strictly a personal concern for that individual.

 

[kaz]

Yahoo is now part of Oath

The UK govt has taken over a G4S prison because the G4S couldn't run it properly.

"He wrote: "It was often difficult to find officers, although we did find some asleep during prisoner lock-up periods."

Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report

"
Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report"

"Commuters have suffered almost two years of disruption and delay on the rail network, a situation that has been exacerbated by strikes since last April. "

Louisiana, Prisons for Profit, and World's Highest Incarceration Rate

Louisiana's private prison system is the envy of nobody anywhere. It's a system that encourages reoffending, because it earns the prisons more money.

Yep, capitalism is always best... except when it isn't.

It's sad how someone can be born and grow up in America and not have a fucking clue what capitalism even is.

Capitalism is not government outsourcing to private companies. Capitalism is free markets. Prisons and public transportation are government functions. Just because government outsources it to contractors doesn't make it remotely capitalism.

You can't have competing free market prisons or public rail. That's why they are government functions.

You're proving how bad socialism is. Only government can do those things, yet as you point out government sucks at doing those too.

People like you are the ones who just completely and utterly leave me despondent as to the future of our country. How can you possibly know so little about what made your own country so great? It's truly sad

Youre also disappointing.
Private prisons are crony capitalism.
and they're up 100 percent under trump.

The definition of Trump administration: Cronyism is the practice of partiality in awarding jobs and other advantages to friends, family relatives or trusted colleagues,

Dude, it's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.

Socialism is central economic planning, government. Capitalism is distributed economic planning. AKA free markets, where market participants make their own decisions for their own interest. Capitalism is economic freedom. Suppliers, consumers, employers, employees, all market participants make their own choices.

Crony capitalism is when government chooses market winners. That is SOCIALISM, hombre. Think about it. But do a lot of stretching first. You don't want to hurt yourself, you're not used to it.

And prisons and mass transit are GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. They are not crony capitalism. Government is the only customer. Government is not picking market winners like crony capitalism. There is no market, there is one customer. It's just government outsourcing it's own job. Geez man.

It's just sad that you don't know crap about economics, not even the most basic concepts

 

[dudmuck]

Yahoo is now part of Oath

The UK govt has taken over a G4S prison because the G4S couldn't run it properly.

"He wrote: "It was often difficult to find officers, although we did find some asleep during prisoner lock-up periods."

Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report

"
Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report"

"Commuters have suffered almost two years of disruption and delay on the rail network, a situation that has been exacerbated by strikes since last April. "

Louisiana, Prisons for Profit, and World's Highest Incarceration Rate

Louisiana's private prison system is the envy of nobody anywhere. It's a system that encourages reoffending, because it earns the prisons more money.

Yep, capitalism is always best... except when it isn't.

It's sad how someone can be born and grow up in America and not have a fucking clue what capitalism even is.

Capitalism is not government outsourcing to private companies. Capitalism is free markets. Prisons and public transportation are government functions. Just because government outsources it to contractors doesn't make it remotely capitalism.

You can't have competing free market prisons or public rail. That's why they are government functions.

You're proving how bad socialism is. Only government can do those things, yet as you point out government sucks at doing those too.

People like you are the ones who just completely and utterly leave me despondent as to the future of our country. How can you possibly know so little about what made your own country so great? It's truly sad

Youre also disappointing.
Private prisons are crony capitalism.
and they're up 100 percent under trump.

The definition of Trump administration: Cronyism is the practice of partiality in awarding jobs and other advantages to friends, family relatives or trusted colleagues,

Dude, it's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.

Socialism is central economic planning, government.
Capitalism is distributed economic planning. AKA free markets, where market participants make their own decisions for their own interest. Capitalism is economic freedom. Suppliers, consumers, employers, employees, all market participants make their own choices.

Crony capitalism is when government chooses market winners. That is SOCIALISM, hombre. Think about it. But do a lot of stretching first. You don't want to hurt yourself, you're not used to it.

And prisons and mass transit are GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. They are not crony capitalism. Government is the only customer. Government is not picking market winners like crony capitalism. It's just government outsourcing it's own job. Geez man.

It's just sad that you don't know crap about economics, not even the most basic concepts

Sigh, i suppose you need to read the actual definition.

Additionally, how private prisons are crony capitalism.

 

[kaz]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

He gave examples of government outsourcing government functions to a private business. That has zero to do with capitalism. It's still socialism. Companies that bid on government contracts are following government specs. They aren't making any free market decisions. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Free markets are companies that create a better mouse trap. They aren't companies that build a mouse trap to government specifications.

Yes, actually making your own choice is ALWAYS better than a politician making your choice for you

Privatisation is the polar opposite of socialism. Its a free hit for private companies. If they screw up the state will always step back in and rescue them because these services cant be allowed to fail.

There are businesses that the state has no reason to be involved in.But there are also businesses that the state should either run or control very tightly.

Not only is that bull crap, but it's totally inane.

Socialism - government ownership of industry

Tommy - the opposite of that is private industry which is under complete government control

No, moron. The opposite of that is government not running the economy. Capitalism

 

[kaz]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

He gave examples of government outsourcing government functions to a private business. That has zero to do with capitalism. It's still socialism. Companies that bid on government contracts are following government specs. They aren't making any free market decisions. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Free markets are companies that create a better mouse trap. They aren't companies that build a mouse trap to government specifications.

Yes, actually making your own choice is ALWAYS better than a politician making your choice for you

Privatisation is the polar opposite of socialism. Its a free hit for private companies. If they screw up the state will always step back in and rescue them because these services cant be allowed to fail.

There are businesses that the state has no reason to be involved in.But there are also businesses that the state should either run or control very tightly.

Socialism is too broad of a term to say that its the opposite of privatization.
Worker cooperatives are socialism, but ownership is still private.
Employee stock ownership programs (ESOPs) are socialism, but are still privately owned.
In otherwords, everybody is a capitalist.

On the other side of the spectrum, you have state capitalism, as described in Ian Bremmer's book.

You two debating capitalism is hilarious. Ray Charles walking along the edge of a cliff holding hands with Stevie Wonder ...

 

[kaz]

Yahoo is now part of Oath

The UK govt has taken over a G4S prison because the G4S couldn't run it properly.

"He wrote: "It was often difficult to find officers, although we did find some asleep during prisoner lock-up periods."

Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report

"
Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report"

"Commuters have suffered almost two years of disruption and delay on the rail network, a situation that has been exacerbated by strikes since last April. "

Louisiana, Prisons for Profit, and World's Highest Incarceration Rate

Louisiana's private prison system is the envy of nobody anywhere. It's a system that encourages reoffending, because it earns the prisons more money.

Yep, capitalism is always best... except when it isn't.

It's sad how someone can be born and grow up in America and not have a fucking clue what capitalism even is.

Capitalism is not government outsourcing to private companies. Capitalism is free markets. Prisons and public transportation are government functions. Just because government outsources it to contractors doesn't make it remotely capitalism.

You can't have competing free market prisons or public rail. That's why they are government functions.

You're proving how bad socialism is. Only government can do those things, yet as you point out government sucks at doing those too.

People like you are the ones who just completely and utterly leave me despondent as to the future of our country. How can you possibly know so little about what made your own country so great? It's truly sad

Youre also disappointing.
Private prisons are crony capitalism.
and they're up 100 percent under trump.

The definition of Trump administration: Cronyism is the practice of partiality in awarding jobs and other advantages to friends, family relatives or trusted colleagues,

Dude, it's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.

Socialism is central economic planning, government.
Capitalism is distributed economic planning. AKA free markets, where market participants make their own decisions for their own interest. Capitalism is economic freedom. Suppliers, consumers, employers, employees, all market participants make their own choices.

Crony capitalism is when government chooses market winners. That is SOCIALISM, hombre. Think about it. But do a lot of stretching first. You don't want to hurt yourself, you're not used to it.

And prisons and mass transit are GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. They are not crony capitalism. Government is the only customer. Government is not picking market winners like crony capitalism. It's just government outsourcing it's own job. Geez man.

It's just sad that you don't know crap about economics, not even the most basic concepts

Sigh, i suppose you need to read the actual definition.

Additionally, how private prisons are crony capitalism.

Again, crony capitalism is socialism and it's when government picks market winners. Capitalism is when government doesn't pick market winners.

So if you want to stretch the definition and argue it's one form of government control over another, whatever. Have it your way. In the end, it's government either way. I'm not going to argue word parsing with you since there's no difference

 

[basquebromance]

i'm stinking rich. thanks, capitalism!

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yahoo is now part of Oath

The UK govt has taken over a G4S prison because the G4S couldn't run it properly.

"He wrote: "It was often difficult to find officers, although we did find some asleep during prisoner lock-up periods."

Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report

"
Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report"

"Commuters have suffered almost two years of disruption and delay on the rail network, a situation that has been exacerbated by strikes since last April. "

Louisiana, Prisons for Profit, and World's Highest Incarceration Rate

Louisiana's private prison system is the envy of nobody anywhere. It's a system that encourages reoffending, because it earns the prisons more money.

Yep, capitalism is always best... except when it isn't.

It's sad how someone can be born and grow up in America and not have a fucking clue what capitalism even is.

Capitalism is not government outsourcing to private companies. Capitalism is free markets. Prisons and public transportation are government functions. Just because government outsources it to contractors doesn't make it remotely capitalism.

You can't have competing free market prisons or public rail. That's why they are government functions.

You're proving how bad socialism is. Only government can do those things, yet as you point out government sucks at doing those too.

People like you are the ones who just completely and utterly leave me despondent as to the future of our country. How can you possibly know so little about what made your own country so great? It's truly sad

Youre also disappointing.
Private prisons are crony capitalism.
and they're up 100 percent under trump.

The definition of Trump administration: Cronyism is the practice of partiality in awarding jobs and other advantages to friends, family relatives or trusted colleagues,

Dude, it's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.

Socialism is central economic planning, government.
Capitalism is distributed economic planning. AKA free markets, where market participants make their own decisions for their own interest. Capitalism is economic freedom. Suppliers, consumers, employers, employees, all market participants make their own choices.

Crony capitalism is when government chooses market winners. That is SOCIALISM, hombre. Think about it. But do a lot of stretching first. You don't want to hurt yourself, you're not used to it.

And prisons and mass transit are GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. They are not crony capitalism. Government is the only customer. Government is not picking market winners like crony capitalism. It's just government outsourcing it's own job. Geez man.

It's just sad that you don't know crap about economics, not even the most basic concepts

Sigh, i suppose you need to read the actual definition.

Additionally, how private prisons are crony capitalism.

"I'm going to educate you. Look, here's Wikipedia."



Have you ever heard of these things called "dictionaries"?

Definition of SOCIALISM

Oh, hey, wow. Look at that. Kaz was right.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

He gave examples of government outsourcing government functions to a private business. That has zero to do with capitalism. It's still socialism. Companies that bid on government contracts are following government specs. They aren't making any free market decisions. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Free markets are companies that create a better mouse trap. They aren't companies that build a mouse trap to government specifications.

Yes, actually making your own choice is ALWAYS better than a politician making your choice for you

Privatisation is the polar opposite of socialism. Its a free hit for private companies. If they screw up the state will always step back in and rescue them because these services cant be allowed to fail.

There are businesses that the state has no reason to be involved in.But there are also businesses that the state should either run or control very tightly.

Not only is that bull crap, but it's totally inane.

Socialism - government ownership of industry

Tommy - the opposite of that is private industry which is under complete government control

No, moron. The opposite of that is government not running the economy. Capitalism

If the government tells you what you can and can't do with your property, then it's not your property, no matter whose name is on the deed.

 

[Muhammed]

Not many, because it has been the observation that socialism is a catastrophic failure everywhere where it's been tried. Yet you are cheering for it here, because you are a jackass.

Captialism has been a catastrophic failure in most of the places it's been tried, in case you missed 1929 and 2008, among others.

Capitalism has been very, very good to me.

How have them rubles been doing for you?

 

[francoHFW]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

He gave examples of government outsourcing government functions to a private business. That has zero to do with capitalism. It's still socialism. Companies that bid on government contracts are following government specs. They aren't making any free market decisions. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Free markets are companies that create a better mouse trap. They aren't companies that build a mouse trap to government specifications.

Yes, actually making your own choice is ALWAYS better than a politician making your choice for you

Privatisation is the polar opposite of socialism. Its a free hit for private companies. If they screw up the state will always step back in and rescue them because these services cant be allowed to fail.

There are businesses that the state has no reason to be involved in.But there are also businesses that the state should either run or control very tightly.

Not only is that bull crap, but it's totally inane.

Socialism - government ownership of industry

Tommy - the opposite of that is private industry which is under complete government control

No, moron. The opposite of that is government not running the economy. Capitalism

Socialism... Ownership OR regulation of Industry by the community. Big difference. You're talking about communism, super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

He gave examples of government outsourcing government functions to a private business. That has zero to do with capitalism. It's still socialism. Companies that bid on government contracts are following government specs. They aren't making any free market decisions. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Free markets are companies that create a better mouse trap. They aren't companies that build a mouse trap to government specifications.

Yes, actually making your own choice is ALWAYS better than a politician making your choice for you

Privatisation is the polar opposite of socialism. Its a free hit for private companies. If they screw up the state will always step back in and rescue them because these services cant be allowed to fail.

There are businesses that the state has no reason to be involved in.But there are also businesses that the state should either run or control very tightly.

Not only is that bull crap, but it's totally inane.

Socialism - government ownership of industry

Tommy - the opposite of that is private industry which is under complete government control

No, moron. The opposite of that is government not running the economy. Capitalism

Socialism... Ownership OR regulation of Industry by the community. Big difference. You're talking about communism, super duper.

Communism is Pure socialism. Doesn't work, even worse than pure capitalism.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

He gave examples of government outsourcing government functions to a private business. That has zero to do with capitalism. It's still socialism. Companies that bid on government contracts are following government specs. They aren't making any free market decisions. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Free markets are companies that create a better mouse trap. They aren't companies that build a mouse trap to government specifications.

Yes, actually making your own choice is ALWAYS better than a politician making your choice for you

Privatisation is the polar opposite of socialism. Its a free hit for private companies. If they screw up the state will always step back in and rescue them because these services cant be allowed to fail.

There are businesses that the state has no reason to be involved in.But there are also businesses that the state should either run or control very tightly.

Not only is that bull crap, but it's totally inane.

Socialism - government ownership of industry

Tommy - the opposite of that is private industry which is under complete government control

No, moron. The opposite of that is government not running the economy. Capitalism

I think we re at cross purposes here. Privatisation is where the government sells off public owned businesses to the private sector. thatcher was a big fan of this.
Two years ago the Royal Mail was privatised. Since then the drectors have seen their salaries explode and they are selling off all of their land to finance this. They are milking a monopoly.

 

[dudmuck]

Yahoo is now part of Oath

The UK govt has taken over a G4S prison because the G4S couldn't run it properly.

"He wrote: "It was often difficult to find officers, although we did find some asleep during prisoner lock-up periods."

Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report

"
Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report"

"Commuters have suffered almost two years of disruption and delay on the rail network, a situation that has been exacerbated by strikes since last April. "

Louisiana, Prisons for Profit, and World's Highest Incarceration Rate

Louisiana's private prison system is the envy of nobody anywhere. It's a system that encourages reoffending, because it earns the prisons more money.

Yep, capitalism is always best... except when it isn't.

It's sad how someone can be born and grow up in America and not have a fucking clue what capitalism even is.

Capitalism is not government outsourcing to private companies. Capitalism is free markets. Prisons and public transportation are government functions. Just because government outsources it to contractors doesn't make it remotely capitalism.

You can't have competing free market prisons or public rail. That's why they are government functions.

You're proving how bad socialism is. Only government can do those things, yet as you point out government sucks at doing those too.

People like you are the ones who just completely and utterly leave me despondent as to the future of our country. How can you possibly know so little about what made your own country so great? It's truly sad

Youre also disappointing.
Private prisons are crony capitalism.
and they're up 100 percent under trump.

The definition of Trump administration: Cronyism is the practice of partiality in awarding jobs and other advantages to friends, family relatives or trusted colleagues,

Dude, it's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.

Socialism is central economic planning, government.
Capitalism is distributed economic planning. AKA free markets, where market participants make their own decisions for their own interest. Capitalism is economic freedom. Suppliers, consumers, employers, employees, all market participants make their own choices.

Crony capitalism is when government chooses market winners. That is SOCIALISM, hombre. Think about it. But do a lot of stretching first. You don't want to hurt yourself, you're not used to it.

And prisons and mass transit are GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. They are not crony capitalism. Government is the only customer. Government is not picking market winners like crony capitalism. It's just government outsourcing it's own job. Geez man.

It's just sad that you don't know crap about economics, not even the most basic concepts

Sigh, i suppose you need to read the actual definition.

Additionally, how private prisons are crony capitalism.

"I'm going to educate you. Look, here's Wikipedia."



Have you ever heard of these things called "dictionaries"?

Definition of SOCIALISM

Oh, hey, wow. Look at that. Kaz was right.

Dictionaries use only an abbreviated definition.
Such topics as this require encyclopedia.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Socialism... Ownership OR regulation of Industry by the community. Big difference.

Both result in the control of private capital investment. Not good.

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

We don't know all the details of those examples. The train example shows what happens when the government enforces union membership. That's hardly an example of pure capitalism at work. All three examples included significant government involvement. Try producing an example of pure free enterprise that sucks. You can't do it.

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Yes, we've done a wonderful job of punishing Venezeula for 18 years now for picking a form of government we don't like.

So you're blaming the US for Venezuela's economic fiasco? Really?

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism is always better than Venezuela. Come back to me when you don't have access to toilet paper and have to eat the family pets if not children to survive.

Also, feel free to get the fck out of our nation. This nation is capitalist, read the constitution. There are plenty of shit holes to choose from for you. Instead of wanting to make the country in your miserable sorry ass image, go to a country that already is that way.

Capitalism is not always better. He has given you examples of that. Why do you feel the need to show how uncouth you are ?

Show me a socialist country that is better than the US.

And after you have shown it. What's keeping you here?

Better in what sense ?

Better standard of living. More freedom.