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Since the Trabants were made by capitalist East Germans, then the people never had any say.
The people have no say under capitalism? How many Trabants did the people demand last year?
When capitalists are not restrained, they use force to destroy competition while remaining inefficient.
Walmart became the largest retailer while remaining less efficient than Kmart?
How does a smaller retailer use force to destroy a larger retailer?
What royal family was Sam Walton from?
The Trabant was a very good car design for the 1950s when designed.
It is still popular.
But it is not a profitable car to make because it is not flashy, so the capitalists killed it.
It lasts too long, is too inexpensive to own, and can't charge more for wasteful things like a powerful engine or automatic tranny.
The people want cars like the Trabant but the capitalists instead want to sell them more profitable cars.
That is silly because capitalists ARE restrained in the US by antitrust and other laws.
You don't think the wealthy in the US do not pull strings to manipulate elections, media, lobby lawmakers, etc.?
But it is not a profitable car to make because it is not flashy, so the capitalists killed it.
It wasn't profitable? Then why did the East German capitalists make it?
So they can't use force to destroy competition while remaining inefficient?
Then why did you mention force? Are you stoned?
Sam Walton pulled strings etc, when he owned a single Ben Franklin store?
How many strings did he have to pull to become the biggest retailer?
Why didn't the bigger retailers pull more strings to stop him?
NopeSocialist have a much BETTER handle on resource allocation than capitalists ever could.
First of all, both have the exact same source of information, the people stocking shelves, who know what is moving and what is not.
Second is that the socialist can do what is necessary to create not only the needed products, but the infrastructure to keep it most efficient.
While capitalists don't care, will switch to what ever is most profitable instead of useful, and will sell bad products if they can get away with it.
Capitalists are automatically extremely inefficient because their goal is to put every other producer out of business, costing the society huge amounts of money, as people then have to be fired and plants closed.
The USSR has NOTHING to do with socialism, but was Stalinist state capitalism, where oligarchs try to gain wealth by forcing inferior products on people.
The Trabant was originally make in order to produce a cheap product, like all European cars after the war.
I never said that capitalist don't use force, I just said there are laws against using force against competition in the US, so they have to do it surreptitiously, like Bill Gates does.
The Waltons likely did not do it themselves, but instead allowed themselves to be used as a puppet, by manufacturers in China.
Nope
For there to be communism or socialism, the people who are producing the excess production that can go into public enterprise, then have to equally share the rewards.
I never said that capitalist don't use force,
You said if unrestrained, they would use force.
So where did they use force, if not in the US?
so they have to do it surreptitiously, like Bill Gates does.
Bill Gates uses force, surreptitiously?
Tell me more!!
The Chinese manufacturers used force to make Walmart the largest retailer? How?
In what nation are producers equally sharing the rewards?
The meaning of "they would use force if unrestrained" means you try to prevent their use of force. That does not mean you succeed.
One of the techniques Bill Gates used is known as buying self space.
That is something only an established producer can leverage.
But what Microsoft did was to buy shelf space with distributers, wholesalers and retailers.
It can be an outright bribe, where Microsoft says that if you do not sell competitors, we give you a bonus.
Or is can be a threat, like if you see competitor products, then you can't sell our products any more.
Another thing Microsoft did was try to destroy the web browser competition by giving away their web browser for free and bundling it with Windows,
Fortunately the consumers disliked Explorer so much, that did not fly.
Europe also sued them.
One way is to use slave labor to lower prices beyond what anyone else can
