Case closed, Zimmerman's a gonner

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Witness 13 didn't see any of it.

didnt see any of what

and besides that do you even know what

res gestae is

He didn't see any of the incident, he came outside after the shooting. And I think so.

witness 13 he did see the condition of zimmerman

his wife took the pictures

if you understand res gestae then you would understand the

importance of witness 12 other then seeing the incident happen
 
whats so funny Tubby? You think 2nd degree murder is a joke? We have a u.s. citizen that was stalked and gunned down by someone who was not a police officer. Turns out the deceased was guilty of minding his own business as well.
 
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zimmerman said ok and stopped as well

however that was said outside of the car

just as it says we dont need you to do that

there was not mention by dispatch to

remain in the car

there are 4 requests by dispatch requesting assistance by zimmerman

prior to the we dont need you to do that

this will come into play in court

No, he didn't stop after the 911 operator told him "We don't need you to do that." He continued to follow Trayvon and was even running after him after he was told "We don't need you to do that."

post the evidence of that

Post evidence?

Trayvon Martin is dead.

What more "evidence" do you need?
 
didnt see any of what

and besides that do you even know what

res gestae is

He didn't see any of the incident, he came outside after the shooting. And I think so.

witness 13 he did see the condition of zimmerman

his wife took the pictures

if you understand res gestae then you would understand the

importance of witness 12 other then seeing the incident happen

What do you think is the importance of witness 12?
 
Jake! I don't know shit about your life outside of USMB. Perhaps you are in a position where you can make accusations and assertions and are not challenged. You asserted that Zimmerman was told to stay in his vehicle. You were challenged. You owe us a quote or and admission of your lie.

But you, dishonest fuck you are, when cornered, accuse others of lying. You can't support that with facts either. What's next. Are you going to call me a racist? I'm waiting with baited breath.

How ARE you going to try to worm your way out of THIS one?

Just out of curiousity, how do you interpret "We don't need you to do that." This is a serious question. Given the overall situation at that time, how do you interpret "We don't need you to do that." What's the fair and honest interpretation of that, which was told to George by the 911 operator.

just as it says we dont need you to do that

zimmerman said ok and stopped as well

however that was said outside of the car

there was not mention by dispatch to

remain in the car

there are 4 requests by dispatch requesting assistance by zimmerman

prior to the we dont need you to do that

this will come into play in court

BTW you didn't interpret what you think "We don't need you to do that" means. Interpret means to say what you think that statement suggests. The jury will certainly look at it closely and they will interpret it. I think it means the 911 operator is not in a position to issue an outright order but is saying what is suggested as the most reasonable way to behave. That he is suggesting Zimmerman should not follow Trayvon and leave this to the police. Had he obeyed, Trayvon would still be alive. And yes, he did continue to follow Trayvon after that statment was made by the 911 operator. That's how Trayvon ended up dead. If Zimmerman was just standing outside his car, that's where the body would have been, and it wasn't anywhere near Zimmerman's vehicle.
 
Just out of curiousity, how do you interpret "We don't need you to do that." This is a serious question. Given the overall situation at that time, how do you interpret "We don't need you to do that." What's the fair and honest interpretation of that, which was told to George by the 911 operator.

just as it says we dont need you to do that

zimmerman said ok and stopped as well

however that was said outside of the car

there was not mention by dispatch to

remain in the car

there are 4 requests by dispatch requesting assistance by zimmerman

prior to the we dont need you to do that

this will come into play in court

BTW you didn't interpret what you think "We don't need you to do that" means. Interpret means to say what you think that statement suggests. The jury will certainly look at it closely and they will interpret it. I think it means the 911 operator is not in a position to issue an outright order but is saying what is suggested as the most reasonable way to behave. That he is suggesting Zimmerman should not follow Trayvon and leave this to the police. Had he obeyed, Trayvon would still be alive. And yes, he did continue to follow Trayvon after that statment was made by the 911 operator. That's how Trayvon ended up dead. If Zimmerman was just standing outside his car, that's where the body would have been, and it wasn't anywhere near Zimmerman's vehicle.

he did stop

he talked to dispatch for over a minute and half after that sentence he wasnt running around
 
Except the eye witness and medical reports support Zimmerman's account. Troubling, no?

There is no witness that said Martin was bashing Zimmerman head on the pavement. And Zimmerman refused medical treatment at the scene and never had an x-ray taken of his nose.

in the first frye hearing it was revealed by accident

(however the judge did let in as a question) by defense

that there is a 2nd witness on scene that

says it was zimmerman screaming for help

Witness #6 first said the white guy in the white and red shirt was screaming for help but later recanted because he just assumed he was screaming for help because he was on the bottom.
 
There is no witness that said Martin was bashing Zimmerman head on the pavement. And Zimmerman refused medical treatment at the scene and never had an x-ray taken of his nose.

in the first frye hearing it was revealed by accident

(however the judge did let in as a question) by defense

that there is a 2nd witness on scene that

says it was zimmerman screaming for help

Witness #6 first said the white guy in the white and red shirt was screaming for help but later recanted because he just assumed he was screaming for help because he was on the bottom.

i would imagine that

the positions of the two persons

would be an important part of the puzzle
 
Zimmerman could be facing federal hate crimes charges as well.

Yeah, right.

That's what Bush did to the LA cops that beat Rodney King, they were found innocent and then the Justice department filed federal charges.

Do you have anything that points to racism here other than a white/Hispanic/black guy killed a black guy?

And Bush didn't do that. The US District Court in Los Angeles did that, mainly to stop the riots.
 
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There is no witness that said Martin was bashing Zimmerman head on the pavement. And Zimmerman refused medical treatment at the scene and never had an x-ray taken of his nose.

in the first frye hearing it was revealed by accident

(however the judge did let in as a question) by defense

that there is a 2nd witness on scene that

says it was zimmerman screaming for help

Witness #6 first said the white guy in the white and red shirt was screaming for help but later recanted because he just assumed he was screaming for help because he was on the bottom.

Meaning Mr Martin was on top of Mr Zimmerman.
What was Mr M doing on top of Mr Z?
 
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