Charged with manslaughter for texts and phone convos?

[ABikerSailor]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

My 8 year old son has more sense than that crap.
Words aren't illegal. Hek, most kids know that. Not just mine.
More collective nonsense.

When a person is being constantly bullied by people on social media, the bullying is no longer limited to school, but has expanded to 24/7. And, there are many cases where kids have taken their lives because of bullying on social media.

And yeah, it's still illegal to yell "fire" in a theater if there is no fire, because in the panic people can get hurt.

you do know that computers and phones have an OFF button don't you?

Yeah, I do understand that phones and computers have an off switch. However, although those devices have an off switch, the internet itself doesn't. Even if you turn off your phone, when you turn it back on, the bully websites are still there.

 

[Coyote]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

My 8 year old son has more sense than that crap.
Words aren't illegal. Hek, most kids know that. Not just mine.
More collective nonsense.

When a person is being constantly bullied by people on social media, the bullying is no longer limited to school, but has expanded to 24/7. And, there are many cases where kids have taken their lives because of bullying on social media.

And yeah, it's still illegal to yell "fire" in a theater if there is no fire, because in the panic people can get hurt.

Oh, im sorry. The bullies must FORCE them to be on social media. They must FORCE them to blow their brains out or jump in front of a truck. They FORCE them to take offense to words.
Sorry, I just believe in personal responsibility.
If someone bullied my kid and he let them bother him, guess who I will be more upset with?

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

 

[ABikerSailor]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

so if someone tells you to jump off a bridge you would?

There was no crime committed

Suicide isn't a crime

Someone I don't know tells me to jump off a bridge, I'm gonna ignore them.

However..............this was a case where the dude was having emotional problems and was turning to someone for support that normally would be turned to (his girlfriend), and she spent a few weeks telling him to kill himself.

Sorry, but if someone you love keeps telling you to kill yourself, eventually you might think about it.

 

[TNHarley]

My 8 year old son has more sense than that crap.
Words aren't illegal. Hek, most kids know that. Not just mine.
More collective nonsense.

When a person is being constantly bullied by people on social media, the bullying is no longer limited to school, but has expanded to 24/7. And, there are many cases where kids have taken their lives because of bullying on social media.

And yeah, it's still illegal to yell "fire" in a theater if there is no fire, because in the panic people can get hurt.

Oh, im sorry. The bullies must FORCE them to be on social media. They must FORCE them to blow their brains out or jump in front of a truck. They FORCE them to take offense to words.
Sorry, I just believe in personal responsibility.
If someone bullied my kid and he let them bother him, guess who I will be more upset with?

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

 

[Skull Pilot]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

so if someone tells you to jump off a bridge you would?

There was no crime committed

Suicide isn't a crime

Someone I don't know tells me to jump off a bridge, I'm gonna ignore them.

However..............this was a case where the dude was having emotional problems and was turning to someone for support that normally would be turned to (his girlfriend), and she spent a few weeks telling him to kill himself.

Sorry, but if someone you love keeps telling you to kill yourself, eventually you might think about it.

Sorry but no I wouldn't.

Someone tells me they want me to kill myself I stop talking to that person

 

[TNHarley]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

so if someone tells you to jump off a bridge you would?

There was no crime committed

Suicide isn't a crime

Someone I don't know tells me to jump off a bridge, I'm gonna ignore them.

However..............this was a case where the dude was having emotional problems and was turning to someone for support that normally would be turned to (his girlfriend), and she spent a few weeks telling him to kill himself.

Sorry, but if someone you love keeps telling you to kill yourself, eventually you might think about it.

Maybe you would. Maybe you are just shoving your vulnerabilities on everyone?
I would never kill myself because some dumbass told me too. If my wife told me that I wouldn't. If my mom told me to I wouldn't. If god himself told me to, I wouldn't.
Neither should you or anyone else. Your life is your responsibility unless it is taken from someone else.

 

[Skull Pilot]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

My 8 year old son has more sense than that crap.
Words aren't illegal. Hek, most kids know that. Not just mine.
More collective nonsense.

When a person is being constantly bullied by people on social media, the bullying is no longer limited to school, but has expanded to 24/7. And, there are many cases where kids have taken their lives because of bullying on social media.

And yeah, it's still illegal to yell "fire" in a theater if there is no fire, because in the panic people can get hurt.

you do know that computers and phones have an OFF button don't you?

Yeah, I do understand that phones and computers have an off switch. However, although those devices have an off switch, the internet itself doesn't. Even if you turn off your phone, when you turn it back on, the bully websites are still there.

You do know you don/t have to have a Facebook or Twitter or whatever account don't you?

 

[Coyote]

When a person is being constantly bullied by people on social media, the bullying is no longer limited to school, but has expanded to 24/7. And, there are many cases where kids have taken their lives because of bullying on social media.

And yeah, it's still illegal to yell "fire" in a theater if there is no fire, because in the panic people can get hurt.

Oh, im sorry. The bullies must FORCE them to be on social media. They must FORCE them to blow their brains out or jump in front of a truck. They FORCE them to take offense to words.
Sorry, I just believe in personal responsibility.
If someone bullied my kid and he let them bother him, guess who I will be more upset with?

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

Hard to say. I have to run so I'll be quick. A friend of mine has an 11 yr old daughter, that she trusted, had always been a good kid, teachers liked her, never in trouble. Then, something occurred with something she texted that led to a huge problem, and when her mother looked at her cell phone she was shocked at what her daughter had been saying etc etc - she never acted like that or talked like that otherwise.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

Typical liberal response. I don't like it, so it must be illegal. Would you care to cite the law?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Oh, im sorry. The bullies must FORCE them to be on social media. They must FORCE them to blow their brains out or jump in front of a truck. They FORCE them to take offense to words.
Sorry, I just believe in personal responsibility.
If someone bullied my kid and he let them bother him, guess who I will be more upset with?

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

Hard to say. I have to run so I'll be quick. A friend of mine has an 11 yr old daughter, that she trusted, had always been a good kid, teachers liked her, never in trouble. Then, something occurred with something she texted that led to a huge problem, and when her mother looked at her cell phone she was shocked at what her daughter had been saying etc etc - she never acted like that or talked like that otherwise.

which is why an 11 year old should not have a cell phone

 

[ABikerSailor]

When a person is being constantly bullied by people on social media, the bullying is no longer limited to school, but has expanded to 24/7. And, there are many cases where kids have taken their lives because of bullying on social media.

And yeah, it's still illegal to yell "fire" in a theater if there is no fire, because in the panic people can get hurt.

Oh, im sorry. The bullies must FORCE them to be on social media. They must FORCE them to blow their brains out or jump in front of a truck. They FORCE them to take offense to words.
Sorry, I just believe in personal responsibility.
If someone bullied my kid and he let them bother him, guess who I will be more upset with?

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

Suicide isn't as cut and dried as you are trying to make it sound. During the last 8 years I was in the Navy, I was a Dug and Alcohol Program Advisor. Part of that training was Suicide Prevention because people with substance abuse problems generally have emotional problems as well. There are LOTS of factors that can contribute, and someone telling an already depressed person (especially when they are supposed to be emotionally supportive) to kill themselves might be just the little push that they need to go through with the act.

People who commit suicide are generally at the end of their rope and can see no other way to "fix" things other than to kill themselves, because they feel useless and unwanted. His girlfriend telling him to off himself can only exacerbate those feelings.

 

[TNHarley]

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

Hard to say. I have to run so I'll be quick. A friend of mine has an 11 yr old daughter, that she trusted, had always been a good kid, teachers liked her, never in trouble. Then, something occurred with something she texted that led to a huge problem, and when her mother looked at her cell phone she was shocked at what her daughter had been saying etc etc - she never acted like that or talked like that otherwise.

which is why an 11 year old should not have a cell phone

Beat me to it!

 

[TNHarley]

Oh, im sorry. The bullies must FORCE them to be on social media. They must FORCE them to blow their brains out or jump in front of a truck. They FORCE them to take offense to words.
Sorry, I just believe in personal responsibility.
If someone bullied my kid and he let them bother him, guess who I will be more upset with?

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

Suicide isn't as cut and dried as you are trying to make it sound. During the last 8 years I was in the Navy, I was a Dug and Alcohol Program Advisor. Part of that training was Suicide Prevention because people with substance abuse problems generally have emotional problems as well. There are LOTS of factors that can contribute, and someone telling an already depressed person (especially when they are supposed to be emotionally supportive) to kill themselves might be just the little push that they need to go through with the act.

People who commit suicide are generally at the end of their rope and can see no other way to "fix" things other than to kill themselves, because they feel useless and unwanted. His girlfriend telling him to off himself can only exacerbate those feelings.

Its still HIS problem. No amount of spin can change the fact that it is his fault solely on taking his own life.
This is a pandoras box.
Next thing you know, I will be suing GM for getting drunk and hitting a pedestrian. AWESOME

 

[ABikerSailor]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

Typical liberal response. I don't like it, so it must be illegal. Would you care to cite the law?

Talk to the coroner, because it was during his investigation that he determined that the reason the dude committed suicide was because of the influence of his girlfriend.

As far as bullying laws?

Cyberbullying - FindLaw

 

[TNHarley]

"this guy kept telling me to rob the bank. He wouldn't stop suggesting it, so I had to"

 

[Dan Stubbs]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

What a Whosss

 

[TNHarley]

She's being charged with involuntary manslaughter, because she encouraged him to commit suicide.

During this suicide, her boyfriend had been sitting in a car with CO being routed into the cab, but got scared, texted her that he was leaving the car. She then texted another friend and bitched about him not going through with it, and then texted him back and told him to get back in the car.

It was because he went back in that he later died.

Nope, sorry...............even if she is found innocent of this dude's death, she should still be brought up on some sort of bullying charges, because that is basically what she did, bullied him into committing suicide.

And yeah..............that is a thing.

Typical liberal response. I don't like it, so it must be illegal. Would you care to cite the law?

Talk to the coroner, because it was during his investigation that he determined that the reason the dude committed suicide was because of the influence of his girlfriend.

As far as bullying laws?

Cyberbullying - FindLaw

according to that link, there isn't laws that apply to this. Unless the school is going to get involved with private texts and phone calls made outside school.

 

[koshergrl]

Are you freakin kiddin me?
Read the texts at the center of the Massachusetts teen suicide case
WTF did she get charged for? She didn't kill the moron. He did.

Yeah isn't that something.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I don't know how old you are TN - or your kids, but I'm thinking it's a whole different ball game out there then when I was a kid or, if I had had children - when they would have been. Social media, smart phones, etc really changes things and vastly extends the influence and reach of bullies who can do so from anonymity, who can falsify things that can reach a person's entire "network" of friends.

I don't think it's so straightforward anymore.

Doesn't matter. Technology is no reason to shit on personal responsibility. People should adapt to a changing world, if that's the case.
It isn't my problem someone is emotionally weak. I shouldn't lose rights because of it.

I don't have a answer one way or the other on the personal responsibility in these sorts of things. I think charging her with manslaughter could be a slippery slope. But the thought that she could get away with no consequences, to resume her sociopathic life is also highly disturbing.

The thing with social media is this - we haven't evolved the ethics to handle it and we're only gradually realizing some of the problems associated with it. And, while the personal responsibility thing is fine for adults - these are kids. They aren't by definition mature and haven't yet developed the capacity to make good decisions at every level. Personal responsibility should be in line with the person's ability to make appropriate decisions imo. You tell a 3 yr old how to cross the street, that cars are dangerous but you sure don't let him out on the street unsupervised right?

If a person is so weak that they would kill themselves because some girl with big eyebrows wants her too, then maybe he isn't mature enough to handle social media. Where was his parents?

Suicide isn't as cut and dried as you are trying to make it sound. During the last 8 years I was in the Navy, I was a Dug and Alcohol Program Advisor. Part of that training was Suicide Prevention because people with substance abuse problems generally have emotional problems as well. There are LOTS of factors that can contribute, and someone telling an already depressed person (especially when they are supposed to be emotionally supportive) to kill themselves might be just the little push that they need to go through with the act.

People who commit suicide are generally at the end of their rope and can see no other way to "fix" things other than to kill themselves, because they feel useless and unwanted. His girlfriend telling him to off himself can only exacerbate those feelings.

Its still HIS problem. No amount of spin can change the fact that it is his fault solely on taking his own life.
This is a pandoras box.
Next thing you know, I will be suing GM for getting drunk and hitting a pedestrian. AWESOME

It's readily apparent that you have never been around suicidal people or had to work with them. I have, and I can tell you that suicide is a lot more complicated than someone just deciding to off themselves. It is rarely a spur of the moment event and generally takes several weeks to several months to come to that decision.

During that period of time, there are definite warning signs that a person is suicidal, and it is only through the intervention of the people around them that it can be stopped.

 

[TNHarley]

Are you freakin kiddin me?
Read the texts at the center of the Massachusetts teen suicide case
WTF did she get charged for? She didn't kill the moron. He did.

Yeah isn't that something.

pathetic!
I hope she gets off and goes after them!