Charlie Gard has passed

[Synthaholic]

The British want this baby Alfie Evans to die

Of, fuck off with that bullshit.

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh hell no.. Single payer will OUTLAW doctors performing procedures that are NOT proscribed the way the GOVT WRITES the reimbursements

Oh, really? Please show me the text of this single payer bill, Nostradamus.

Single Payer means SINGLE PAYER. All medical tasks will be performed and reimbursed as DICTATED in the reimbursement codes. That's how they stopped me in Medicare from paying an $1000 to an anthesiologist to put my Dad under for a procedure. If I DID THAT -- none of the other doctors would be reimbursed for that procedure. OR for the prelim visits or follow-ups. AND it's not legal..

No "pay-arounds" in socialized medicine. All the proletariat is the same patient. OTHERWISE, those awful RICH bastards would be "bribing" doctors at the Brit NHS to move them up MONTHS for a procedure they need to stay alive.. Couldn't have that.. Could we comrade???

Learn how things work. Makes forming opinions a USEFUL past time.. .

Oh, for fuck sake. No one is going to outlaw private insurance, because that's what all the rich fucks are going to have. It will be like rewards programs: nicer hospital rooms, privacy, more creature comforts, perhaps specialists under contract to certain insurance groups. And to cover things normal insurance doesn't.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Oh hell no.. Single payer will OUTLAW doctors performing procedures that are NOT proscribed the way the GOVT WRITES the reimbursements

Oh, really? Please show me the text of this single payer bill, Nostradamus.

Single Payer means SINGLE PAYER. All medical tasks will be performed and reimbursed as DICTATED in the reimbursement codes. That's how they stopped me in Medicare from paying an $1000 to an anthesiologist to put my Dad under for a procedure. If I DID THAT -- none of the other doctors would be reimbursed for that procedure. OR for the prelim visits or follow-ups. AND it's not legal..

No "pay-arounds" in socialized medicine. All the proletariat is the same patient. OTHERWISE, those awful RICH bastards would be "bribing" doctors at the Brit NHS to move them up MONTHS for a procedure they need to stay alive.. Couldn't have that.. Could we comrade???

Learn how things work. Makes forming opinions a USEFUL past time.. .

Oh, for fuck sake. No one is going to outlaw private insurance, because that's what all the rich fucks are going to have. It will be like rewards programs: nicer hospital rooms, privacy, more creature comforts, perhaps specialists under contract to certain insurance groups. And to cover things normal insurance doesn't.

That's not single payer either.

 

[Synthaholic]

A Socialized Medicine Death Panel killed that child.

No "god" worth following would allow an innocent baby to suffer like this.

Meh who gives a fuck about your irrelevant taunts.

Only the people who bother to reply to them.

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh hell no.. Single payer will OUTLAW doctors performing procedures that are NOT proscribed the way the GOVT WRITES the reimbursements

Oh, really? Please show me the text of this single payer bill, Nostradamus.

Single Payer means SINGLE PAYER. All medical tasks will be performed and reimbursed as DICTATED in the reimbursement codes. That's how they stopped me in Medicare from paying an $1000 to an anthesiologist to put my Dad under for a procedure. If I DID THAT -- none of the other doctors would be reimbursed for that procedure. OR for the prelim visits or follow-ups. AND it's not legal..

No "pay-arounds" in socialized medicine. All the proletariat is the same patient. OTHERWISE, those awful RICH bastards would be "bribing" doctors at the Brit NHS to move them up MONTHS for a procedure they need to stay alive.. Couldn't have that.. Could we comrade???

Learn how things work. Makes forming opinions a USEFUL past time.. .

Oh, for fuck sake. No one is going to outlaw private insurance, because that's what all the rich fucks are going to have. It will be like rewards programs: nicer hospital rooms, privacy, more creature comforts, perhaps specialists under contract to certain insurance groups. And to cover things normal insurance doesn't.

That's not single payer either.

No, it's supplemental insurance.

 

[Mindful]

Another case in the UK; this time of a small child with an extremely rare form of cancer, who will be going to the US for treatment, funded by contributions from the community.

 

[JoeB131]

That's just stupid nonsense on your part. There was nothing cruel about it.

The child was blind, deaf, paralyzed, had spasms of pain, and was being kept alive on a respirator... that's about as cruel as you get.

 

[badger2]

On the cancer thread, we have already shown that Charlie Gard's potassium channels were being modulated during MRI by the anaesthesia, and that it will be impossible to prove otherwise, by GOSH, by god, by Greyhound, by anyone else. Investigating a negligence trajectory will continue with the fact that the GOSH anaesthesiologist was getting paid to infuse a substance whose mechanism of action was unknown into a patient whose reactive genome due to a rare disease was also unknown.

 

[Coyote]

That's just stupid nonsense on your part. There was nothing cruel about it.

The child was blind, deaf, paralyzed, had spasms of pain, and was being kept alive on a respirator... that's about as cruel as you get.

Apparently pain IS an issue in those who suffer mitochondrial diseases...had no idea: Pain | Mitochondrial Disease Action Committee - MitoAction

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Plenty of conditions and diseases cause pain. When there is a treatment available we use it. In socialized medicine the treatment is euthanasia.

 

[Coyote]

Plenty of conditions and diseases cause pain. When there is a treatment available we use it. In socialized medicine the treatment is euthanasia.

That's a lie.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Plenty of conditions and diseases cause pain. When there is a treatment available we use it. In socialized medicine the treatment is euthanasia.

That's a lie.

Tell it to Charlie Gard's parents.

 

[Coyote]

Plenty of conditions and diseases cause pain. When there is a treatment available we use it. In socialized medicine the treatment is euthanasia.

That's a lie.

Tell it to Charlie Gard's parents.

It's still a lie.

 

[badger2]

Was not the first MRI done in December?

1.) G.O.S.H. could have known at least as early as 23 Mar 2017 that the anaesthesia directly modulated Charlie Gard's potassium channels.

2.) Charlie Gard's target gene: RRM2B

3.) Pubmed combined keyword search 'rrm2b[AND]potassium' yields no references.

 

[badger2]

The URL may or may not work, but the comparison is for item #33 and the 28th of March:

England and Wales High Court (Family Division) Decisions
www.bailii.org/en/cases/EWHC/Fam/2017/972.html

This is a precious document. There is much pathology embedded within it.

 

[badger2]

Readers can retrieve the document by clicking on reference #3:

Charlie Gard Case
Charlie Gard case - Wikipedia

We note that Charlie's first MRI was performed on 7 Oct 2016. This is the date for the murder of Anna Politkovskaya and for Putin's birthday. Bizarre.

 

[Synthaholic]

The child was blind, deaf, paralyzed, had spasms of pain

But he sure played a mean pinball.

 

[flacaltenn]

Oh hell no.. Single payer will OUTLAW doctors performing procedures that are NOT proscribed the way the GOVT WRITES the reimbursements

Oh, really? Please show me the text of this single payer bill, Nostradamus.

Single Payer means SINGLE PAYER. All medical tasks will be performed and reimbursed as DICTATED in the reimbursement codes. That's how they stopped me in Medicare from paying an $1000 to an anthesiologist to put my Dad under for a procedure. If I DID THAT -- none of the other doctors would be reimbursed for that procedure. OR for the prelim visits or follow-ups. AND it's not legal..

No "pay-arounds" in socialized medicine. All the proletariat is the same patient. OTHERWISE, those awful RICH bastards would be "bribing" doctors at the Brit NHS to move them up MONTHS for a procedure they need to stay alive.. Couldn't have that.. Could we comrade???

Learn how things work. Makes forming opinions a USEFUL past time.. .

Oh, for fuck sake. No one is going to outlaw private insurance, because that's what all the rich fucks are going to have. It will be like rewards programs: nicer hospital rooms, privacy, more creature comforts, perhaps specialists under contract to certain insurance groups. And to cover things normal insurance doesn't.

Did ObamaCare allow folks to buy INDIVIDUAL PLANS for luxury rooms and gourmet kitchen rights? You're deluded. NO -- they didn't. They made exemptions for their Union buddies and taxed their "Cadillac plans"..

You cheerlead for this stuff without even an original thought....

PRIVATE PLANS for individuals are OUTLAWED under O-Care. And it's illegal for farmers, plumbers, small biz owners to GROUP into plans... You think Single Payer will be more generous???

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Charlie Gard’s parents give $1.5M in his memory to help other sick kids

LONDON, England, August 2, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – Charlie Gard's parents will set up a foundation to help sick kids, defend parental rights, and ensure what happened to their son doesn't happen to other families.

Chris Gard and Connie Yates were unable to use the £1.3 million (about $1.5 million USD) they raised to transfer Charlie to the U.S. for experimental treatment. It will instead be used to start the Charlie Gard Foundation, which will help families in similar circumstances.

Charlie Gard’s parents give $1.5M in his memory to help other sick kids

 

[flacaltenn]

That's just stupid nonsense on your part. There was nothing cruel about it.

The child was blind, deaf, paralyzed, had spasms of pain, and was being kept alive on a respirator... that's about as cruel as you get.

That's why in DEC and JAN -- the NHS should have ALLOWED treatment. They had no TREATMENT. The USA offered a clinical trial of VERY specialized custom treatment.

The arrogant Brits decided to FIGHT the treatment option from the get-go. Took it to court thru APRIL -- when decided to KILL the baby..

And THEN the govt allowed this to linger until a "natural death" occurred 3 months later.

There's no compassion is FIGHTING treatment. NONE at all..