Chicago: Nip It In The Bud

[JoeB131]

You are clearly ignorant of how liability carriers operate.

Nobody writes a seven figure check without a fight.

Sure they do. Most compliant are frivolous. Further, given that it is Chicago and he is surrounded by militant entitlement minded blacks, I am surprised that he does not have more. I'd wager that most of the CPD has complaints filed against them.

Yes, those silly Negroes, thinking they are entitled "not be shot by police for frivilous crimes". What are they thinking?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Yeah it sucks to be a cop in Chicago. They're all Union up there. They should strike and let the animals have their way on Downtown for a few weeks.

Police officers going on strike is a criminal act. Lock up a few, make sure some get shanked, the rest will fall into line.

So what's worse? "MURDERING" Innocent Drug addled Knife Wielding Innocent Threatening Black Teens? Or just refusing to do a dam' thing to stop them?

Reader, now do ya see how that works? The Left doesn't want the cops to stop doing their jobs... they just want the cops to know that THEY are to be the preferred Defendees...

LOL! In other words: They're helpless...

 

[JoeB131]

Reader, now do ya see how that works? The Left doesn't want the cops to stop doing their jobs... they just want the cops to know that THEY are to be the preferred Defendees...

Sure we want the cops doing their jobs.

We just want them to do them RIGHT. The other seven cops were doing it right. They were keeping this kid contained until he could be disarmed or talked down.

The one asshole decided to shoot him 16 times.

Now, here's the thing. Those other seven cops fucked up by trying to cover for the guy. So they are going to be given a choice. - come clean about what really happened or get thrown off the job for the coverup.

 

[Iron Head]

It is Getting pretty fucking ridiculous at this point - you defending the alleged rights of a PCP freak over our police officers. In addition to you being just wildly wrong on both the facts and the law, your attitutde sucks dirty ass!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Reader, now do ya see how that works? The Left doesn't want the cops to stop doing their jobs... they just want the cops to know that THEY are to be the preferred Defendees...

Sure we want the cops doing their jobs.

We just want them to do them RIGHT. The other seven cops were doing it right. They were keeping this kid contained until he could be disarmed or talked down.

The one asshole decided to shoot him 16 times.

Now, here's the thing. Those other seven cops fucked up by trying to cover for the guy. So they are going to be given a choice. - come clean about what really happened or get thrown off the job for the coverup.

Saw the video... The cop did the right thing... Except he waited way longer than he should have.

The charges are absurd.

Chicago PD should just strike. Let the idiots take Chicago down.

A few weeks of that and anyone can walk down the street with a black head on a stick and no one black or white will so much as notice, let alone care.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Go back on your court-ordered antipsychotics, kid.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I saw the video. There was no "rampaging".

Bottom line is that cops are not and should not be judge, jury and executioner. The cop murdered a man and needs to pay the price for that.

No. You got to give the officer some leeway. He was pumped up and firing a semi automatic weapon. In the heat of the moment it is easy to empty a magazine in a fraction of a moment.

You have to evaluate the shooting in its totality. You cannot break it down into segments.

WHAT??

He was "pumped up" so it was okay to murder the kid? A trained cop can't control his own gun?

If that's true then NO civilian should ever own a gun.

The "totality" is that the cop murdered a kid in the street. If Illinois is a capital punishment state, I hope he gets the death penalty that he chose to mete out to the kid.

The OP is racist slime. If the dead kid were white and the cop black, his rant would be completely different. Face it - equal rights under the law.

fAiL s0n....then go live in a society where you can go do anything the fuck you want. In the meantime, we non-zombies like the way law enforcement handled this one.

Assholes like this knucklehead fail in the connect the dots exercise. This savage may well have knifed somebody else to death without the decisive action taken by the police. Worse, the guy gets locked up for a couple or years for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and comes back on the street and stabs a dozen people to death. No thanks..........the progressive limpwristers can take their circus side-show and form their own beautiful country and call it Scratchmyassville USA. HAPPY NOW!!!

Are you really advocating that police perform the jobs of judge, jury, and executioner?

s0n......if I go running down main street USA waving a fucking machete at people and charge police, I deserve to get my ass shot off. That's the way it works in a civilized society or you would have no civilized society....the cities would be owned by the savages.

well let's see... the 'machete' was a 3" knife, he wasn't waving it, he didn't charge.

so try again.

So if it was a 4" knife and he was waiving it around, then, and only then, he's a threat?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

What you are talking about is science. The parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system. Adrenaline dumps. The "fog" of stressful conflict. It's why cops or soldiers can shoot 10-20 rounds and when asked say they shot 4 or 5. Brain just dumb down and reacts.

But libs refuse to even discuss this science. It's the same science that can cause a thug robbing a gas station to fire a shot and kill the clerk....and later say they don't remember it or didn't mean to. 50% chance they really didnt. Brain just does crazy shit under high stress.

he shot a guy lying on the ground repeatedly - after shooting him when he didn't pose an imminent threat.

i don't doubt that it's easy to keep squeezing that trigger in those situations, i just think that when you change your aim to shoot at a guy on the ground it's a little different than firing into the same place repeatedly.

Meh....they train to keep sights on target.

But....just watched the video. It was a bad shoot. The first couple I was okay with legally...although morally a taser would've been more appropriate.

But the threat dropped. You must stop shooting once the threat is down. I can understand one or two "heat of the moment" continuation shots. But not that.

This cop threw himself under the bus.




That said....pass the popcorn. A good riot is gonna break out!!

i could almost give a pass on the first few shots, even though there is no real threat and there certainly wasn't one that warranted lethal force - but that's a lot easier to say in hindsight.
but once he's down to keep firing - that's not about stopping a threat that's about killing a guy - and that's murder.

What if the fatal shot was inflicted in one of the first couple of shots? The kid died in the ambulance.

If the first couple shots could have caused the death, and they were ok in your mind, then it is justifiable. Correct?

no. it's not justifiable because the shooting wasn't justified for one, and the cop still intended to murder the kid.

^^^^ nutjob

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The officer did society a favor

Fat Irish Sow reminding everyone she's a racist twat!

Not that we needed a reminder.

Projecting again?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The officer already claimed it was a knife so he can't say that he thought it might have been gun at this point. Someone laying on the ground with a knife with multiple bullet holes in them is not a threat.

Bullshit. You obviously do not know what the hell you are talking about, you lying shit-bag.

Watch the fucking video, you fucking dumbass knuckle dragger. The kid was never a threat to the cops which is why the 7 other cops that were there didn't fire a shot.

He was a threat. Why do you think so many cops were dispatched to the scene, you stupid motherfucker? The video only captures a moment in all of this.

The video captures the most important moment in all of this and nobody was at risk of being harmed by the deceased. Again, the 7 other cops didn't empty their weapons, none of them fired a shot.

Iron Head is a very fitting name for someone without a brain.

He whirled around and was fired upon by the cop in most immediate danger.

Stop lying, Leftists!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

They did this to protect YOU and the rest of the public from memorializing the scene in segments and out of context, thereby facilitating their creation of their own original narratives that will work to undermine the ability of the police to do their jobs - Protect the public.

You are a stupid man who only believes what suits him.

Guy, I don't feel "protected" by rogue cops who routinely abuse citizens and use excessive force.

I don't feel protected by cops who beat false confessions out of people. This is something that happens routinely, and people have ended up on Death Row because of it. In fact,t his state abolished the death penalty because police misconduct was so common we couldn't be sure who we were executing.

The context of this tape is pretty clear. This kid was not a threat, he could have easily been subdued with a Taser or batons. He certainly was not a threat after the first bullet hit him and he was on the ground in a fetal position and Van Dyke shot him 15 more times.

Here's the thing. I think most law enforcement officers are doing good work, but that is undermined by the bad apples like Burge and Van Dyke.

Ok. Don't call them next time you need them.

 

[JoeB131]

Saw the video... The cop did the right thing... Except he waited way longer than he should have.

The charges are absurd.

Chicago PD should just strike. Let the idiots take Chicago down.

A few weeks of that and anyone can walk down the street with a black head on a stick and no one black or white will so much as notice, let alone care.

the absurd thing is that the rest of us should put up with bully cops because they refuse to clean up the bad apples.

This guy had 20 complaints against him before he shot this kid. Why wasn't he fired years ago.

Same thing with this cop out in Fox Valley. He was engaged in all sorts of misconduct, someone finally questioned it, and he staged a suicide and tried to blame it on nameless suspects.

We allow police to use force in our names to keep law and order. Fair enough. But we kind of have a right to demand accountability when they use that force.

 

[JoeB131]

Ok. Don't call them next time you need them.

Or we could just demand they clean up their acts. You know, common sense stuff.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Ok. Don't call them next time you need them.

Or we could just demand they clean up their acts. You know, common sense stuff.

Wrong. We can demand that the people they deal with clean up their act. You have no victims, just thugs assaulting cops, brandishing weapons, resisting arrest, trying to grab cops' guns, doing everything to escalate the situation from an arrest to a shooting. Because conservatives are moral, we place the responsibility precisely where it belongs, on the criminal that placed officers in danger through non compliance or felony assault. Because Leftists are immoral, you shift responsibility away from the perpetrators and onto law enforcement.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong. We can demand that the people they deal with clean up their act. You have no victims, just thugs assaulting cops, brandishing weapons, resisting arrest, trying to grab cops' guns, doing everything to escalate the situation from an arrest to a shooting. Because conservatives are moral, we place the responsibility precisely where it belongs, on the criminal that placed officers in danger through non compliance or felony assault. Because Leftists are immoral, you shift responsibility away from the perpetrators and onto law enforcement.

Except this person was not assaulting cops, resisting arrest, rying to grab anyone's gun. He had a knife, but he was too far out of it to pose any credible threat to SEVEN trained police officers.

Six of those seven realized that and didn't draw their weapons. One was a psycho who shot the guy. Then he shot him another 15 times when he was no longer any kind of a threat.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Wrong. We can demand that the people they deal with clean up their act. You have no victims, just thugs assaulting cops, brandishing weapons, resisting arrest, trying to grab cops' guns, doing everything to escalate the situation from an arrest to a shooting. Because conservatives are moral, we place the responsibility precisely where it belongs, on the criminal that placed officers in danger through non compliance or felony assault. Because Leftists are immoral, you shift responsibility away from the perpetrators and onto law enforcement.

Except this person was not assaulting cops, resisting arrest, rying to grab anyone's gun. He had a knife, but he was too far out of it to pose any credible threat to SEVEN trained police officers.

Six of those seven realized that and didn't draw their weapons. One was a psycho who shot the guy. Then he shot him another 15 times when he was no longer any kind of a threat.

The closest officer was the one in danger. Ghetto thug turned to face him and at that point was posing a direct and deliberate threat. The fact he was shot so often proves the officer feared for his life. People who don't feel threatened only shoot once or twice.

 

[Iron Head]

Saw the video... The cop did the right thing... Except he waited way longer than he should have.

The charges are absurd.

Chicago PD should just strike. Let the idiots take Chicago down.

A few weeks of that and anyone can walk down the street with a black head on a stick and no one black or white will so much as notice, let alone care.

the absurd thing is that the rest of us should put up with bully cops because they refuse to clean up the bad apples.

This guy had 20 complaints against him before he shot this kid. Why wasn't he fired years ago.

Same thing with this cop out in Fox Valley. He was engaged in all sorts of misconduct, someone finally questioned it, and he staged a suicide and tried to blame it on nameless suspects.

We allow police to use force in our names to keep law and order. Fair enough. But we kind of have a right to demand accountability when they use that force.

No disciplinary was taken on any of those complaints. Were they frivolous or was there a grand conspiracy to cover them up? The most logical answer given the number of complaints that get filed against police are frivolous compells the rational conclusion that they too were probably frivolous. In addition, those prior complaints have no bearing on the guilt or innocence of this police officer in this case.

You are a fascist pig. The cop is innocent until proven guilty. You, on the other hand, apparently want to convict the man based upon your knee-jerk emotional response without knowing all of the facts and circumstances, only a small clip of video.

 

[jc456]

you are a sick fuck.

not as sick as the GLEE I feel dripping off the post of some who say...."Another Cop gonna spend life in jail'. That frosts my rear!

So where should a murdering cop be sent? Disneyland?

He should be nailed to a cross and left there until his bones fall apart.

You just made him look good.

 

[jc456]

Saw the video... The cop did the right thing... Except he waited way longer than he should have.

The charges are absurd.

Chicago PD should just strike. Let the idiots take Chicago down.

A few weeks of that and anyone can walk down the street with a black head on a stick and no one black or white will so much as notice, let alone care.

the absurd thing is that the rest of us should put up with bully cops because they refuse to clean up the bad apples.

This guy had 20 complaints against him before he shot this kid. Why wasn't he fired years ago.

Same thing with this cop out in Fox Valley. He was engaged in all sorts of misconduct, someone finally questioned it, and he staged a suicide and tried to blame it on nameless suspects.

We allow police to use force in our names to keep law and order. Fair enough. But we kind of have a right to demand accountability when they use that force.

No disciplinary was taken on any of those complaints. Were they frivolous or was there a grand conspiracy to cover them up? The most logical answer given the number of complaints that get filed against police are frivolous compells the rational conclusion that they too were probably frivolous. In addition, those prior complaints have no bearing on the guilt or innocence of this police officer in this case.

You are a fascist pig. The cop is innocent until proven guilty. You, on the other hand, apparently want to convict the man based upon your knee-jerk emotional response without knowing all of the facts and circumstances, only a small clip of video.

Naw because he's an asswipe

 

[Jarlaxle]

Ok. Don't call them next time you need them.

Or we could just demand they clean up their acts. You know, common sense stuff.

Wrong. We can demand that the people they deal with clean up their act. You have no victims, just thugs assaulting cops, brandishing weapons, resisting arrest, trying to grab cops' guns, doing everything to escalate the situation from an arrest to a shooting. Because conservatives are moral, we place the responsibility precisely where it belongs, on the criminal that placed officers in danger through non compliance or felony assault. Because Leftists are immoral, you shift responsibility away from the perpetrators and onto law enforcement.

Just how far over the line would a cop have to be for you to NOT defend him? Protection rackets? Moonlighting as a hit man? Selling children to the highest bidder?