Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire.

[pknopp]

So what? It was a Supreme Court decision. The REPUBLICANS on the Supreme court legislating from the bench.

I don't even call the conservatives anymore. They are party hacks.

The law never should have been passed and then if not, there is no lawsuit.

 

[sealybobo]

That is the name used to file a lawsuit to overturn the "Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002".

One of the biggest attacks on the people ever enacted.

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States regarding campaign finance laws and free speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It was argued in 2009 and decided in 2010. The court held 5–4 that the free speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, including nonprofit corporations, labor unions, and other associations.

It gives dark money and corporations more influence in our politics.

I believe they said it wasn't fair that unions could be involved in politics but corporations couldn't?

Associate Justice John Paul Stevens argued that the court's ruling represented "a rejection of the common sense of the American people, who have recognized a need to prevent corporations from undermining self government"

The decision remains highly controversial, generating much public discussion and receiving strong support and opposition from various groups. Senator Mitch McConnell commended the decision, arguing that it represented "an important step in the direction of restoring the First Amendment rights".[3] By contrast, former President Barack Obama stated that the decision "gives the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington".[4] The ruling represented a turning point on campaign finance, allowing unlimited election spending by corporations and labor unions, and setting the stage for Speechnow.org v. FEC, which authorized the creation of "Independent Expenditure Committees", more commonly known as Super PACs

Clearly the Republicans on the Supreme Court were wrong to rule the way they did.

 

[sealybobo]

The law never should have been passed and then if not, there is no lawsuit.

What law should have never been passed?

 

[pknopp]

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States regarding campaign finance laws and free speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It was argued in 2009 and decided in 2010. The court held 5–4 that the free speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, including nonprofit corporations, labor unions, and other associations.

It gives dark money and corporations more influence in our politics.

I believe they said it wasn't fair that unions could be involved in politics but corporations couldn't?

No, the law said basically that no one could be involved other than those elected politicians wanted involved.

If I wanted to get together with 50 other like minded people and place billboards stating our positions, politicians wanted to make that illegal.

There is a reason the ACLU signed on to the lawsuit.

Associate Justice John Paul Stevens argued that the court's ruling represented "a rejection of the common sense of the American people, who have recognized a need to prevent corporations from undermining self government"

The decision remains highly controversial, generating much public discussion and receiving strong support and opposition from various groups. Senator Mitch McConnell commended the decision, arguing that it represented "an important step in the direction of restoring the First Amendment rights".[3] By contrast, former President Barack Obama stated that the decision "gives the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington".[4] The ruling represented a turning point on campaign finance, allowing unlimited election spending by corporations and labor unions, and setting the stage for Speechnow.org v. FEC, which authorized the creation of "Independent Expenditure Committees", more commonly known as Super PACs

Clearly the Republicans on the Supreme Court were wrong to rule the way they did.

If politicians had simply passed a law restricting corporation money it might not have ever been challenged.

 

[pknopp]

What law should have never been passed?

The one I stated.

 

[bripat9643]

Soros contributed $128,485,971, all of it going to Democrats. Most of that funding went to the the super PAC Democracy II, which supports Democrats and liberal causes, according to CNBC's report.

The next three top donors all donated exclusively to Republicans, including Richard Uihlein, an Illinois-based billionaire and co-founder of shipping giant Uline, who contributed $80,707,168.

Seven of the top 10 individuals were Republican donors. One of the 10, founder and CEO of crypto exchange FTX Sam Bankman-Friend contributed to both parties, while Newsweb Corporation's Fred Eychaner donated to Democrats.

Sam Bankman gives a lot more DARK money to Republicans.

In fact everyone knows the rich give Democrats 25 cents for every dollar they give Republicans.

Soros has been a longtime contributor to the Democratic Party as well as funding liberal causes. In the 2020 election, he was the 20th largest individual donor

During the 2018 midterms, he contributed $20,135,586 to Democrats—making him the 7th largest individual donor of that cycle.

He's just your boogieman. For every 1 Soros there are 10 in the GOP. So go fuck yourself hypocrite. Just look how Crow has Thomas in his pocket. Busted and you still cry about Soros who donates by the book?

If you don't like Soros why did you cons pass Citizens United? It was the right wingers on the Supreme Court who did that. Do you even know what Citizens United is?

What is the source of these claims? When you say "donated,"do you meaning purly to political campains? Soros spends a lot of money elseare.

 

[The Banker]

Just pure AIDS.

Your thesis wouldn't pass the fifth grade.

Yeah, MAGA = the Deep State.

Not the war mongering Democrats in league with the FBI/CIA/DOJ/.

If anyone wondered whether you were a moron, or a liar we now have our answer:

Yes.

you are a gullible brainwashed sheep.

You were specifically targeted with lies because you were labeled one of the "persuadable" You will believe any lie you are told by fake conservative media.

The facts prove the wealthy elite have a strong hold and control over all GOP politicians and judges. This Judge Thomas scandal is just anpother example of the reality you can;t accept.

The Glorious dominion lawsuit exposed you people for being weak gullible fools. Fox news admitted they were losing viewers because they were reporting the truth. When you hear the truth, you stop watching and change the channel, that is how pathetic you are. Fox news then needed to resume telling you lies so you will continue to watch.

The facts shut you down, like always. Your MAGA trash are a bunch of phonies and they have totally played you for a sucka and a fool. They are the deep state and are controlled by the wealthy elite that hand republicans gifts and money.

The GOP are totally bought and corrupt.

 

[bripat9643]

You did no such thing. This is what you said:

"There's no comparison, moron. Soros spends billions of dollars influencing thousands of American politicians and iour goverment. All you have is one guy spending a few thousand on one justge"


1. Yes there is a comparison. George isn't even the top donor in either party. I just looked that up. A comparison would be the Koch family. Now Harlan Crow is another example.
2. Rich people spend billions of dollars influencing every Republican every day. You care?
3. You stated no law.

Of course, you didn't identify your source

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Of course, you didn't identify your source

There was a link in his post.

Who are the Biggest Donors?

Who are the biggest donors in the 2018 election cycle? See the details.

www.opensecrets.org

 

[Grumblenuts]

There was nothing passed called Citizens United.

Bunk.

The Court ultimately held in this case that the anti corruption interest is not sufficient to displace the speech in question from Citizens United and that "independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption."

The Court furthermore disagreed that corporate independent expenditures can be limited because of an interest in protecting dissenting shareholders from being compelled to fund corporate political speech. The Court held that such disagreements may be corrected by shareholders through the procedures of corporate democracy.

 

[The Banker]

I'm sure that you could look at any politician and any Justice and find the same.
It's just that one party is trying anything to get their desired outcome.

How do politicians end up multi millionaires with their salary?
How come Nan' Pelosi is such a good stock picker?

I willing to bet that there was no quid pro quo.

Give me a friggin' break.

Ahhh more excuses from the people and party of excuses. You love excuses, never seem to love taking responsibility for anything in life though.

The Republicans represent the bought and controlled puppet of the deep state. They take all the dirty money and then do the bidding of the deep state, and it goes all the way up to the Supreme court.

This is why the GOP started the Wars in the mid east, handed out trillions in massive tax breaks to the ultra wealthy, and until Biden saved the day, wouldn't allow prescription drug cost negotiations.

Judge Thomas is a corrupt deep state crook, he should be removed from the bench along with all the other fake MAGA deep state republicans.

 

[pknopp]

Bunk.

Well maybe you want to post where anything of the sort was passed.

 

[The Banker]

He did nothing.

except take millions in illegal gifts from the wealthy elite deep state that controls the entire GOP.

I think you need to look up the definition of nothing, because what he did certainly is not nothing. he should be in prison.

 

[bripat9643]

There was a link in his post.

Who are the Biggest Donors?

Who are the biggest donors in the 2018 election cycle? See the details.

www.opensecrets.org

It only lists direct contributions to political campaigns. It doesn't include all the money given to leftwing organizations like Media Matters. Sorros has hundreds of these on his payroll.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Well maybe you want to post where anything of the sort was passed.

Obsess over the word "passed" if you can't help yourself. Meanwhile, named landmark SC revisions or new "legislating(s)" from the bench effectively amount to "passed" for the rest of us.

 

[pknopp]

Obsess over the word "passed" if you can't help yourself. Meanwhile, named landmark SC revisions or new "legislating(s)" from the bench effectively amount to "passed" for the rest of us.

Ruled on. The law itself was passed in a very bipartisan manner and that is where the problem started.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It only lists direct contributions to political campaigns. It doesn't include all the money given to leftwing organizations like Media Matters. Sorros has hundreds of these on his payroll.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Ruled on. The law itself was passed in a very bipartisan manner and that is where the problem started.

Bunk again. McCain-Feingold itself was simply a legislative branch revision of previously "passed" law. No more or less "law" than anything revised by the SC.
Kindly cut the semantic crap.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

you are a gullible brainwashed sheep.

You were specifically targeted with lies because you were labeled one of the "persuadable" You will believe any lie you are told by fake conservative media.

The facts prove the wealthy elite have a strong hold and control over all GOP politicians and judges.

"The facts".

What "facts", Monopoly Man? (Who probably lives in his mommy's basement.)

The wealthy elite have control over the establishments of both parties - but there is a much bigger crack on the Republican side of the aisle. The Mitch McConnell wing is with the Democrats as the Uniparty that slavishly serves Big Business/Military interests.

But the Trump wing threatens their cozy little dynamic. Trump was the first Pres not to start a new war since Carter. Not good for business!

And he has his own money, so he simply can't be bought. Also not good for business!

Furthermore, even Democrats like strategist Ruy Texeira (who recently wrote a column about this replete with actual receipts and data) now heartily acknowledge that the Dems have lost working class voters. They now vote Republican, and the most affluent districts vote Democrat. This is reality, whether you want to roll the clock back to 2008 or not.

So continue to lecture us all about the "wealthy elite" while mindlessly repeating the corporate media lies.

We all enjoy the rich irony oh so much.

 

[pknopp]

Bunk again. McCain-Feingold itself was simply a legislative branch revision of previously "passed" law. No more or less "law" than anything revised by the SC.
Kindly cut the semantic crap.

There is a reason the ACLU signed on to the lawsuit.