Clarence Thomas Is Not a Black Hero—He's an Enemy of Black People

[jotathought]

Watch the people who come to the defense of Thomas.

Why wouldn't we defend black Americans?

 

[IM2]

What have whites done that’s so bad?

Are these things encoded into our constitution and law? If so, why are you still here and not back in Africa? Why are Africans clamoring to get into America?


Your narrative isn’t adding up.

You can stop trying this tactic white boy. This thread is about Clarence Thomas not your fucked up racist ass opinion about black people. Clarence Thomas is no hero to blacks, but he is one to stale ass white racists who want blacks returned to Jim Crow or wp5se such as you.

 

[IM2]

Why wouldn't we defend black Americans?

You only defend black Americans who help regress black people.

 

[White 6]

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Clarence Thomas Is Not a Black Hero—He's an Enemy of Black People​

Enjoy the thread.

 

[IM2]

The Clarence Thomas myth that refuses to die​

It’s the horror movie villain that won’t die, the pop song you can’t get out of your head, the out-of-town guest that just won’t leave.

It’s a belief that’s stuck like a tick in the collective memory of some white conservatives.

It’s the notion that black people despise Clarence Thomas because he’s a conservative.

It’s not only a myth but a con.

Thomas isn’t despised in the black community because he’s a conservative. Many dislike him because they see him as a hypocrite and a traitor.

Yet many white conservatives keep recycling the same selective stories about Thomas. These stories don’t just distort black culture – they carry an undercurrent of racism.

He’s not the only black leader who talks about self-reliance
But the way some white conservatives tell the story of Thomas’ rise from poverty also perpetuates racist stereotypes. They imply that Thomas and his hard working, no excuses grandfather are unusual characters in the black community. They depict Thomas as this lonely apostle of self-reliance, as if most black people prefer sitting on the couch drinking Kool-Aid while waiting for the government to send them a check.

Here’s some news: Black people have been practicing self-reliance for centuries. We’ve had to, for survival. We know through bitter experience that white America’s investment in racial equality is sporadic. Racial progress has always been followed by a “whitelash.”

Thomas’ stern grandfather is a familiar figure in the black community. Plenty of black people can tell you stories of grandparents, pastors, teachers, and coaches who all preached the same message: Rely on yourself, because you can’t rely on white people.

It’s almost impossible to find a revered black leader who didn’t preach some form of this message.

He cast an ‘atrocious’ vote against black America​

There’s something else many white conservatives miss: The contradiction between Thomas’ words and actions.

Thomas has lectured blacks about not defining themselves as racial victims. He once criticized civil rights leaders who he said, “B*tch, b*tch, b*tch, moan and moan and whine” about the Reagan administration.

But when his nomination to the Supreme Court was threatened by Anita Hill’s allegations of sexual harassment, he played the race card by saying he was the victim of a “high-tech lynching.”

Thomas has lectured blacks about the evils of affirmative action. Yet he made it into Yale Law School because of an affirmative action program.

“His entire career is a result of thrusts for diversity that he would deny in others,”
-Lawrence Goldstone, author of “On Account of Race: The Supreme Court, White Supremacy, and the Ravaging of African American Voting Rights
But it’s Thomas’ voting record that has cemented the cynicism many blacks feel toward him.

Critics say he has consistently voted against black people as well as other marginalized groups: women, LGBTQ people, religious minorities and death row inmates.

He is the first Supreme Court justice to openly criticize the high court’s landmark civil rights ruling, Brown v. Board of Education.

And he joined a 2013 high court decision – Shelby County v. Holder – that eviscerated the Voting Rights Act, the crown jewel of the civil rights movement.

Here is Thomas providing a crucial vote to cripple legislation for which the proponents of racial justice marched, bled, and in some instances died.
-Randall Kennedy, author and law professor

His vote on Shelby contributed to “the most unjustifiable and hurtful decision imposed on black America in the past half century,” Randall Kennedy, an author and professor at Harvard Law School, wrote in a recent article on Thomas.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/07/us/clarence-thomas-white-conservatives-blake/index.html

"There is nothing you can do to get past black skin. I don’t care how educated you are, how good you are at what you do – you’ll never … be seen as equal to whites."
-Clarence Thomas

Here we see that Thomas has internalized racism and has accepted that he himself no matter what can be equal to whites. That is what these right wingers here would call black victimhood if a black person who has not helped support the right-wing racist agenda made this comment. But Thomas is hailed as a great man because he's carrying the bucket like a good lawn jockey.

 

[Vel]

This is how blacks feel about Thomas. But right-wing whites love him. Why? Because Thomas is working to help them get their pro white agenda accomplished. They consider anyone black who opposes black progress as independent thinkers. Funny how that is.

Clarence Thomas Is Not a Black Hero—He's an Enemy of Black People​

Throughout Black History Month, we recall the achievements of Black Americans. These include the champions of the Civil Rights Movement—monumental leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, Fannie Lou Hamer, and Ella Baker. The first Black Supreme Court Justice, Thurgood Marshall, also looms large; Marshall fought for civil rights long before assuming his rightful position in the highest court in the land. Marshall led the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and was known for fighting segregation in schools, a fight which culminated in the landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision.

That type of legacy is deserving of the utmost regard and respect during Black History Month and every other day—and it stands in stark contrast to his successor on the court, Justice Clarence Thomas.

Thomas was nominated by Republican President George H.W. Bush and has served on the high court since 1991. But he is no Thurgood Marshall. Where Marshall fought tooth and nail to upend threats to equity, civil rights, and justice, Thomas fights to take America back. He fights against the working class and minorities, finding unique ways to fight against the Black community he hails from in the process. It's why Black Americans shouldn't celebrate Justice Thomas during Black History Month. He simply doesn't deserve it.

The Black community doesn't celebrate Thomas because Thomas does everything in his power to make life worse for us.

Black History Month isn't a time to glorify a threat to Black progress. Clarence Thomas has proven himself time and time again to be an enemy to Black people. Who needs white supremacists when a Black man who benefited from civil rights wins is leading the charge to destroy the very policies that made his career possible?

MSN

 

[WEATHER53]

The Clarence Thomas myth that refuses to die​

It’s the horror movie villain that won’t die, the pop song you can’t get out of your head, the out-of-town guest that just won’t leave.

It’s a belief that’s stuck like a tick in the collective memory of some white conservatives.

It’s the notion that black people despise Clarence Thomas because he’s a conservative.

It’s not only a myth but a con.

Thomas isn’t despised in the black community because he’s a conservative. Many dislike him because they see him as a hypocrite and a traitor.

Yet many white conservatives keep recycling the same selective stories about Thomas. These stories don’t just distort black culture – they carry an undercurrent of racism.

He’s not the only black leader who talks about self-reliance
But the way some white conservatives tell the story of Thomas’ rise from poverty also perpetuates racist stereotypes. They imply that Thomas and his hard working, no excuses grandfather are unusual characters in the black community. They depict Thomas as this lonely apostle of self-reliance, as if most black people prefer sitting on the couch drinking Kool-Aid while waiting for the government to send them a check.

Here’s some news: Black people have been practicing self-reliance for centuries. We’ve had to, for survival. We know through bitter experience that white America’s investment in racial equality is sporadic. Racial progress has always been followed by a “whitelash.”

Thomas’ stern grandfather is a familiar figure in the black community. Plenty of black people can tell you stories of grandparents, pastors, teachers, and coaches who all preached the same message: Rely on yourself, because you can’t rely on white people.

It’s almost impossible to find a revered black leader who didn’t preach some form of this message.

He cast an ‘atrocious’ vote against black America​

There’s something else many white conservatives miss: The contradiction between Thomas’ words and actions.

Thomas has lectured blacks about not defining themselves as racial victims. He once criticized civil rights leaders who he said, “B*tch, b*tch, b*tch, moan and moan and whine” about the Reagan administration.

But when his nomination to the Supreme Court was threatened by Anita Hill’s allegations of sexual harassment, he played the race card by saying he was the victim of a “high-tech lynching.”

Thomas has lectured blacks about the evils of affirmative action. Yet he made it into Yale Law School because of an affirmative action program.

“His entire career is a result of thrusts for diversity that he would deny in others,”
-Lawrence Goldstone, author of “On Account of Race: The Supreme Court, White Supremacy, and the Ravaging of African American Voting Rights
But it’s Thomas’ voting record that has cemented the cynicism many blacks feel toward him.

Critics say he has consistently voted against black people as well as other marginalized groups: women, LGBTQ people, religious minorities and death row inmates.

He is the first Supreme Court justice to openly criticize the high court’s landmark civil rights ruling, Brown v. Board of Education.

And he joined a 2013 high court decision – Shelby County v. Holder – that eviscerated the Voting Rights Act, the crown jewel of the civil rights movement.

Here is Thomas providing a crucial vote to cripple legislation for which the proponents of racial justice marched, bled, and in some instances died.
-Randall Kennedy, author and law professor

His vote on Shelby contributed to “the most unjustifiable and hurtful decision imposed on black America in the past half century,” Randall Kennedy, an author and professor at Harvard Law School, wrote in a recent article on Thomas.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/07/us/clarence-thomas-white-conservatives-blake/index.html

"There is nothing you can do to get past black skin. I don’t care how educated you are, how good you are at what you do – you’ll never … be seen as equal to whites."
-Clarence Thomas

Here we see that Thomas has internalized racism and has accepted that he himself no matter what can be equal to whites. That is what these right wingers here would call black victimhood if a black person who has not helped support the right-wing racist agenda made this comment. But Thomas is hailed as a great man because he's carrying the bucket like a good lawn jockey.

I see Thomas as a man msn
Not a black man

 

[OKTexas]

How the hell would your white ass know what most blacks don't know? Answer: You don't. Most blacks DO know of Thomases record. Thurgood Marshalls record speaks for itself, and it began long before he became a justice. You don't know squat about him. And don't try that abortion bullshit white man.

Poor little race baiter, it's you that seem to be unconcerned with what could have been 60 million black souls that never got a chance at life. Who's the real racist here, you and Marshalls ilk are some of the best disciples Margret Sanger ever had for her negro solution. Well that and you folks killing each other in the streets in unimaginable numbers. Just think how much political power blacks could have had, if you weren't so hell bent on your own destruction.

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[j-mac]

This is how blacks feel about Thomas. But right-wing whites love him. Why? Because Thomas is working to help them get their pro white agenda accomplished. They consider anyone black who opposes black progress as independent thinkers. Funny how that is.

Clarence Thomas Is Not a Black Hero—He's an Enemy of Black People​

Throughout Black History Month, we recall the achievements of Black Americans. These include the champions of the Civil Rights Movement—monumental leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, Fannie Lou Hamer, and Ella Baker. The first Black Supreme Court Justice, Thurgood Marshall, also looms large; Marshall fought for civil rights long before assuming his rightful position in the highest court in the land. Marshall led the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and was known for fighting segregation in schools, a fight which culminated in the landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision.

That type of legacy is deserving of the utmost regard and respect during Black History Month and every other day—and it stands in stark contrast to his successor on the court, Justice Clarence Thomas.

Thomas was nominated by Republican President George H.W. Bush and has served on the high court since 1991. But he is no Thurgood Marshall. Where Marshall fought tooth and nail to upend threats to equity, civil rights, and justice, Thomas fights to take America back. He fights against the working class and minorities, finding unique ways to fight against the Black community he hails from in the process. It's why Black Americans shouldn't celebrate Justice Thomas during Black History Month. He simply doesn't deserve it.

The Black community doesn't celebrate Thomas because Thomas does everything in his power to make life worse for us.

Black History Month isn't a time to glorify a threat to Black progress. Clarence Thomas has proven himself time and time again to be an enemy to Black people. Who needs white supremacists when a Black man who benefited from civil rights wins is leading the charge to destroy the very policies that made his career possible?

MSN

Racist

 

[OKTexas]

Another white racist defender of Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas is why racism against blacks still exists.

WTF are you snorting? No one man is that powerful.

.

 

[OKTexas]

You only defend black Americans who help regress black people.

You don't need any help with that. LBJ put you in self destruct mode.

.

 

[IM2]

I see Thomas as a man msn
Not a black man

Spare me the fake colorblind bullshit. You see Thomas as a black man because that's what he is.

 

[IM2]

Clarence Thomas Is What He Wrongly Accuses Black Folks of Being​

Thomas has elevated “personal responsibility” into a prerequisite for citizenship. Yet he fails his own test.​

For four decades, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has extolled the importance of “personal responsibility.” He has chastised those who “make excuses for black Americans” and argued there is a need to “emphasize black self-help.” He has denigrated affirmative action programs on the grounds that they “create a narcotic of dependency” where there should be “an ethic of responsibility and independence.” He bemoans the “ideology of victimhood” that allows the marginalized to “make demands on society for reparations and recompense.”

In light of recent revelations that Thomas has been showered by billionaire Harlan Crow with over two decades’ worth of getaways on superyachts and private jets and various other gifts, none of which he ever reported, the jurist’s long con of principled advocacy for Black self-reliance and opposition to white largesse has finally run its course. Turns out, Thomas was never against reparations—he just wanted them for himself. He is and always has been precisely what he wrongly accuses Black folks of being.

It’s been a con run by a self-serving fabulist all along. In 1980, Thomas caught the attention of the incoming president, Ronald Reagan, with a speech in which he used the “welfare queen” stereotype against his own sister. “She gets mad when the mailman is late with her welfare check. That is how dependent she is,” Thomas told an audience of fellow Black Republicans. “What’s worse is that now her kids feel entitled to the check too. They have no motivation for doing better or getting out of that situation.” A 1991 Los Angeles Times investigation found Thomas’s sister was, in fact, an underpaid single mother who used the social safety net during a brief rough patch; her children weren’t the entitled layabouts depicted by Thomas, either.

A few years later, while serving as the second-highest-ranking Black official in the Reagan administration, Thomas observed that “to be accepted into the conservative ranks and to be treated with some degree of respect, a black was required to become a caricature of sorts, providing sideshows of anti-black quips and attacks,” adding that Black conservatives “must be against affirmative action and against welfare. And your opposition had to be adamant and constant.” Forty years later, it’s hard not to think Thomas wasn’t so much airing grievances as reassuring his white conservative compatriots that he understood the assignment.

Consider that there may be no single person in American history who has benefited more from affirmative action than Clarence Thomas. It is an oft-repeated fact that Thomas got into Yale Law School based on race-conscious admissions. Claiming he was “humiliated” by possessing a law degree that “bore the taint of racial preference,” he went on to become a prominent opponent of affirmative action—even suggesting that race-based policies represented the new slavery or Jim Crow, but for white people. Nonetheless, Thomas continued to benefit from his race long after his days at Yale.

And while Thomas castigates Black folks for blaming their problems on racism, he seems to carry a full deck of race cards everywhere he goes. He insists that all public criticisms of him are the result of his status as a Black conservative who refuses to “follow in this cult-like way something that Blacks are supposed to believe.” For a party of people who constantly accuse Black folks of being “race grifters,” white Republicans seem loath to recognize those in their midst, doing their bidding.

Clarence Thomas Is What He Wrongly Accuses Black Folks of Being

Thomas has elevated “personal responsibility” into a prerequisite for citizenship. Yet he fails his own test.

www.thenation.com

 

[IM2]

You don't need any help with that. LBJ put you in self destruct mode.

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Bullshit. It's time whites like you stopped repeating this lie.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Momentary Pause to remind all of the thread topic and to stay on the thread topic of the debate.

Clarence Thomas Is Not a Black Hero—He's an Enemy of Black People​

Enjoy the thread.

This thread is RUBBER ROOM CRINGE
"Enjoy"

 

[IM2]

This thread is RUBBER ROOM CRINGE
"Enjoy"

No it really isn't. It is a revealing look at why whites support black individuals like Clarence Thomas over more decent and ethical black leaders.

 

[SeaMajor7]

No it really isn't. It is a revealing look at why whites support black individuals like Clarence Thomas over more decent and ethical black leaders.

Like WHOM????? It doesn't matter, you're a race-baiting shit-stirring asshole and this thread is CRAP.

 

[IM2]

WTF are you snorting? No one man is that powerful.

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According to whites like you Obama was. The right wing white push of black sellouts involves people like Thomas who could erase the problem of systemic racism but won't because he would lose his status. Because he is in a position to do this but he does everything in his power to continue it, Thomas is one reason what white racism continues.

 

[IM2]

Like WHOM????? It doesn't matter, you're a race-baiting shit-stirring asshole and this thread is CRAP.

You are the race baiter, you and every other white person here with your attitude. Nobody is stirring anything, it's just that some of us refuse to tolerate the continuing racism of those like you. Had I created a thread praising Clarence Thomas, you would be all for it.

 

[SeaMajor7]

You are the race baiter, you and every other white person here with your attitude. Nobody is stirring anything, it's just that some of us refuse to tolerate the continuing racism of those like you. Had I created a thread praising Clarence Thomas, you would be all for it.

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