Clarifying Obama's Immigration Policy

[PoliticalChic]

In light of the tragic events in Paris yesterday, the ideas in this thread are .....prescient.


1. In a nutshell, this is it:
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008



2. That quote alone explains why Barack Obama was never eligible to be the President of the United States. The religion of Leftism has its search for Utopia…albeit of this sphere…and two famous statements encapsulate the search:

a. 'There are those that look at things the way they are, and askwhy?I dream of things that never were, and askwhy not ?' Attributed to Robert Kennedy.

b. The other is from the words of John Lennon’s song, “Imagine.” One is asked to imagine that there is no heaven or hell, that everyone lives for today; that there are no countries, nothing to kill for, and no religion; there are no possessions- therefore no greed nor hunger.

[Lennon stated: "'Imagine', which says: 'Imagine that there was no more religion, no more country, no more politics,'is virtually the Communist manifesto,even though I'm not particularly a Communist and I do not belong to any movement."
Imagine (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]



3. Conservatives don’t dream of things that never were nearly so much as Liberals do. We usually dream the same dream that our forefathers did: an America that is identified by the “American Trinity” of “Liberty,” “In God We Trust,” and “E Pluribus Unum.” And, judging by history, we have seen that ‘utopian dreams’ are more likely to end up as nightmares.




4. In many ways Obama has endeavored to 'fundamentally transform' America, and ignoring the Constitution is one.
But, perhaps, most significant is by diluting the religious, moral nature of our republic....and immigration policy has been the mechanism.


a. "The Obama administration’s plan to resettle nearly 200,000 [Middle Eastern] refugees in the U.S. over the next two years will have real fiscal andnational security implicationsat a time when the U.S. has taken in more migrants than any other country, ...

... since September 11, 2001,the U.S. has resettled about 1.5 million immigrants from Muslim nations.Some 90 percent receive on food stamps, and 70 percent are receiving free healthcare and cash welfare."
Jeff Sessions Slams Obama Admin’s Plans To Resettle Nearly 200,000 Refugees - Breitbart





What is it about Muslim émigrés that so appeals to Barack Obama?

" We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

 

[JakeStarkey]

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[PoliticalChic]

What is it about Muslim émigrés that so appeals to Barack Obama?


One would imagine that the President of the United States would be about strengthening the nation, and keeping it protected.

Is that what is behind bring in, unvetted, hundreds of thousands of individuals representing a culture known for terrorism and barbarism?





5. "Our strength was built on our values....The Left destroyed the church. They've destroyed all semblance of religion and morality. They've destroyed the American principles of private property, free enterprise, self-reliance, and personal responsibility. They've replaced them with atheism, hedonism, dependency, and political correctness.

When we were a moral and religious people, dedicated to individual liberty, personal responsibility, private property, and limited government, we were invincible." Savage, "Government Zero," p. 1556-157


".... a moral and religious people...."



"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams


The only religions tradition referred to therein is the Judeo-Christian one.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. But our Constitution declares 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.'


It doesn't restrict said rights to only the Judeo-Christian ones.....does it?




That depends on how well one understands the different versions of what are considered 'religions.


a. Although Christianity in its many varieties was the religion of the original colonies, Christianity does not preach operational dominance over the body politic in America. Alexis de Tocqueville compared this aspect to Islam:

“Mohammed professed to derive from Heaven, and has inserted in the Koran, not only religious doctrines, but political maxims, civil and criminal laws, and theories of science. The Gospel, on the contrary, speaks only of the general relations of men to God and to each other, beyond which it inculcates and imposes no point of faith. This alone, besides a thousand other reasons, would suffice to prove that the former of these religions will never long predominate in a cultivated and democratic age, while the latter is destined to retain its sway at these as at all other periods.” Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” vol.2, p. 23.



b. "Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet,....“And until you recognize that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it."
Admiral Lyons on Obama’s Strategy: ‘It’s Anti-American ... Pro-Islamic, It’s Pro-Iranian, and Pro-Muslim Brotherhood!’

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. I've seen interviews with the Republican candidates for President, 'journalists' asking the gotch'a questions about the world......

Yet we have a President who has insinuated hundreds of thousands of Muslims into the country. Shouldn't he be asked about this:

" Years ago, when Turkey Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan [current president of Turkey] was the mayor of Istanbul, he gave a fiery speech to a crowd of followers where he proclaimed that "Democracy is merely a train that we ride until we reach our goal. Mosques are our military barracks, minarets are our spears, and domes are our helmets.”
The Delusions of Caliph Erdogan



And this:

"....Thursday, a representative of the terrorist group the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) declared the organization's intention to continue its brutal sweep all the way to Washington, D.C. He also labeled cowardly the American use of drone strikes in the Middle East:

"I say to America that the Islamic Caliphate has been established. Don't be cowards and attack us with drones. Instead send your soldiers, the ones we humiliated in Iraq. We will humiliate them everywhere, God willing, and we will raise the flag of Allah in the White House."
ISIS: We will raise our flag in the White House




"....NYTimes reports the Obama administration is willing to accept to 100,000 annually in 2017, a significant increase over the current worldwide cap of 70,000. Kerry further added that the US wouldexplore ways to increase the limit beyond 100,000 in future years..."
Obama Will "Accept" 100,000 Refugees In The US Starting 2017 | Zero Hedge



What is it about Muslim refugees that so appeals to Barack Obama?

" We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

 

[Timmy]

Hey Coco puffs can we get some context on where you picked out that one line quote from?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hey Coco puffs can we get some context on where you picked out that one line quote from?

Which quote?

 

[mudwhistle]

I guess these attacks in Paris has put a crimp in Obama's plan to bring more terrorists into our midst, but only temporarily.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I guess these attacks in Paris has put a crimp in Obama's plan to bring more terrorists into our midst, but only temporarily.

Nah.....not even a moment's hesitation.

Watch.

 

[the_human_being]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

 

[Theowl32]

I guess these attacks in Paris has put a crimp in Obama's plan to bring more terrorists into our midst, but only temporarily.

I doubt it has even put a crimp in it. The guy is an American hating, muslim loving loser. Period. Bring em all in.

They will weather this for a little while and they will march on with their plans of bringing automatic liberal votes into the US so they can one day wipe their asses with the constitution that they hate.

Their dumb followers do not know and certainly do not care that the constitution is what gives we the people the power over the those who govern us.

They are that dumb that they believe in the mythical utopia better known as socialism. Of course they utterly and completely blind to the fact that so many people are trying to ESCAPE those utopias to come here. Yeah, socialism must be just great. Uhh huh.

Not one of these snot nosed liberals (except of course for the rich ones who claim to love the poor and have no clue about life) have actually lived in pure socialist conditions. They certainly have never tried starting their own business, or else they would hate the socialist style that we have in this country now.

They are losers.

 

[mudwhistle]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

Some of them will be planted 43 miles from my house.

 

[PoliticalChic]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

Some of them will be planted 43 miles from my house.

Lock 'n' load.

 

[Theowl32]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

Some of them will be planted 43 miles from my house.

 

[the_human_being]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

Some of them will be planted 43 miles from my house.

Yeah. I'm in Pensacola. They'll be coming here to the beaches.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. As has been said often, and correctly, for Liberals, feeling passes for knowing.

Somehow, Liberals/Progressives/Democrats have convinced themselves, contrary to all experience, that the open arms and freedom of America will tame the Islamofascists. On that misapprehension, they have accepted the flawed policies of Obama.


"Perhaps not unexpected, as the West offers freedoms unheard of in Islamic countries, 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims fleeing from places where their religion is the official doctrine. They flee to the West, for opportunity, and personal safety, as well as said freedom.


But...the oddity is that, while settling in the West, many of these refugees begin to develop a hatred for their new home...and plan to take revenge on it with only its final destruction as the fitting punishment.


Even less understandable, those Muslims who settle and assimilate often have children, brought up in the West, yet identify as opposition to it, and desire its annihilation.


Of course, one can blame Islam...but consider the view from the other side. True, one may see the problem with an atavistic 7th century view of the world...but, for the Muslim it is the fault of the West rejecting the idea of God's immutable will, revealed to his Prophet in the form of an unchangeable code of law."
Roger Scruton, "The West and The Rest."



Yet Obama and his 'amen corner' refuse to acknowledge this fact: Democrats bring in hundreds of thousands of them.



Of course, it could simply be boilerplate stupidity.

 

[Katzndogz]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

While there are a few families of refugees, the 10,000 recently settled in Louisiana are all young men 17-35.

 

[the_human_being]

THEY ARE HERE!!

BREAKING! First 10,000 Syrian Refugees Arrive In LA: Estimated Cost To Taxpayers For Family Of Four Is $257,480 » 100percentfedUp.com

While there are a few families of refugees, the 10,000 recently settled in Louisiana are all young men 17-35.

Yes but apparently that raised no red flag to Homeland Security.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Hey Coco puffs can we get some context on where you picked out that one line quote from?

Which quote?

For starters, your first quote in the OP:

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008
The context within which you cast it is so far from the intended, it shows you as a charlatan, a fraud! Here is the quote in its full context, five days before the 2008 election:

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor." < Barack Obama, October 30, 2008 >

The context of what Obama ACTUALLY said is not at all what you twisted it to be. Hell, you even MISQUOTED it to make it a stand alone sentence to further your perfidy!

You're a phony and a fraud, Chica!

 

[Siete]