Climate Change; Can we afford to - not - fix it?

[Dagosa]

Evolution has nothing to do with global climate patterns.

Yes or no….

No, its not about evolution. Thats just another whacked out theory that can not be proven.

Yes or no !

 

[Dagosa]

No, its not about evolution. Thats just another whacked out theory that can not be proven.

Do you even know what a theory is in science ?

 

[Dagosa]

I'm talking about the diseases we already got rid of years ago. Like measles or polio. You talking about covid? That was man made, climate had no part of it.

Climate change has everything to do with immigration and diseases.

 

[Dagosa]

Evolution has nothing to do with global climate patterns.

Can we take that as a “no” ?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Do you even know what a theory is in science ?

Sure do. I went to school studying theories in math and geology and then applied it in hydrology and hydrocarbons.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Climate change has everything to do with immigration and diseases.

The Aztecs got it right, Human sacrifice will suffice!/sarc
The demented LEFT are driven by lust for control; that includes POPULATION.
You follow DOGMA, not SCIENCE!

 

[Independent thinker]

Agreed. A huge increase in the population of any species can have effect on the environment for sure. But climate change? I don't think so. If it has any effect it would be so small it would be difficult to measure.

The world governments would do far better to be researching and finding ways for people to thrive in spite of inevitable climate change.

Yes. Fighting mother nature is a fool's errand. I'm not against taking reasonable actions to be greener but we are better off spending money to deal with the effects of Climate Change than we are in trying to fight mother nature. Only an idiot thinks we can defeat mother nature.

 

[Foxfyre]

Yes. Fighting mother nature is a fool's errand. I'm not against taking reasonable actions to be greener but we are better off spending money to deal with the effects of Climate Change than we are in trying to fight mother nature. Only an idiot thinks we can defeat mother nature.

But we can devise ways to improve our property and safeguard lives so that Mother Nature doesn't do so much damage. We should be finding ways to desalinate ocean water on a large scale to grow crops, provide potable water etc. We should not be using good farmland to grow corn for ethanol or whatever that does not improve anybody's life.

And we should be moving people out of food plains, both coastal and riverland, and stop trying to pretend that the violence and inevitability of weather events are anything other than what has always been.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There has always been extreme weather events (EWE) of all kinds, so it's difficult to point at any one EWE and say it was caused by climate change. But we don't have to prove any single EWE was caused by climate change to know that climate change is costing us ever greater losses. This graph on the NOAA website shows that since 1980 EWE ( described as those events with losses in excess of one billion dollars in inflation adjusted dollars ) have gone from 3 - 6 per year to now where we are having 15 - 20..


We can't say any particular EWE is caused by climate change, but we can say with certainty that we are sustaining 15 - 20 billion ( many are multi-billion) dollar loss events in excess of what we had before the rapid global warming over the last four decades.

Total losses due to Billion Dollar EWE are now more than 2 1/2 Trillion dollars.

When we can no longer afford to repair our infrastructure, or simply can no longer keep up the pace of needed repairs we will wonder why solving
our fossil fuels dependency was resisted at all.

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You can't fix nature lol

 

[jknowgood]

Nope, it’s about evolution and the rate of change in our climate faster than our species can adapt. All diseases are part of the conversation.
Do you believe in evolution ? Yes or no.

I believe covid was a man made virus funded by Fauci. No climate change was involved.

 

[jknowgood]

Climate change has everything to do with immigration and diseases.

No it doesn't, just like climate change happens naturally and has for millions of years. We have nothing to do with it.

 

[toobfreak]

America had massive snow falls this past winter. And it is apparent this winter will be just as bad.

Actually, they are forecasting an El Nino winter pattern this year which may lead to a drier winter for folks towards the north. Wetter to the south.

 

[Dagosa]

No it doesn't, just like climate change happens naturally and has for millions of years. We have nothing to do with it.

Obviously you have little to no medical or science knowledge. Neither do you have a clue what climate change is really about. Time spent at any of the hundreds of climate science would do wonders to lessen your ignorance.

 

[Dagosa]

No, its not about evolution. Thats just another whacked out theory that can not be proven.

Btw, if you knew anything about science, theories aren’t “proven”. You’re confused. Typically.

 

[EMH]

but we are better off spending money to deal with the effects of Climate Change

and what are those so-called "effects?"

More canes? Nope, strongest decade on record still the 1940s, amazing in the "warming" oceans....

Ocean rise? Show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of a landmark "sinking."

Statue of Liberty - no
Hawaii 5-0 beach - no
Venice - no


In order to understand the effects of climate change, it helps to actually discover what causes it..

Since Co2 does nothing, what does cause Earth climate change?

The first part is understanding what is climate and what is weather. Climate is the parameters of Earth that allow certain ranges of weather. We don't get Cat 10 canes now, but we would if Earth had no ice. What are the parameters of climate that can change? Ocean levels Atmospheric...

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[EMH]

Do you even know what a theory is in science ?

Can you explain a map of the Arctic yet...???

The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

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[EMH]

theories aren’t “proven”.

Actually theories are proven or disproven with DATA, data like highly correlated satellite and balloon data showing NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2....

 

[Dagosa]

Actually theories are proven or disproven with DATA, data like highly correlated satellite and balloon data showing NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2....

Wrong. You aren’t a science person are you ? Only an ignoramuses keeps following Tuckerisms.

 

[Dagosa]

Can you explain a map of the Arctic yet...???

The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

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That’s 10 straight idiotic claims you made. You can’t tell us if it’s a picture in the winter or summer can you....
It’s called Snow ice dufus.

 

[The Duke]

There has always been extreme weather events (EWE) of all kinds, so it's difficult to point at any one EWE and say it was caused by climate change. But we don't have to prove any single EWE was caused by climate change to know that climate change is costing us ever greater losses. This graph on the NOAA website shows that since 1980 EWE ( described as those events with losses in excess of one billion dollars in inflation adjusted dollars ) have gone from 3 - 6 per year to now where we are having 15 - 20..


We can't say any particular EWE is caused by climate change, but we can say with certainty that we are sustaining 15 - 20 billion ( many are multi-billion) dollar loss events in excess of what we had before the rapid global warming over the last four decades.

Total losses due to Billion Dollar EWE are now more than 2 1/2 Trillion dollars.

When we can no longer afford to repair our infrastructure, or simply can no longer keep up the pace of needed repairs we will wonder why solving
our fossil fuels dependency was resisted at all.

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The best fiscal decision would be to ignore climate kooks entirely.

Possibly the best environmental and humanitarian decision as well.