CNBC: Democrats quickly call for tighter gun laws after Las Vegas shooting massacre

[Brain357]

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[CrusaderFrank]

Source: CNBC.COM
Article: Democrat on Las Vegas shooting massacre: 'Time for Congress to get off its a-- and do something'

"Following the shooting, some top Democrats — often proponents of tighter restrictions on guns — urged the Republican-controlled Congress to take action to prevent similar mass shootings.


"This must stop. It is positively infuriating that my colleagues in Congress are so afraid of the gun industry that they pretend there aren't public policy responses to this epidemic," said Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., in a statement. "There are, and the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference. It's time for Congress to get off its a-- and do something."

Well it certainly didn't take long for the buzzards-D to form up and start picking the corpses clean of any politically advantageous morsels they could get their bloody beaks on.

One wonders why the Democrats didn't pass any of this gun control legislation back when they had a lock on Congress in 2009, guess there wasn't any political advantage in it for 'em then.

Ban machine guns!

we need more cameras and a bigger police state

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what rifles did he have then?

Sadly our laws make it easy to buy weapons for mass killing.

You're flat out lying.

Our laws make it a federal felony to buy or even possess a fully automatic rifle.

But those laws are only to strip rights from the law abiding, criminals laugh at your moronic laws.

Automatic rifles are not illegal, just heavily regulated.

They are completely illegal in France, and even semi auto rifles......are banned....and that didn't stop muslim terrorists from murdering 130 people......

The attackers killed 130 people,[2] including 89 at the Bataclan theatre.[13] Another 413[14] people were injured,[15] almost 100 seriously.[5][6]

Yes and in France it took a group of terrorists to do it. Here we have mass shootings regularly with guns bought legally and it doesn't take a whole group of terrorists.

The population of France is about 67 million people. The population of the USA is about 320 million people. Out of 320 million people, we have a mass shooting about once a year or so.

 

[2aguy]

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

Since you know that the Gun Violence Archive includes gang bangers shooting up dice games and parties, posting it over and over shows you to be a troll....

 

[Brain357]

So what rifles did he have then?

Sadly our laws make it easy to buy weapons for mass killing.

You're flat out lying.

Our laws make it a federal felony to buy or even possess a fully automatic rifle.

But those laws are only to strip rights from the law abiding, criminals laugh at your moronic laws.

Automatic rifles are not illegal, just heavily regulated.

They are completely illegal in France, and even semi auto rifles......are banned....and that didn't stop muslim terrorists from murdering 130 people......

The attackers killed 130 people,[2] including 89 at the Bataclan theatre.[13] Another 413[14] people were injured,[15] almost 100 seriously.[5][6]

Yes and in France it took a group of terrorists to do it. Here we have mass shootings regularly with guns bought legally and it doesn't take a whole group of terrorists.

The population of France is about 67 million people. The population of the USA is about 320 million people. Out of 320 million people, we have a mass shooting about once a year or so.

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

 

[2aguy]

We had 6 last year, moron......71 were murdered.....cars killed 35,616 in 2015........and regularly kill over 35,000 every single year....

And with those 6 shootings....1,500,000 Americans used guns to stop violent criminals...saving more than 71 lives.....

Nope, they aren't stopping violent criminals:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Troll....the increase in gun murder in 2015 was gang members shooting other gang members as the police backed off proactive policing because of people like you....

1,500,000 Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack every year.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yep, not working:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

And every week a cop is shot and killed. This is extremely rare in civilized countries.

And obviously the mass shootings keep getting worse.

Worse? This one makes one more for 2017 over 2016.....and this guy got lucky.....

71 killed in mass public shootings in 2016.

35,161 killed in car accidents in 2015....

Which is deadlier?

You are comparing cars? Cars are driven by millons and millions of people each day. They are an important part of most everyones lives. Most peoples day wouldn't be effected if guns disappeared tomorrow.

Which actually killed more human beings...shooters in mass public shootings...71, or cars....35,161.......if you can't tell the difference in the actual number of people killed, you should get your nanny to help you.

 

[Rustic]

No American civilian needs freedom of speech...

Dumb fucking ass, the 2nd amendment is not absolute. The government controls who can legally own fully automatic weapons. And that has not affected my right to own the firearms I own. The assault weapons are easily modified to have an effective full auto fire rate. They should never have been allowed to be sold to civilians. Vegas was the inevitable result of millions of those being in civilian hands.

How many times do you have to be told? they are not easily converted you stupid ass motherfucker… LOL

How many times are you going to knowingly lie about this?

OK, show us how easily they are converted… We want to hear your vast knowledge

Put 'how to modify an ar to fire fully automatic' on google. 11,400,000 results, you filthy liar.

Show us on its done then?
You still need a machine shop and expertise to do it..

 

[Brain357]

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

Since you know that the Gun Violence Archive includes gang bangers shooting up dice games and parties, posting it over and over shows you to be a troll....

Yes it shows we have many mass shootings and our country is littered with armed criminals. This is why we lose a cop every week and mass shootings happen regularly. Too many guns.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are comparing cars? Cars are driven by millons and millions of people each day. They are an important part of most everyones lives. Most peoples day wouldn't be effected if guns disappeared tomorrow.

You don't think so? Then do this: Get a huge sign made that says WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE, hang that sign on your front porch, and get back to us in a month or so and let us know how it worked out for ya......if you're still alive.

The reason people like you are protected by guns even if you don't own one is because our laws say you can use one for protection if you need it. Any potential attacker has no guarantee that you are not armed; in fact, statistically, they have to assume you are.

Give them a guarantee that you are not armed, and see what happens.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Or it could have modified

The debate is legality...it is HIGHLY illegal to alter firearms in a way that makes them fully auto unless you have acquired the correct license.

Wrong

How to Make Your Gun Shoot Like It’s Fully Automatic—in One Easy Step – Mother Jones

That’s because, despite enabling rapid fire that mimics a fully automatic weapon, Slide Fire doesn’t appear to violate the production ban in the National Firearms Act. The law only regulates weapons that are designed to shoot “automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading.” The way the Slide Fire works, as Cottle explained to Guns America, makes it easier for semi-automatic gun owners to do what they’ve been doing anyway: “bump firing,” which is where you simulate automatic firing by rocking the gun against the trigger finger. (This practice can also lead to highly inaccurate shooting.)

The Slide Fire helps shooters increase their accuracy and number of rounds—without actually firing automatically. “You actively fire every round, and if you stop pushing forward or you take your finger off the trigger the gun stops firing. It just helps you fire the gun in semiautomatic very fast,” Cottle told the magazine.

A letter from the ATF on Slide Fire’s website certifies the part’s legality for exactly that reason. According to the letter, Slide Fire told ATF that the stock “is intended to assist persons whose hands have limited mobility.” So, basically, if you are missing a hand and need to fire a gun like Capone, the Slide Fire is for you.

Coulson, the ATF spokesman, confirmed the stock does not violate any national laws, and Stephen Halbrook, an attorney who has represented gun companies and the NRA, says “if it was even borderline illegal, ATF would have told them, no, you can’t market it. I’ve met the guys there and they’re very strict.” In 2006, the ATF revoked its approval of a strikingly similar piece, the Akins Accelerator. But the Akins Accelerator, unlike the Slide Fire, included a recoil spring in its design. (It has since been successfully relaunched without the spring.)

Fool, that does not make it military grade you silly fucker…

Hey dummy. It doesnt have to be military grade to be full auto.

True, that means its still just a sporting rifle, and no where near as reliable as military grade. Dip shit

Doesn't need to be... it's spraying .223 rounds at high velocity, with probably each going through more than one person. And clearly he wasn't reliant on

In the light of the events in Las Cegas, no one is doing a "happy dance", especially gun control advocates. We do not traffic in schadenfreude. That despicable trait is the province of those who refuse to recognize the havoc automatic weapons bring to our streets.

What's the purpose of a machine gun? It is not designed for sporting purposes. It is designed exclusively to kill as many humans as quickly as possible. No one can justify their ownership among civilians. Such weapons belong in the hands of a well regulated militia, not on American streets.

Unless specially licensed, machine guns are illegal, ya thick head!

Gee. It must take extensive engineering to modify a semi-automatic firing system to a fully automatic firing system.

Can you do it? I doubt it.

It is also against the law to do that. That would be the same kind of law you would propose to outlaw guns.

Why break just one gun control law when you can break them all?

That means people will still die!

Do you have any idea how many gun laws the San Bernadino shooters broke? I guess we should expect criminals to obey all the laws regarding guns while they are randomly killing people.

Criminals don't follow laws, eh? That's far out, man.


So, a little quiz: if we just repealed the laws banning/controlling automatic weapons, would the result be:

a) more automatic weapons
b) same number
c) fewer

And, if you make it past that grueling question and got the correct answer, would the result then be:

a) more mass shootings and/or more dead people in each mass shooting
b) no change
c) fewer deaths and/or mass shootings, because we'll all be safer at this point, given the proliferation of automatic weapons

Taaaaaake your time...

 

[2aguy]

You're flat out lying.

Our laws make it a federal felony to buy or even possess a fully automatic rifle.

But those laws are only to strip rights from the law abiding, criminals laugh at your moronic laws.

Automatic rifles are not illegal, just heavily regulated.

They are completely illegal in France, and even semi auto rifles......are banned....and that didn't stop muslim terrorists from murdering 130 people......

The attackers killed 130 people,[2] including 89 at the Bataclan theatre.[13] Another 413[14] people were injured,[15] almost 100 seriously.[5][6]

Yes and in France it took a group of terrorists to do it. Here we have mass shootings regularly with guns bought legally and it doesn't take a whole group of terrorists.

The population of France is about 67 million people. The population of the USA is about 320 million people. Out of 320 million people, we have a mass shooting about once a year or so.

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

He knows that the Gun Violence Archive doesn't follow the actual definition of mass public shootings. Why? Because according to the actual definition used by the FBI....there would only have been 6 last year in 2016....the GVA increases their numbers by listing every gang shooting at a party or over a dice game...to inflate their numbers...he knows this, and yet still links to that source.....he is a troll....trying to hide the truth and the facts from other posters...

 

[Brain357]

Nope, they aren't stopping violent criminals:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Troll....the increase in gun murder in 2015 was gang members shooting other gang members as the police backed off proactive policing because of people like you....

1,500,000 Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack every year.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yep, not working:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

And every week a cop is shot and killed. This is extremely rare in civilized countries.

And obviously the mass shootings keep getting worse.

Worse? This one makes one more for 2017 over 2016.....and this guy got lucky.....

71 killed in mass public shootings in 2016.

35,161 killed in car accidents in 2015....

Which is deadlier?

You are comparing cars? Cars are driven by millons and millions of people each day. They are an important part of most everyones lives. Most peoples day wouldn't be effected if guns disappeared tomorrow.

Which actually killed more human beings...shooters in mass public shootings...71, or cars....35,161.......if you can't tell the difference in the actual number of people killed, you should get your nanny to help you.

First we lost way more than 71. Second, what is your point? Again cars are used MILLIONS of times each day by MILLIONS of people. Guns aren't used at all by most people.

 

[basquebromance]

according to ABC's Mike Levine:
In recent months, shooting suspect Stephen Paddock sent tens of thousands of dollars to someone in the Philippines.

 

[2aguy]

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

Since you know that the Gun Violence Archive includes gang bangers shooting up dice games and parties, posting it over and over shows you to be a troll....

Yes it shows we have many mass shootings and our country is littered with armed criminals. This is why we lose a cop every week and mass shootings happen regularly. Too many guns.

6 mass shootings last year....71 killed.

cars killed 35,161 last year,
Knives killed 1,544 in 2015....

mass shooters are not a problem....cars and knives are.

 

[Brain357]

You are comparing cars? Cars are driven by millons and millions of people each day. They are an important part of most everyones lives. Most peoples day wouldn't be effected if guns disappeared tomorrow.

You don't think so? Then do this: Get a huge sign made that says WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE, hang that sign on your front porch, and get back to us in a month or so and let us know how it worked out for ya......if you're still alive.

The reason people like you are protected by guns even if you don't own one is because our laws say you can use one for protection if you need it. Any potential attacker has no guarantee that you are not armed; in fact, statistically, they have to assume you are.

Give them a guarantee that you are not armed, and see what happens.

Yes really slowing crime a lot:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

 

[Rustic]

Rustic is one of the merchants of death. He should have that branded into his forehead.

 

[2aguy]

Troll....the increase in gun murder in 2015 was gang members shooting other gang members as the police backed off proactive policing because of people like you....

1,500,000 Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack every year.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yep, not working:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

And every week a cop is shot and killed. This is extremely rare in civilized countries.

And obviously the mass shootings keep getting worse.

Worse? This one makes one more for 2017 over 2016.....and this guy got lucky.....

71 killed in mass public shootings in 2016.

35,161 killed in car accidents in 2015....

Which is deadlier?

You are comparing cars? Cars are driven by millons and millions of people each day. They are an important part of most everyones lives. Most peoples day wouldn't be effected if guns disappeared tomorrow.

Which actually killed more human beings...shooters in mass public shootings...71, or cars....35,161.......if you can't tell the difference in the actual number of people killed, you should get your nanny to help you.

First we lost way more than 71. Second, what is your point? Again cars are used MILLIONS of times each day by MILLIONS of people. Guns aren't used at all by most people.

No..we had 6. And 71 people were murdered in them.....

Cars killed 35,161 people....the 71 were intentional, illegal criminal acts. The 35,161 were accidents.....

Cars kill more people...

Knives killed 1,544 in 2015......

knives kill more people than mass shooters do.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[Nosmo King]

In the light of the events in Las Cegas, no one is doing a "happy dance", especially gun control advocates. We do not traffic in schadenfreude. That despicable trait is the province of those who refuse to recognize the havoc automatic weapons bring to our streets.

What's the purpose of a machine gun? It is not designed for sporting purposes. It is designed exclusively to kill as many humans as quickly as possible. No one can justify their ownership among civilians. Such weapons belong in the hands of a well regulated militia, not on American streets.

Unless specially licensed, machine guns are illegal, ya thick head!

Gee. It must take extensive engineering to modify a semi-automatic firing system to a fully automatic firing system.

Can you do it? I doubt it.

It is also against the law to do that. That would be the same kind of law you would propose to outlaw guns.

Why break just one gun control law when you can break them all?

That means people will still die!

Do you have any idea how many gun laws the San Bernadino shooters broke? I guess we should expect criminals to obey all the laws regarding guns while they are randomly killing people.

Here's my solution. Citizens retain all the bolt action rifles, revolvers and pump shot guns they want.

Any and all guns fitted with a semi-automatic firing system, can be loaded by means of a high capacity magazine should be illegal to own, buy, sell, manufacture, import or distribute.

Guns for sport and self defense remain legal. Guns for warfare are banned. Anyone retaining a banned weapon may keep it if it I should rendered unfireable and kept as a collector's item.

 

[Brain357]

Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive

Since you know that the Gun Violence Archive includes gang bangers shooting up dice games and parties, posting it over and over shows you to be a troll....

Yes it shows we have many mass shootings and our country is littered with armed criminals. This is why we lose a cop every week and mass shootings happen regularly. Too many guns.

6 mass shootings last year....71 killed.

cars killed 35,161 last year,
Knives killed 1,544 in 2015....

mass shooters are not a problem....cars and knives are.

Tell that to the families of the 59 killed in las vegas you piece of shit.