CNN Challenges Politico's Carson Story, Politico Backpeddles

[Cecilie1200]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

It seems "Dan Rather Syndrome" has not been eradicated in media.

(The Democrats' film version sure was though. Oy vey, such flop sweat ...)

dan rather's story was true. the one document may not have been.

bush still ran off from his service in the national guard.

ben carson is still a loony liar.

your point?

Pretty sure the point is that leftists are lying, agenda-driven fucktards. And your post just demonstrated it . . . as usual.

 

[depotoo]

From their website-
Those who are selected to attend USMA receive a college education that is unparalleled in the world with tuition, room and board, and expenses fully paid.
..
sounds like a full scholarship to me. Only in bizarro world would it not.

nice, anyone drop the race card yet, or is that a one way street for democrats ?
ben's life matters ?

do politico people hang out at the white house ? the media is hurting our nice country i think.
can anyone confirm authenticity of above poster. circa ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

So Carson might not take a hit on this after all.
Trump ain't happy.

This is how the left destroys their opposition. They make false accusations...and you end up spending more time defending yourself than talking about what is important.

And eventually, after they've repeated it enough times, they just refer back to the original accusation as though it's a proven fact, and dimwits out there believe it because hey, they heard it a lot back then.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Politico fucked up severe.

nah... small mistake.

carson's bubbemeitzer is still a bubbemeitzer.

You are a moron.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Wow...controversy around a candidate.

 

[Rustic]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

It seems "Dan Rather Syndrome" has not been eradicated in media.

(The Democrats' film version sure was though. Oy vey, such flop sweat ...)

dan rather's story was true. the one document may not have been.

bush still ran off from his service in the national guard.

ben carson is still a loony liar.

your point?

So, your saying the NG ain't sh!t, I figured as much.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

"CNN Challenges Politico's Carson Story, Politico Backpeddles"

There’s nothing in other news reports that call into question the fact that Carson has stated several times that he was offered a ‘full scholarship’ to West Point, yet this Friday Carson admitted that there was no ‘full scholarship,’ rather an ‘informal offer’ for a ‘nomination.’

So what ?

A day ago, this one didn't exist.

Will you ever make a meaningful contribution to society ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

From their website-
Those who are selected to attend USMA receive a college education that is unparalleled in the world with tuition, room and board, and expenses fully paid.
..
sounds like a full scholarship to me. Only in bizarro world would it not.

nice, anyone drop the race card yet, or is that a one way street for democrats ?
ben's life matters ?

do politico people hang out at the white house ? the media is hurting our nice country i think.
can anyone confirm authenticity of above poster. circa ?

If you want to be technical, a scholarship implies something offered only to specific people as a reward for merit, as opposed to the standard conditions offered to everyone, and West Point happens to give the same deal to everyone they accept. I don't see it as an enormous or important distinction, particularly when you consider that an appointment and acceptance to West Point is, in and of itself, a reward for merit.

Also, I really doubt that most people, before this story broke, knew that West Point is no-tuition, all-expenses-paid, in exchange for military service afterward arrangement. Certainly I have no difficulty picturing a high school senior - as Ben Carson was at the time - who's immersed in the world of college applications, interpreting it through that prism and not being aware of the unique specifics of West Point.

 

[depotoo]

To a degree, yes, but one must apply, and be accepted to receive such, just as for any other scholarship.
Definition of scholarship in English:noun

1Academic study or achievement; learning of a high level.

2A grant or payment made to support a student’s education, awarded on the basis of academic or other achievement.

and one does apply, by finding a sponsor, or having someone offer them to apply. They are selected, just as with a scholarship. I know. Had 2 family members accepted. One had someone come to them, another found a sponsor.

From their website-
Those who are selected to attend USMA receive a college education that is unparalleled in the world with tuition, room and board, and expenses fully paid.
..
sounds like a full scholarship to me. Only in bizarro world would it not.

nice, anyone drop the race card yet, or is that a one way street for democrats ?
ben's life matters ?

do politico people hang out at the white house ? the media is hurting our nice country i think.
can anyone confirm authenticity of above poster. circa ?

If you want to be technical, a scholarship implies something offered only to specific people as a reward for merit, as opposed to the standard conditions offered to everyone, and West Point happens to give the same deal to everyone they accept. I don't see it as an enormous or important distinction, particularly when you consider that an appointment and acceptance to West Point is, in and of itself, a reward for merit.

Also, I really doubt that most people, before this story broke, knew that West Point is no-tuition, all-expenses-paid, in exchange for military service afterward arrangement. Certainly I have no difficulty picturing a high school senior - as Ben Carson was at the time - who's immersed in the world of college applications, interpreting it through that prism and not being aware of the unique specifics of West Point.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

You people are the best denialists on the planet.

Carson said he was offered a full scholarship.

He was not offered a full scholarship.

He lied.

Spoken like someone who did not read the thread because their mind was already made up!

My post has nothing to do with making up my mind.

The quote from Carson's book is:

“Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point,”

..since that never happened and Carson said it did, he was lying.

You don't know that. Carson interpreted the offer to mean a scholarship.


Department of Social Sciences - Scholarship Opportunities

For additional information on these scholarship opportunities, please contact Dr. Robert Person at [email protected].

Not really surprising. He was a high school senior, one presumes very much immersed in the whole college application ritual, and most people don't know jack shit about how West Point actually works.

 

[the_human_being]

It was a hit piece. The Liberals are doing anything and everything they can to destroy Ben Carson. It is shameless and highly unethical:

Politico Admits Fabricating A Hit Piece On Ben Carson

 

[Stephanie]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

It seems "Dan Rather Syndrome" has not been eradicated in media.

(The Democrats' film version sure was though. Oy vey, such flop sweat ...)

dan rather's story was true. the one document may not have been.

bush still ran off from his service in the national guard.

ben carson is still a loony liar.

your point?

Pretty sure the point is that leftists are lying, agenda-driven fucktards. And your post just demonstrated it . . . as usual.

Sometimes I wish we could do two of the smile/ratings at once. that was awesome and funny all rolled into one. You go girl.

 

[jillian]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

It seems "Dan Rather Syndrome" has not been eradicated in media.

(The Democrats' film version sure was though. Oy vey, such flop sweat ...)

dan rather's story was true. the one document may not have been.

bush still ran off from his service in the national guard.

ben carson is still a loony liar.

your point?

Pretty sure the point is that leftists are lying, agenda-driven fucktards. And your post just demonstrated it . . . as usual.

Sometimes I wish we could do two of the smile/ratings at once. that was awesome and funny all rolled into one. You go girl.

Poor wacky Steffie

 

[Iceweasel]

This was a bad story to run with, as key parts of it are clearly subject to interpretation.

The only time a "news" organization is going to run with such a thin story is if it has an agenda.
.

Bill Or'Reilly showed his liberal bona fides last night by accusing Ben Carson of being a liar.

He also got in an argument right after that by calling George Will a hack when George Will questioned the validity of parts of his book "Killing Reagan".

The argument centered around a dispute over parts of the book that G.Will called unflattering to Reagan. He asked O'Reilly why he didn't talk to members of the Reagan Administration instead of outsiders. O'Reillys excuse was they put conditions on the interview.

Shit.

O"Reilly interviewed Obama.....and Obama never does an interview without placing conditions on what questions can be asked, so this lame excuse was horseshit.

That was a weird interview. He invited Will on just to trash him in public.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

You people are the best denialists on the planet.

Carson said he was offered a full scholarship.

Everyone entering West Point gets a full scholarship. Shall we say it again?

The "scholarship" is a contract to enter the military with four years of education first! If you graduate from one of the academies you are elevated to the rank of O-1 with a minimum of five years active duty service and a total of eight year commitment (reserves) minimum (no additional education or specialties).

If you wash out or quit, you leave the academy to serve out anywhere from 0 to four years active duty in the enlisted ranks depending on circumstances. How many colleges and universities pay a salary to you as part of a "scholarship" or require you to work off your indenture ship if you quit?

Appointment to Scholarship = Apples to Oranges

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

You people are the best denialists on the planet.

Carson said he was offered a full scholarship.

Everyone entering West Point gets a full scholarship. Shall we say it again?

It's not really a scholarship since they incur an obligation to serve for 6 years, but it's understandable why Carson might call it that.

Yes, I know. Same-same for practical purposes.

 

[washamericom]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

You people are the best denialists on the planet.

Carson said he was offered a full scholarship.

Everyone entering West Point gets a full scholarship. Shall we say it again?

Goddam you people are funny.

He was never offered a full scholarship. He never even applied.

He said he was offered a full scholarship to West Point. There is no way that statement is not a lie.

How can it not be a lie?

sorry amigo, nobody's buying today, try to catch the next one.

 

[washamericom]

Well, believe it or not, CNN is challenging Politico's dishonest hit piece on Ben Carson, and Politico has now changed the article title and edited its content. It turns out that the article title was an outright lie and that even the first version of the article contained no evidence that Carson or his campaign had "admitted" lying about a West Point "scholarship"; nor did it contain any real evidence that Carson had falsified the account. Here's an excerpt from the CNN article:

That story was initially headlined "EXCLUSIVE: Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship." It seemed like the sort of story that had the potential to ruin Carson's ambitions for the presidency.

But the Politico story was not accurate on some key points.

And in the wake of pushback from the Carson campaign -- which called the story an "outright lie" -- Politico softened its headline, removed the "fabrication" language, and changed some key details -- even as it said it was "standing by its story."( Where Politico's Ben Carson 'scoop' went wrong )
​

Also, as the Daily Wire notes, Carson did not say that he "applied" to West Point, yet Politico falsely made a big deal about its "scoop" that West Point said he never applied. From the Daily Wire article:

But Carson never said he applied. He said he was extended a full scholarship offer. What’s more, West Point doesn’t offer scholarships: all admission is free contingent on serving in the military afterwards. It thus seems probable that Westmoreland or another military figure tried to recruit Carson, telling him that he wouldn’t have to pay for his education – and that Carson read that as a “full scholarship,” and never applied. . . .

But here’s how Politico editorialized: “When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.”

That’s nonsense. They did no such thing. They provided details that corroborated Carson’s story and explained his loose use of the language. If someone told you that you could go to college for free, you might reasonably conclude that you had been offered a full scholarship to attend that university. But Politico would call you a liar if you used such language to describe the exchange. ( No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job. )​

It is interesting to note how many liberals blindly ran with Politico's story without making any effort to check its accuracy.

At the very worst, Carson is guilty of the great sin of using imprecise language: he said "scholarship" when he should have said "appointment." But, of course, to a civilian writing many years later, as Carson was, it seemed perfectly accurate to say "scholarship." An appointment to West Point is, in fact, a type of full-ride scholarship.

You people are the best denialists on the planet.

Carson said he was offered a full scholarship.

Everyone entering West Point gets a full scholarship. Shall we say it again?

The "scholarship" is a contract to enter the military with four years of education first! If you graduate from one of the academies you are elevated to the rank of O-1 with a minimum of five years active duty service and a total of eight year commitment (reserves) minimum (no additional education or specialties).

If you wash out or quit, you leave the academy to serve out anywhere from 0 to four years active duty in the enlisted ranks depending on circumstances. How many colleges and universities pay a salary to you as part of a "scholarship" or require you to work off your indenture ship if you quit?

Appointment to Scholarship = Apples to Oranges

my father passed on his appointment/nomination to west point, so i know it happens.
sounds as if carson could have enrolled, but wanted to be a doctor. i'd like to hear from someone who actually went there. politico doesn't mind being the bottom feeder, this week...
it will be someone else next. it's kind of scary the way it went through a whole cycle in a few hours. only in America.

 

[washamericom]

So Carson might not take a hit on this after all.
Trump ain't happy.

he seems pretty happy.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The GOP primary reminds me of the movie "Ten Little Indians".

Looks like Carson may not be off the list.

Agatha Christie's 'Ten Little Indians' (1965) - IMDb