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false you were playing CYA and failed.wow great denialwhy do you need to try to control the way G5000 argues?Kind of like the way blacks went after all the racists when they gained their civil rights.
Perfectly understandable, and the racists had it coming to them.
Why do you have to point to blacks and their civil rights struggle, can't you make the argument for gays on its own? Many blacks will tell you they resent gays trying to equate the gay rights struggle with the black civil rights struggle they find that offensive.
Why do you make stuff up, I think we know the answer no need to reply.
this is you:' Why do you have to point to blacks and their civil rights struggle, can't you make the argument for gays on its own."
I did not make that up.
you've just proved my point: " do you need to try to control the way (place poster name here). argues!
I asked a question you tard, go back to school maybe you will advance past the 8th grade this time.
Welcome to being made an example of...There would be zero drama if nobody, as it should be, gave a fuck if gays wanted to marry.One sided?
Christians actually had the LAW on their discriminatory view's side......now that that vile bigotry as mandated by law is over?
GOOD.
So gays are looking for revenge and payback? It seems to me gays have been free to be gays for decades and the sky hasn't fallen. Why all the drama.
Meh, I don't care if they get married. That government is conspiring with militant gays to target a Christian business and trying to intentionally destroy that business and the owners hell yes I have a problem with that.
Can you list the things that you believe a so-called Christian business should NOT be allowed to do in the name of their religion,
regarding business practices?
Pull your head out of your ass. A reasonable fine or damage award for not baking a cake might be $1,000. That has some sting to it and seems appropriate. $135,000 damage award for not making a cake is utterly ridiculous.
If this were about a cake, they would patronize someone who wanted to make it for them.Unnecessary.
If you want to run a business in public, then follow the civil rights act.
Contracting out is perfectly legal.
Sub-contracting is a perfect example of the type of reaction I predict from Christians. If gays continue to try to pick a fight with Christians this is an example of what's going to happen. The left frequently thinks people will just stand there and take it when they attack them, they won't.
Perfectly legal as long as the opinion is put in the work order. It is done by businesses all the time. It's legal and who cares if someone calls it middle ground or not.
That will piss off gays imo. Which gets us to the root of the issue, do they really just want a cake or do they want to pick a fight with a Christian.
So, it ain't about a cake.
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I think the fine is too high as well but you have to remember the bakers signed up for it when they agreed to follow local business law.There would be zero drama if nobody, as it should be, gave a fuck if gays wanted to marry.One sided?
Christians actually had the LAW on their discriminatory view's side......now that that vile bigotry as mandated by law is over?
GOOD.
So gays are looking for revenge and payback? It seems to me gays have been free to be gays for decades and the sky hasn't fallen. Why all the drama.
Meh, I don't care if they get married. That government is conspiring with militant gays to target a Christian business and trying to intentionally destroy that business and the owners hell yes I have a problem with that.
Can you list the things that you believe a so-called Christian business should NOT be allowed to do in the name of their religion,
regarding business practices?
Pull your head out of your ass. A reasonable fine or damage award for not baking a cake might be $1,000. That has some sting to it and seems appropriate. $135,000 damage award for not making a cake is utterly ridiculous.
There would be zero drama if nobody, as it should be, gave a fuck if gays wanted to marry.One sided?
Christians actually had the LAW on their discriminatory view's side......now that that vile bigotry as mandated by law is over?
GOOD.
So gays are looking for revenge and payback? It seems to me gays have been free to be gays for decades and the sky hasn't fallen. Why all the drama.
Meh, I don't care if they get married. That government is conspiring with militant gays to target a Christian business and trying to intentionally destroy that business and the owners hell yes I have a problem with that.
Can you list the things that you believe a so-called Christian business should NOT be allowed to do in the name of their religion,
regarding business practices?
Pull your head out of your ass. A reasonable fine or damage award for not baking a cake might be $1,000. That has some sting to it and seems appropriate. $135,000 damage award for not making a cake is utterly ridiculous.
as I said before it's not gay vs. Christian ,it's" gay" vs. "straight" Christian.This is interesting. Two bills being promoted right now in Colorado:
Gay marriage opponents propose 2 Colorado ballot measures - Washington Times
The first would redefine same-sex marriages as civil unions.
The second would allow wedding-related businesses opposed to gay marriage to hire a contractor to serve same-sex couples.
That sounds like reasonable middle ground. Personally, I don't care how they're defined, but the second one does allow someone to avoid being "forced" to go against their beliefs.
Good enough? Or is compromise still a dirty word?
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Unnecessary.
If you want to run a business in public, then follow the civil rights act.
Contracting out is perfectly legal.
Sub-contracting is a perfect example of the type of reaction I predict from Christians. If gays continue to try to pick a fight with Christians this is an example of what's going to happen. The left frequently thinks people will just stand there and take it when they attack them, they won't.
Perfectly legal as long as the opinion is put in the work order. It is done by businesses all the time. It's legal and who cares if someone calls it middle ground or not.
That will piss off gays imo. Which gets us to the root of the issue, do they really just want a cake or do they want to pick a fight with a Christian.
One of the brides had gotten a cake for another wedding from this bakery (her mother's wedding, I believe). Apparently the cake was good enough and the service was good enough that she chose this bakery for her own wedding. Why would she assume that the baker would refuse and call her an abomination? And why on earth should she put up with something that is clearly against the law?If this were about a cake, they would patronize someone who wanted to make it for them.Contracting out is perfectly legal.
Sub-contracting is a perfect example of the type of reaction I predict from Christians. If gays continue to try to pick a fight with Christians this is an example of what's going to happen. The left frequently thinks people will just stand there and take it when they attack them, they won't.
Perfectly legal as long as the opinion is put in the work order. It is done by businesses all the time. It's legal and who cares if someone calls it middle ground or not.
That will piss off gays imo. Which gets us to the root of the issue, do they really just want a cake or do they want to pick a fight with a Christian.
So, it ain't about a cake.
.
That is actually a very good point. Why would you even want a cake from someone who didn't want to bake it for you? Why ruin your wedding day knowing the wedding cake was baked by a Christian who disapproves of gays and gay weddings? Weird.
If this were about a cake, they would patronize someone who wanted to make it for them.Contracting out is perfectly legal.
Sub-contracting is a perfect example of the type of reaction I predict from Christians. If gays continue to try to pick a fight with Christians this is an example of what's going to happen. The left frequently thinks people will just stand there and take it when they attack them, they won't.
Perfectly legal as long as the opinion is put in the work order. It is done by businesses all the time. It's legal and who cares if someone calls it middle ground or not.
That will piss off gays imo. Which gets us to the root of the issue, do they really just want a cake or do they want to pick a fight with a Christian.
So, it ain't about a cake.
.
That is actually a very good point. Why would you even want a cake from someone who didn't want to bake it for you? Why ruin your wedding day knowing the wedding cake was baked by a Christian who disapproves of gays and gay weddings? Weird.
Exactly. It isn't middle ground. It's second class ground.I don't see a middle ground here
How is giving up your hard fought right to same sex marriage a middle ground?
How is giving up your right to be served in a public business a middle ground?
Hardly,who is reaching ? do you agree my rights are just as valid as yours,and most likely different?and yours at theirs.Your rights,be you black, white ,green, gay,or have three eyes,stop at my rights
why is it cons always forget that?
I think the fine is too high as well but you have to remember the bakers signed up for it when they agreed to follow local business law.There would be zero drama if nobody, as it should be, gave a fuck if gays wanted to marry.So gays are looking for revenge and payback? It seems to me gays have been free to be gays for decades and the sky hasn't fallen. Why all the drama.
Meh, I don't care if they get married. That government is conspiring with militant gays to target a Christian business and trying to intentionally destroy that business and the owners hell yes I have a problem with that.
Can you list the things that you believe a so-called Christian business should NOT be allowed to do in the name of their religion,
regarding business practices?
Pull your head out of your ass. A reasonable fine or damage award for not baking a cake might be $1,000. That has some sting to it and seems appropriate. $135,000 damage award for not making a cake is utterly ridiculous.
There would be zero drama if nobody, as it should be, gave a fuck if gays wanted to marry.So gays are looking for revenge and payback? It seems to me gays have been free to be gays for decades and the sky hasn't fallen. Why all the drama.
Meh, I don't care if they get married. That government is conspiring with militant gays to target a Christian business and trying to intentionally destroy that business and the owners hell yes I have a problem with that.
Can you list the things that you believe a so-called Christian business should NOT be allowed to do in the name of their religion,
regarding business practices?
Pull your head out of your ass. A reasonable fine or damage award for not baking a cake might be $1,000. That has some sting to it and seems appropriate. $135,000 damage award for not making a cake is utterly ridiculous.
Wait a minute. Now you're conceding that the bakery was in the wrong, and now you just want to haggle over the price?
lol, case closed with one more RW'er.
as I said before it's not gay vs. Christian ,it's" gay" vs. "straight" Christian.Unnecessary.
If you want to run a business in public, then follow the civil rights act.
Contracting out is perfectly legal.
Sub-contracting is a perfect example of the type of reaction I predict from Christians. If gays continue to try to pick a fight with Christians this is an example of what's going to happen. The left frequently thinks people will just stand there and take it when they attack them, they won't.
Perfectly legal as long as the opinion is put in the work order. It is done by businesses all the time. It's legal and who cares if someone calls it middle ground or not.
That will piss off gays imo. Which gets us to the root of the issue, do they really just want a cake or do they want to pick a fight with a Christian.
why is it you won't man up and say gays can't be Christian or some shit like that?
it's obvious that's what you are trying so hard to suggest.
One of the brides had gotten a cake for another wedding from this bakery (her mother's wedding, I believe). Apparently the cake was good enough and the service was good enough that she chose this bakery for her own wedding. Why would she assume that the baker would refuse and call her an abomination? And why on earth should she put up with something that is clearly against the law?If this were about a cake, they would patronize someone who wanted to make it for them.Sub-contracting is a perfect example of the type of reaction I predict from Christians. If gays continue to try to pick a fight with Christians this is an example of what's going to happen. The left frequently thinks people will just stand there and take it when they attack them, they won't.
Perfectly legal as long as the opinion is put in the work order. It is done by businesses all the time. It's legal and who cares if someone calls it middle ground or not.
That will piss off gays imo. Which gets us to the root of the issue, do they really just want a cake or do they want to pick a fight with a Christian.
So, it ain't about a cake.
.
That is actually a very good point. Why would you even want a cake from someone who didn't want to bake it for you? Why ruin your wedding day knowing the wedding cake was baked by a Christian who disapproves of gays and gay weddings? Weird.
You cannot legislate civil rights. Why do you not understand that basic concept?looks to me like our residents homophobes are in the third stage of grief!
ANGER & BARGAINING-
Frustration gives way to anger, and you may lash out and lay unwarranted blame for the death on someone else. Please try to control this, as permanent damage to your relationships may result. This is a time for the release of bottled up emotion.
You may rail against fate, questioning "Why me?" You may also try to bargain in vain with the powers that be for a way out of your despair ("I will never drink again if you just bring him back")
Considering I have no issue with SSM if it was voted in by the State legislatures, your broad brush doesn't hit me.
Try again.
