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Communism seems to have been pretty good for America over the last hundred years, an increase of GDP by a factor on 10 and increase in personal income by 23 times.Cali has an energy problem . Also has a lot of sunlight !
Seems like a smart idea .
Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. But shouldn't the citizens be allowed to make that decision and not the government?
You act as if the energy system out West ISNT heavily subsidized by the gov.
I don't know if it is or isn't, but what I do know is that when government starts forcing people to buy things they don't want, we have one foot in the communist grave already.
we have actually been a communist state since 1913 and lost that chance to be a free country on nov 22nd 1963.If you dont know why 1913 was a critical year google in HOW WE LOST OUR FREEDOMS IN 1913,WOODROW WILSON. Kennedy tried to change that and paid the fatal price for doing so.
---------------------------------------------- will do ANYTHING for money , thats how WHORES do things Flopper !!Communism seems to have been pretty good for America over the last hundred years, an increase of GDP by a factor on 10 and increase in personal income by 23 times.Cali has an energy problem . Also has a lot of sunlight !
Seems like a smart idea .
Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. But shouldn't the citizens be allowed to make that decision and not the government?
You act as if the energy system out West ISNT heavily subsidized by the gov.
I don't know if it is or isn't, but what I do know is that when government starts forcing people to buy things they don't want, we have one foot in the communist grave already.
we have actually been a communist state since 1913 and lost that chance to be a free country on nov 22nd 1963.If you dont know why 1913 was a critical year google in HOW WE LOST OUR FREEDOMS IN 1913,WOODROW WILSON. Kennedy tried to change that and paid the fatal price for doing so.
Well, that's pretty much between the state of California and the voters. California is pretty liberal place. I wouldn't be surprised if the voters favored it.People that go solar have reasons other than saving a buck. I think that's great. They use less electric power which means less pollution and less new power plants to build.I have an experiment I would like for any of these stupid Moon Bats that think solar panels work.
Go buy a cheap electric meter. You can get them for less than $20 on Amazon. By a 12" x 12" glass panel. A couple of dollars.
Set the glass panel out in the yard or on top of the roof or some place out of the way.
On a day when there are no clouds in the sky measure the light meter reading under the plate of glass at a certain time.
Every month or so take the reading at the same time of day and when there are no clouds in the sky.
You will observe two things.
First of all the amount of light will fall off dramatically due to the seasons. Of course we all know that but the solar panel models that claim you will have a short payback only calculates the maximum power at the time of the summer solstice. Buyer beware!
Second is that the glass will become covered with dust and whatnot that rain won't wash off and transmit less light. That accumulation will become significant after about three years. That is what will happen to the surfaces of any solar panel.
That experiment doesn't even take into consideration of the deterioration of the photocells themselves, just the effect of surface contamination.
Only a dumbshit would buy solar cells.
Only a dumbshit government would mandate their use.
I think that's great too, as long as nobody forced them into buying solar panels or windmills. It's their pet project, but shouldn't have to be everybody's.
Ya know, I rehab raptors and it always ticks me off to see, of all people, RWNJs use the eagle to push their lies.
Your meme is adorable but it works both ways.
Your rights end where my nose begins but that's what all RWNJs are against - the rights of others. Don't believe it? Just read the RWNJ posts in this post about California, of all places.
smh
Really? Who's trying to impose solar panels on everyone? Who wanted government mandated healthcare? Who wants to control what kind of guns we can buy? Who wants to outlaw coal fired power plants?
The list goes on and on.
Who's forcing petro power on everyone by forcing small businesses out in favor of 1% owned oil?
As for guns, health care, coal and whatever your other whining is about, same thing - YOUR rights end where mine begin.
Bye bye LOL. After Healthcare, energy corporations need to be socialized more than anyone.Should Tar and Feather the asshats that are pushing this......................They have no concept of FREEDOM.........To impose their ideologies on everyone else................No matter the cost..........no matter what people living there think about it. It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL ..............and someone will challenge it...........plenty of time for that.................What's the concern here?
That we stop requiring buildings in earthquake zones to be resistant to them?
That we stop the regulation of building codes which improve safety?
Seems like you want to argue against belts in cars and helmets on motorcyclists.
Look atchu, all totalitarian and shit.
Power Companies should just leave California............leave the dang place in the dark.
That's the surest way to drive up the price of energy.
Is to let the private sector control it like Enron.
No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
What's the concern here?
That we stop requiring buildings in earthquake zones to be resistant to them?
That we stop the regulation of building codes which improve safety?
Seems like you want to argue against belts in cars and helmets on motorcyclists.
At least with the others there are safety concerns involved.
Ray
Your missing the point.
No socialist Utopia has imploded. You are talking about communist Utopias, dingbat dupe. One is always democratic, the other never. Get it.LOLThat is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heardGeneral Welfare is a clear violation of the 10th............which FDR took a leak on.Well, it's my thread, but it is about what can the gummit compel there be in private contracts to protect us from an environmental danger. Of course you may disagree with the voters in Calif that global warming is a danger, but the want to reduce hydrocarbon use. Catalytic converters. Disposal of tires, batteries and oil.
I didn't offer an opinion either way.
Anything for the general welfare and anything reasonable governing interstate commerce.
It is already settled that the environment is not a state issue.
Pretend libertarians pick the stupidest things to whine about.
And they don't get that this concerns them too.It affects their lives every single day.
They don't know that and don't want to know it.
There is nothingness repealing the general welfare clause.
And you clearly are clueless on theb10th.
Go study up.
Enumerated powers................lost on you........you've destroyed it anyway.......and California will implode like all socialist utopias have done.......
Enjoy the ride to hell.....please keep all liberals in your state...........Too many leaving that state already.............rather you keep the Kool Aide there.
Bye bye LOL. After Healthcare, energy corporations need to be socialized more than anyone.Should Tar and Feather the asshats that are pushing this......................They have no concept of FREEDOM.........To impose their ideologies on everyone else................No matter the cost..........no matter what people living there think about it. It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL ..............and someone will challenge it...........plenty of time for that.................No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
What's the concern here?
That we stop requiring buildings in earthquake zones to be resistant to them?
That we stop the regulation of building codes which improve safety?
Seems like you want to argue against belts in cars and helmets on motorcyclists.
Look atchu, all totalitarian and shit.
Power Companies should just leave California............leave the dang place in the dark.
The Dupes have 1 brainwashed talking point for everything. We are the richest country in the world. Except for the non rich. Great job scumbag Republicans and silly dupes.Bye bye LOL. After Healthcare, energy corporations need to be socialized more than anyone.Should Tar and Feather the asshats that are pushing this......................They have no concept of FREEDOM.........To impose their ideologies on everyone else................No matter the cost..........no matter what people living there think about it. It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL ..............and someone will challenge it...........plenty of time for that.................Look atchu, all totalitarian and shit.
Power Companies should just leave California............leave the dang place in the dark.
That's the surest way to drive up the price of energy.
Is to let the private sector control it like Enron.
Check Venezuela. See how government control is working out for them.
No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
What's next? Are conservatives going to complain about zoning laws that require building code specifications that specify everything from wiring standards (to prevent electrical fires) to insulation standards (to prevent both temperature loss and noise abatement) and the distance of floor joists (to prevent sagging floors)? Keep in mind that all of these standards help to prevent the loss of lives, reduce repair costs, and help to keep home prices from falling due to shoddy workmanship.
And guess what? Even if your home has solar panels, at this point nobody is forcing you to avail yourself of the cost savings.you would gain by using them. Feel free to shell out more of your hard earned money on enriching the gas or electric companies!
California believes. Only bought off Republicans and silly dupes in the USA don't believe. Idiots and Swine.No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
What's the concern here?
That we stop requiring buildings in earthquake zones to be resistant to them?
That we stop the regulation of building codes which improve safety?
Seems like you want to argue against belts in cars and helmets on motorcyclists.
At least with the others there are safety concerns involved.
Ray
Your missing the point.
Correct, I am, what is your point?
Laws are in place for a reason. The only reason for this stupid law is one (or more) people's belief in global warming. Well......not everybody believes in global warming and shouldn't be forced to buy solar panels because others do believe in it.
What about half the prison population, stuck there by Republicans for pot. Talk about control. They screw everyone but their greedy idiot billionaires. California lawmakers may go overboard but that is up to them. Obama allowed choice and moron Republicans refused all great deals the brainwashed ignoramuses.No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
What's next? Are conservatives going to complain about zoning laws that require building code specifications that specify everything from wiring standards (to prevent electrical fires) to insulation standards (to prevent both temperature loss and noise abatement) and the distance of floor joists (to prevent sagging floors)? Keep in mind that all of these standards help to prevent the loss of lives, reduce repair costs, and help to keep home prices from falling due to shoddy workmanship.
And guess what? Even if your home has solar panels, at this point nobody is forcing you to avail yourself of the cost savings.you would gain by using them. Feel free to shell out more of your hard earned money on enriching the gas or electric companies!
Oh, do you mean let people choose for themselves? Nah, never work in liberal land. Liberalism's is about control over the people. The more control, the happier the liberal.
Tell us when communism got in without violent revolution, Einstein idiot Dupe.Stupidity leads to Democrats.......
Democrats lead to Socialism.......
Socialism leads to Communism.....
Communism leads to much suffering.....Ummm!!
Tell us when communism got in without violent revolution, Einstein idiot Dupe.
Bye bye LOL. After Healthcare, energy corporations need to be socialized more than anyone.Should Tar and Feather the asshats that are pushing this......................They have no concept of FREEDOM.........To impose their ideologies on everyone else................No matter the cost..........no matter what people living there think about it. It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL ..............and someone will challenge it...........plenty of time for that.................No more free choice. They decide, you kneel.
Fortune: California to Require Solar Panels for All New Homes
What's the concern here?
That we stop requiring buildings in earthquake zones to be resistant to them?
That we stop the regulation of building codes which improve safety?
Seems like you want to argue against belts in cars and helmets on motorcyclists.
Look atchu, all totalitarian and shit.
Power Companies should just leave California............leave the dang place in the dark.
Why do you losers want to change this country to socialism? There are plenty of other socialist, communist and dictatorship countries out there. There is only one USA. MOVE!
No socialist Utopia has imploded. You are talking about communist Utopias, dingbat dupe. One is always democratic, the other never. Get it.LOLThat is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heardGeneral Welfare is a clear violation of the 10th............which FDR took a leak on.Anything for the general welfare and anything reasonable governing interstate commerce.
It is already settled that the environment is not a state issue.
Pretend libertarians pick the stupidest things to whine about.
And they don't get that this concerns them too.It affects their lives every single day.
They don't know that and don't want to know it.
There is nothingness repealing the general welfare clause.
And you clearly are clueless on theb10th.
Go study up.
Enumerated powers................lost on you........you've destroyed it anyway.......and California will implode like all socialist utopias have done.......
Enjoy the ride to hell.....please keep all liberals in your state...........Too many leaving that state already.............rather you keep the Kool Aide there.
Just one example stupid.Like takin candy from babies......
Not that I would mind you
