Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

Socialism never works, period.

It's worked here since the 1930's because we were so rich we could borrow enough ($22T) to pay for it. If Reagan hadn't come along in the 80's, we'd have collapsed and had a revolution by now. Now Trump is saving us from the termites of communism once again....this is what we mean by "in God we trust"....we always seem to come up with a savior who gets us back on track.
 
Where has socialism or communism ever been tried with the will of the people? A dictatorship can call it's self anything it wants but that does not make the country what they claim.

If you look at any of those old posters from the Bolshevik or Cultural Revolutions, they seem to depict a lot of willing people...

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Compared to how they were treated under emperors they wanted to try something new..

Did their "something new" turn out to be "something better"?
Not as good as it could have been if they weren't military dictatorships. But capitalism is not a kill free enterprise nor are republicans/democrats when you gotta tame a nation and take it away from them thar savages.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

The bailout of every time capitalism has collapsed the economy. Best example I can think of is 1929
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?



Here in America Socialism has created a lot of things.

The interstate highway system, roads, bridges and dams. Socialism built the whole thing.

The US military. Our military is 100% socialism.

Do you like that electricity that turns on the light when you flip that switch? Socialism built the whole thing.

Do you like that water that comes from the tap when you turn it on? Socialism built that whole system.

Do you like that if your house catches fire someone will come to put it out? Socialism built that.

Do you like that you can pick up the phone to call the police or EMT? Socialism.

Do you like the internet? Socialism built it in the 60s and 70s.

Do you like that you're able to read, write, do math and all that our public schools taught you to have the skills for a successful life? Socialism built that. Socialism taught you and most of the people in our nation.

I know you like that wall that trump has been screaming about since 2015 that Mexico was going to pay for. That is 100% socialism.

That's just a short list of what socialism has built in the US.

So you can say you're not a socialist but you are. So is every person in America. We are also capitalists. All successful first world nations are a hybrid of both capitalism and socialism.

If you had been paying attention in school you would have learned that.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
They made it into orbit before we did, and China plans on having a moon base before long, far ahead of us.

Next stupid question.

Yet, they stole their space and missile technology from a capitalist country, Germany. Or from us, as in the case of China.

But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.


According to most Trumbots, Nazi Germany was socialist.

BTW - The U.S. missile and space programs were initially developed by German scientists as well.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Considering that the United States, Great Britain, Japan and Germany have all been at least somewhat socialist for many years, quite a lot has been contributed by socialist countries.

BTW - nobody gives a shit what Lenin said. He was a complete asshole and does not represent the intentions of any modern day liberals.

Why don't you believe everything that Lenin said about capitalism if you believe what he said about socialism?

If what you're trying to say is true, why did one of the founders of Communism (Friedrich Engels) mention Democratic Socialism (as in Bernie Sanders, AOC, etc.) as being useful in the transition to Communism?
 
Socialism never works, period.

It's worked here since the 1930's because we were so rich we could borrow enough ($22T) to pay for it. If Reagan hadn't come along in the 80's, we'd have collapsed and had a revolution by now. Now Trump is saving us from the termites of communism once again....this is what we mean by "in God we trust"....we always seem to come up with a savior who gets us back on track.
So did Rome for a lot more years than the life of the US.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Nothing whatsoever. It was a capitalist country, America, which put men on the moon multiple times. Even in the technological "stone ages" of the late '60s-early '70s.
 
"what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured"

Death and subjugation.
Non-communist nations did the same and....

How many did America's "Great Leap Forward" kill?

How many people were killed in the Korean, Vietnam and Iraqi wars?

Much less than China's great leap forward.
Your position assumes I agreed with any of your stated wars and police actions, I do not.
 
Where has socialism or communism ever been tried with the will of the people? A dictatorship can call it's self anything it wants but that does not make the country what they claim.


I only read the title of the thread. I didn't bother to read the propaganda in the OP.

If that person is saying that socialism is a political and social policy that person doesn't know what it's talking about.

Socialism is an ECONOMIC policy.

Socialism, communism and capitalism can exist in both a free society and a dictatorship.

russia and china prove that. Both have capitalism and ether socialism or communism but both are a dictatorship. Vietnam is the same.

We have both capitalism and socialism here in America but we don't have a dictatorship or we aren't supposed to.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

The bailout of every time capitalism has collapsed the economy. Best example I can think of is 1929

You need to do some research.
 
Some food for thought...

A "socialist company" is another name for an employee owned company.

These are the largest 100 employee owned companies in the US:

The Employee Ownership 100: America's Largest Majority Employee-Owned Companies

Bullshit....a company doesn't operate in it's own economy.....it competes with every other company. That's what you nitwits will never understand....every company is looking for every dollar that's out there....what makes an economy are companies that fill needs and wants other companies can't either by product or service or price....take away that competition and the economy dies or is infested with government companies not motivated to produce something better. Be careful what you wish for....the ones you support couldn't care less if you end up pushing a shopping cart down the street full of the possessions you have left.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Considering that the United States, Great Britain, Japan and Germany have all been at least somewhat socialist for many years, quite a lot has been contributed by socialist countries.

BTW - nobody gives a shit what Lenin said. He was a complete asshole and does not represent the intentions of any modern day liberals.

Why don't you believe everything that Lenin said about capitalism if you believe what he said about socialism?

If what you're trying to say is true, why did one of the founders of Communism (Friedrich Engels) mention Democratic Socialism (as in Bernie Sanders, AOC, etc.) as being useful in the transition to Communism?

Probably because they thought it would be.

However, as I said, nobody except YOU cares or believes what they said.

I guess that makes YOU the only Marxist/Leninist in this thread.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?



Here in America Socialism has created a lot of things.

The interstate highway system, roads, bridges and dams. Socialism built the whole thing.

The US military. Our military is 100% socialism.

Do you like that electricity that turns on the light when you flip that switch? Socialism built the whole thing.

Do you like that water that comes from the tap when you turn it on? Socialism built that whole system.

Do you like that if your house catches fire someone will come to put it out? Socialism built that.

Do you like that you can pick up the phone to call the police or EMT? Socialism.

Do you like the internet? Socialism built it in the 60s and 70s.

Do you like that you're able to read, write, do math and all that our public schools taught you to have the skills for a successful life? Socialism built that. Socialism taught you and most of the people in our nation.

I know you like that wall that trump has been screaming about since 2015 that Mexico was going to pay for. That is 100% socialism.

That's just a short list of what socialism has built in the US.

So you can say you're not a socialist but you are. So is every person in America. We are also capitalists. All successful first world nations are a hybrid of both capitalism and socialism.

If you had been paying attention in school you would have learned that.

All of which was developed, thanks to a free market system. Everything you listed there came from the private exchange of goods and services from individual privately-owned and operated businesses, which owned both the property and the means of production.
 
Some food for thought...

A "socialist company" is another name for an employee owned company.

These are the largest 100 employee owned companies in the US:

The Employee Ownership 100: America's Largest Majority Employee-Owned Companies

Bullshit....a company doesn't operate in it's own economy.....it competes with every other company. That's what you nitwits will never understand....every company is looking for every dollar that's out there....what makes an economy are companies that fill needs and wants other companies can't either by product or service or price....take away that competition and the economy dies or is infested with government companies not motivated to produce something better. Be careful what you wish for....the ones you support couldn't care less if you end up pushing a shopping cart down the street full of the possessions you have left.

So how do you explain the lack of competition in the medical industry?

How U.S. Health Care Became Big Business
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
Well we stole a good percentage of the original NASA scientist from Germany. So there is that. The rocket and the jet engine would be two of the biggest things. I am sure there is more.
 
Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?
They made it into orbit before we did, and China plans on having a moon base before long, far ahead of us.

Next stupid question.

Yet, they stole their space and missile technology from a capitalist country, Germany. Or from us, as in the case of China.

But I will give them credit for the AK-47. That is one magnificent piece of machinery.
You seem to have forgotten a few things my ignorant friend. First, we got our missile technology from Germany as well, and second you are one of the idiots who insists Nazi Germany was socialist.
 
"what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured"

Death and subjugation.
Non-communist nations did the same and....

How many did America's "Great Leap Forward" kill?
around two million Native American Indians.

Is that less or more than your beloved Mao and Stalin? Tell me son, is being conquered the same as being dying because your Gov decided it was necessary?
You can't win here son, you don't know enough.
 

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