Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

[danielpalos]

Why did Hitler kill communists and tolerate capitalists?

Hitler was a socialist. Do you even know the name of his party without looking it up? I doubt it. And, OBTW, HE personally named it.

Hitler killed communist apparatchiks and socialist nomenklatura mostly because they were in rival political parties. Not because of their beliefs but because they were a political threat to his party.

You people are just simply stupid.

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Do you know what a 'soviet' is? I doubt that one, too.

This is like reading 3rd graders debate Relativity

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Who owned the means of production in Nazi Germany?

It wasn't the socialists.

The Nazis. The Nazis controlled everything. There is a famous, or infamous story of Hitler saying "I don't care if you own the cow, as long as I own you".

The Nazis were very much for the appearance of private ownership, but they made it clear they controlled the owners. Yes, you can own that factory, but you build what we want you to build, and the way we want you to build it.

It was very much a socialist system. As the name "National Socialists" implied.

You are absolutely correct: "Nationalized socialism."

All industry and production was for the support of the state. Industrialists could make good money but they were directed by the government to manufacture mainly certain things needed for Hitler's military expansionism.

We spend more on military than the rest of the world combined. That’s all government spending. A lot. Trillions can’t even be accounted for. So shady.

What are we manufacturing?

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are public sector "means of production".

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism has never led to Communism yet, except with a violent revolution in between. Marx was wrong about everything. People are going to have to evolve for communism to be possible except through violent revolution and total police state. Absolute garbage no one in the United States in their right mind argues for it. Socialism now means fair capitalism and that is all, brainwashed functional moron. And we don't have it here thanks to the scumbag GOP and their brainwashed dupes. We need at least to have healthcare for all.

"And we'll never have it here thanks to the scumbag GOP and their brainwashed dupes.."

Fixed that for you. You're welcome.

Will never have Healthcare ? And you think that's great? You people are absolutely out of your minds brainwashed...

Pay for your own damned healthcare. I didn't breed you, so I'm not responsible for you.

Go barbarism! Enjoy hell LOL

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

1 Timothy 5:8

But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Proverbs 12:24
The hand of the diligent will rule, while the slothful will be put to forced labor.

2 Thessalonians 3:8
Nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you.

Psalm 128:2

You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands; you shall be blessed, and it shall be well with you.

the Law is employment at will. why be illegal to the law?

 

[Blues Man]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

the socialism of command economics took us to the Moon, last millennium.

the private sector has yet to discover a profit motive.

When the government owns the means of production there can be no profit for the private sector

Which is clearly not the case nor is it likely to be in this country

Hey you lying asswipe sack of shit until you back up your allegations of what I have said do not respond to any of my posts

Or you can just admit you like to make shit up and apologize for being a lying sack of shit

 

[basquebromance]

if you think your sneakers are great, you believe in capitalism!

California, which is a nutjob state, refused to pass Medicare For All because it would double the debt.

in South Africa, health care is a right, and they have terrifying health care program. i've studied extensively!

declaring something a right just means that you have the right to steal it from me!

 

[basquebromance]

corporations are not evil. their goal is to maximize profit no matter what. that should be a basic human right!

 

[basquebromance]

Republicans pass tax cuts because they're beholden to corporations? what about the unions that contribute to Demonrats! TAKE ALL THE MONEY OUT! THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Socialism has never led to Communism yet, except with a violent revolution in between. Marx was wrong about everything. People are going to have to evolve for communism to be possible except through violent revolution and total police state. Absolute garbage no one in the United States in their right mind argues for it. Socialism now means fair capitalism and that is all, brainwashed functional moron. And we don't have it here thanks to the scumbag GOP and their brainwashed dupes. We need at least to have healthcare for all.

You have no idea whether Marx was right or wrong, because you have never read Marx. You have no idea whether socialism has led to communism because you don't know what communism is nor do you have any knowledge of history.
Socialism means government control of the means of production. It means taking control from the people and giving it to rulers and lords. You seek to place the yoke of slavery on America so that Elon Musk can have more of what American's earn, so that George Soros can have a few more slaves. You hope for scraps to be thrown to you like a good toady.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Like all socialists they wanted to rule the world, force everyone to bend to their will, Same reason Stalin invaded Poland and the Baltic's.

Why did Hitler kill communists and tolerate capitalists?

Hitler was a socialist. Do you even know the name of his party without looking it up? I doubt it. And, OBTW, HE personally named it.

Hitler killed communist apparatchiks and socialist nomenklatura mostly because they were in rival political parties. Not because of their beliefs but because they were a political threat to his party.

You people are just simply stupid.

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Do you know what a 'soviet' is? I doubt that one, too.

This is like reading 3rd graders debate Relativity

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Who owned the means of production in Nazi Germany?

It wasn't the socialists.

What a fucking retard - and a liar, but a retard to think you can get away this shit.

"Why do I need to own the means of production when I own the owners?" - Benito Mussolini

Mussolini and Hitler both had command economies - SOCIALIST economies.

 

[Votto]

Most every advancement in technology, medicine, agriculture, transportation, communication, construction, energy and power, etc. this world has ever seen was conceived and developed by countries that practiced a capitalist ideology. Yet many Democrats are pushing socialism, the goal of which is communism as Lenin explained.

So what groundbreaking things have socialism/communism ever contributed to this world, aside from what they stole from capitalist countries?

Poverty, starvation, mass graves and misery are the specialty of socialists. It’s what they import into every nation they get control of.

Don't you mean shovel ready jobs?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Like all socialists they wanted to rule the world, force everyone to bend to their will, Same reason Stalin invaded Poland and the Baltic's.

Why did Hitler kill communists and tolerate capitalists?

Hitler was a socialist. Do you even know the name of his party without looking it up? I doubt it. And, OBTW, HE personally named it.

Hitler killed communist apparatchiks and socialist nomenklatura mostly because they were in rival political parties. Not because of their beliefs but because they were a political threat to his party.

You people are just simply stupid.

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Do you know what a 'soviet' is? I doubt that one, too.

This is like reading 3rd graders debate Relativity

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Who owned the means of production in Nazi Germany?

It wasn't the socialists.

The Nazis. The Nazis controlled everything. There is a famous, or infamous story of Hitler saying "I don't care if you own the cow, as long as I own you".

The Nazis were very much for the appearance of private ownership, but they made it clear they controlled the owners. Yes, you can own that factory, but you build what we want you to build, and the way we want you to build it.

It was very much a socialist system. As the name "National Socialists" implied.

The Nazis were very much for the appearance of private ownership, but they made it clear they controlled the owners. Yes, you can own that factory, but you build what we want you to build, and the way we want you to build it

Was Fritz Thyssen a socialist or capitalist?

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

"By the time Fritz Thyssen inherited the business empire in 1926, Germany's economic recovery was faltering.

"After hearing Adolf Hitler speak, Thyssen became mesmerised by the young firebrand. He joined the Nazi party in December 1931 and admits backing Hitler in his autobiography, I Paid Hitler, when the National Socialists were still a radical fringe party.

"He stepped in several times to bail out the struggling party: in 1928 Thyssen had bought the Barlow Palace on Briennerstrasse, in Munich, which Hitler converted into the Brown House, the headquarters of the Nazi party.

"The money came from another Thyssen overseas institution, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvarrt in Rotterdam."

German and American capitalists created Hitler as a buffer against Stalin.

"The Bush family links to Nazi Germany’s war economy were first brought to light at the Nuremberg trials in the testimony of Nazi Germany’s steel magnate Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen was a partner of George W. Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush..."

"George Bush’s grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

"The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

"His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy."

Bush Family Links to Nazi Germany: “A Famous American Family” Made its Fortune from the Nazis

Wow but you are fucking liar, what a shameless pile of shit you are, fuckwad.

You going to trot out the Protocols of the Elders of Zion again? You know you are, you festering and putrid boil.

 

[basquebromance]

There is this growing cafeteria socialism where Democrats pick and choose elements here and there and put them on a platter because they sound conducive to running a progressive-sounding campaign

If you are espousing Medicare for All and free college for everyone, but ultimately still allowing for capitalist interests to run amok … then you are not a socialist. You’re just running on a platform that draws people in falsely

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why did Hitler kill communists and tolerate capitalists?

Hitler was a socialist. Do you even know the name of his party without looking it up? I doubt it. And, OBTW, HE personally named it.

Hitler killed communist apparatchiks and socialist nomenklatura mostly because they were in rival political parties. Not because of their beliefs but because they were a political threat to his party.

You people are just simply stupid.

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Do you know what a 'soviet' is? I doubt that one, too.

This is like reading 3rd graders debate Relativity

socialism is when the government owns the means of production. communism is when there is no government.

Who owned the means of production in Nazi Germany?

It wasn't the socialists.

The Nazis. The Nazis controlled everything. There is a famous, or infamous story of Hitler saying "I don't care if you own the cow, as long as I own you".

The Nazis were very much for the appearance of private ownership, but they made it clear they controlled the owners. Yes, you can own that factory, but you build what we want you to build, and the way we want you to build it.

It was very much a socialist system. As the name "National Socialists" implied.

The Nazis were very much for the appearance of private ownership, but they made it clear they controlled the owners. Yes, you can own that factory, but you build what we want you to build, and the way we want you to build it

Was Fritz Thyssen a socialist or capitalist?

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

"By the time Fritz Thyssen inherited the business empire in 1926, Germany's economic recovery was faltering.

"After hearing Adolf Hitler speak, Thyssen became mesmerised by the young firebrand. He joined the Nazi party in December 1931 and admits backing Hitler in his autobiography, I Paid Hitler, when the National Socialists were still a radical fringe party.

"He stepped in several times to bail out the struggling party: in 1928 Thyssen had bought the Barlow Palace on Briennerstrasse, in Munich, which Hitler converted into the Brown House, the headquarters of the Nazi party.

"The money came from another Thyssen overseas institution, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvarrt in Rotterdam."

German and American capitalists created Hitler as a buffer against Stalin.

"The Bush family links to Nazi Germany’s war economy were first brought to light at the Nuremberg trials in the testimony of Nazi Germany’s steel magnate Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen was a partner of George W. Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush..."

"George Bush’s grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

"The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

"His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy."

Bush Family Links to Nazi Germany: “A Famous American Family” Made its Fortune from the Nazis

/——/ And don’t forget Nazi fan Joe Kennedy.

Prescott Bush was not Hitler's banker, he did not get arrested or indicted - ever, nor were there any hints of "trading with the enemy act" charges. The picture George the lying pile of shit put up is a crappy photoshop superimposing George HW Bush's face over a Nazi functionary, it isn't even Prescott. The most vile of the holocaust denier gutter scum like George have been passing this shit around for years. Oh yes, they know they are fucking liars, but they are the lowest sort of filth in the universe so they keep telling the same lies year after year, no matter HOW many times the virus gets smacked down.

 

[basquebromance]

Trump's anti-socialist stance will turn Venezuelan American refugees, who are dealing with genocide back home, into Republicans for decades. FLIP THE SCRIPT ON THE DEMS!

 

[basquebromance]

"
“I am a Republican, I cannot understand anyone who has come from Venezuela who would be anything else,” he said, adding what made him a Republican was the idea he could achieve whatever he wanted on his own.

“Yesterday, we had a meeting with the businessmen from Venezuela. And I explained to them, when I left Venezuela, I wanted my dream was to be a millionaire, to have a big house, to have a nice car. And that's what democracy and the Republican Party's giving me,” he said of his successes since arriving here in the late 1980s."

 

[basquebromance]

"Like the Cubans who came before them who felt betrayed by the Democratic Party during the Cuban Missile Crisis, Venezuelan voters are moving their loyalty toward the Republican Party because of its strong stance against socialism and communism."

 

[basquebromance]

Most of the Venezuelans are Democrats. And I really don't understand why. Now, saying that, I see like in maybe in the last year, I see a lot of these Democrats being now pro-President Trump. They know what socialism is, they fled the results of that, they are now seeing all the opportunity and freedom that comes with capitalism and they are moving that way

 

[danielpalos]

Most of the Venezuelans are Democrats. And I really don't understand why. Now, saying that, I see like in maybe in the last year, I see a lot of these Democrats being now pro-President Trump. They know what socialism is, they fled the results of that, they are now seeing all the opportunity and freedom that comes with capitalism and they are moving that way

what economy has free market capitalism?

 

[basquebromance]

Most of the Venezuelans are Democrats. And I really don't understand why. Now, saying that, I see like in maybe in the last year, I see a lot of these Democrats being now pro-President Trump. They know what socialism is, they fled the results of that, they are now seeing all the opportunity and freedom that comes with capitalism and they are moving that way

what economy has free market capitalism?

USA!

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism has never led to Communism yet, except with a violent revolution in between. Marx was wrong about everything. People are going to have to evolve for communism to be possible except through violent revolution and total police state. Absolute garbage no one in the United States in their right mind argues for it. Socialism now means fair capitalism and that is all, brainwashed functional moron. And we don't have it here thanks to the scumbag GOP and their brainwashed dupes. We need at least to have healthcare for all.

You have no idea whether Marx was right or wrong, because you have never read Marx. You have no idea whether socialism has led to communism because you don't know what communism is nor do you have any knowledge of history.
Socialism means government control of the means of production. It means taking control from the people and giving it to rulers and lords. You seek to place the yoke of slavery on America so that Elon Musk can have more of what American's earn, so that George Soros can have a few more slaves. You hope for scraps to be thrown to you like a good toady.

that is certainly not what socialists think socialism is, super duper, or anywhere else outside your bubble of GOP ignorance. I have a masters in history, you have a masters in garbage. It's where the government owns or controls or regulates or administrates business and the definition was Karl Marx's, and then the ussr's oh, and now it is Scandinavia and the rest of the modern world. Not the Cold War dinosaur GOP fear-mongering definition.

 

[francoHFW]

Most of the Venezuelans are Democrats. And I really don't understand why. Now, saying that, I see like in maybe in the last year, I see a lot of these Democrats being now pro-President Trump. They know what socialism is, they fled the results of that, they are now seeing all the opportunity and freedom that comes with capitalism and they are moving that way

what economy has free market capitalism?

USA!

In a giveaway to the rich, screw the rest kind of way... Only pure crap propaganda makes it possible!