Concealed carry in Illinois, one year later....a "non event".....

[2aguy]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

 

[Brain357]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

What did it do for the crime rates?

In WI they went up and there was at least this incident:
Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout

Not sure how it has faired for other states, but WI shows it doesn't lower crime rates. I would guess it doesn't really effect them at all. Especially after we determined most defenses are done by criminals....

 

[2aguy]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

What did it do for the crime rates?

In WI they went up and there was at least this incident:
Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout

Not sure how it has faired for other states, but WI shows it doesn't lower crime rates. I would guess it doesn't really effect them at all. Especially after we determined most defenses are done by criminals....

From past experience...it takes at least 5 years and a certain percentage of people carrying to start to show an effect...and again....more people in the country are carrying guns and the violent crime rate is down.....

 

[2aguy]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

What did it do for the crime rates?

In WI they went up and there was at least this incident:
Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout

Not sure how it has faired for other states, but WI shows it doesn't lower crime rates. I would guess it doesn't really effect them at all. Especially after we determined most defenses are done by criminals....

From past experience...it takes at least 5 years and a certain percentage of people carrying to start to show an effect...and again....more people in the country are carrying guns and the violent crime rate is down.....

and it definitely lowers the crime rate for the victim who uses a gun to keep from being raped, robbed, beaten, stabbed or murdered...of course...since so many people don't carry....the criminal just runs away...and finds an unarmed victim....

 

[Brain357]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

What did it do for the crime rates?

In WI they went up and there was at least this incident:
Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout

Not sure how it has faired for other states, but WI shows it doesn't lower crime rates. I would guess it doesn't really effect them at all. Especially after we determined most defenses are done by criminals....

From past experience...it takes at least 5 years and a certain percentage of people carrying to start to show an effect...and again....more people in the country are carrying guns and the violent crime rate is down.....

So you will wait till the rates go down one year in WI then claim victory. I see. I have never seen any reason to believe it effects crime rates. It may however legally arm criminals.

And how has IL crime rates been?

 

[2aguy]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

What did it do for the crime rates?

In WI they went up and there was at least this incident:
Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout

Not sure how it has faired for other states, but WI shows it doesn't lower crime rates. I would guess it doesn't really effect them at all. Especially after we determined most defenses are done by criminals....

From past experience...it takes at least 5 years and a certain percentage of people carrying to start to show an effect...and again....more people in the country are carrying guns and the violent crime rate is down.....

So you will wait till the rates go down one year in WI then claim victory. I see. I have never seen any reason to believe it effects crime rates. It may however legally arm criminals.

It can't legally arm criminals....felons cannot own or carry guns.....

It takes a while for enough people to actually carry guns, and then for stories of armed victims fighting off criminals to permeate the criminal culture for the effect to happen....read John Lott's work....

 

[Brain357]

As usually happened when states wanted to follow the Bill of Rights and comply with them by not infringing on the 2nd amendment....the anti gunners said that the streets would run with blood, you would have dodge city....and on and on.....of course, there were plenty of cities that outright banned guns, D.C., Chicago...for example, that ran with blood anyway.....and after each state passed some form of carry law.....nothing bad happened....Wisconsin and Illinois being the most recent examples.....

But after passing concealed carry here in Illinois last Jan. 1...on year out....everything is fine....except in Chicago where they continue to fight citizens protecting themselves and have had a bloodbath since the new year began....

Illinois Concealed Carry Laws Are Now A Year Old Authorities Pleased So Far Concealed Nation

Last January, the state of Illinois became the last state in the country to make concealed carry legal. Thousands applied and received their permits in the first few months, but many other people were unsure of what would happen now that people could legally carry firearms around with them.

The deputy chief of the Champaign police, Joe Gallo, said “For us, it’s been a non-event.” Law enforcement from other areas of the state echoed similar statements.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh says that his department made one DUI arrest of a person who was legally carrying, and that the man was very cooperative.

As far as any problems, they have yet to encounter a single one.

“I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation,” said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. “But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don’t think this was something out of the ordinary.”

It looks like Illinois hasn’t turned into a wild west scenario that some feared. Hmm, interesting. We’d say we didn’t see that coming, but we would be lying.

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying “When you’re talking concealed-carry, it’s mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don’t cause problems anyway.”

Through mid-December, a total of 90,300 permits have been issued in the state since January.

What did it do for the crime rates?

In WI they went up and there was at least this incident:
Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout

Not sure how it has faired for other states, but WI shows it doesn't lower crime rates. I would guess it doesn't really effect them at all. Especially after we determined most defenses are done by criminals....

From past experience...it takes at least 5 years and a certain percentage of people carrying to start to show an effect...and again....more people in the country are carrying guns and the violent crime rate is down.....

So you will wait till the rates go down one year in WI then claim victory. I see. I have never seen any reason to believe it effects crime rates. It may however legally arm criminals.

It can't legally arm criminals....felons cannot own or carry guns.....

It takes a while for enough people to actually carry guns, and then for stories of armed victims fighting off criminals to permeate the criminal culture for the effect to happen....read John Lott's work....

You can be a criminal and not yet be a convicted felon.

From Kleck your favorite study on DGU
"This is true because DGUs typically involve criminal behavior, such as unlawful gun possession, by the gun-using victim, who therefore is often unwilling to report the incident."
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[JoeB131]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

That sign didn't stop nuts with guns before they were legal, why would it stop them now?

 

[2aguy]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

And those signs point out the hunting preserves of crazies with guns.....since only crazies with guns will carry their guns there.....to murder all the people who are obeying that sign.....

 

[2aguy]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

That sign didn't stop nuts with guns before they were legal, why would it stop them now?

Because they need the super dooper "no guns Allowed" signs...

"No guns allowed....and we really, really meant it...."

See...that should do it....

 

[Brain357]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

And those signs point out the hunting preserves of crazies with guns.....since only crazies with guns will carry their guns there.....to murder all the people who are obeying that sign.....

Pro gun people point out all the time how rare mass shootings are. Don't be so paranoid.

 

[JoeB131]

And those signs point out the hunting preserves of crazies with guns.....since only crazies with guns will carry their guns there.....to murder all the people who are obeying that sign.....

Actually, since gun nuts never stop mass shootings, i doubt they really look for that sign.

 

[JoeB131]

Because they need the super dooper "no guns Allowed" signs...

"No guns allowed....and we really, really meant it...."

See...that should do it....

Or, I see a gun under your coat, I ask you to leave. If you don't, I call the cops.

YOu see, a lot of those bar owners aren't worried about the hoarde of scary negroes you need to compensate for.

They are worried that one of you assholes might decide to start shooting the place up over a Cubs vs. Sox argument.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Because they need the super dooper "no guns Allowed" signs...

"No guns allowed....and we really, really meant it...."

See...that should do it....

Or, I see a gun under your coat, I ask you to leave. If you don't, I call the cops.

YOu see, a lot of those bar owners aren't worried about the hoarde of scary negroes you need to compensate for.

They are worried that one of you assholes might decide to start shooting the place up over a Cubs vs. Sox argument.

And yet you can not source all these supposed shootings, go figure.

 

[2aguy]

And those signs point out the hunting preserves of crazies with guns.....since only crazies with guns will carry their guns there.....to murder all the people who are obeying that sign.....

Actually, since gun nuts never stop mass shootings, i doubt they really look for that sign.

Joe....Joe...you know that is not true....they have stopped mass shootings...the reason why they don't stop more is that the places mass shooters go to kill......are gun free zones....which means even if a good guy could stop a mass shooter because he knows how to use a gun, he/she can't because they can't carry a gun in a gun free zone...only the killer can.....

 

[Mr. H.]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

That sign didn't stop nuts with guns before they were legal, why would it stop them now?

That's why, as an Illinois resident, I ignore those signs. Sure I take a chance of getting caught, but I think the risk is worth it.

 

[Brain357]

Yeah. Except every bar, business and Church had to put up one of these after they decided to let nuts have guns.

That sign didn't stop nuts with guns before they were legal, why would it stop them now?

That's why, as an Illinois resident, I ignore those signs. Sure I take a chance of getting caught, but I think the risk is worth it.

Is ignoring the sign illegal in IL? How many shootouts you been involved in?

 

[JoeB131]

Joe....Joe...you know that is not true....they have stopped mass shootings...the reason why they don't stop more is that the places mass shooters go to kill......are gun free zones....which means even if a good guy could stop a mass shooter because he knows how to use a gun, he/she can't because they can't carry a gun in a gun free zone...only the killer can.....

NO, they haven't. Not at all. In fact, when the gun nuts tried to list their 10 best cases of a mass shooting being stopped by a gun owner, we found out that 6 of those cases were either off duty police or military reservists.

 

[JoeB131]

That's why, as an Illinois resident, I ignore those signs. Sure I take a chance of getting caught, but I think the risk is worth it.

Yes, the best argumetn for gun control is letting the gun nuts show how completely whacked out of their minds they are.