Confederate treason - Confiscation Act of 1862

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Mind if I ask what you're basing that on? those letters came directly from Lee's family, in their own archives of his writings such as his March 12 1868 letter to his son Robert E Lee Jr. Who kept it.

I would also recommend Thomas Cooks interview with Lee for the New York herald after the war.
You already agreed the had a all black school in his home.. go away..

Yes. While he tortured his slaves for trying to be free, when he was gone his wife and daughter started a school for them
Lol it was a war.. im sure whites got the same treatment for many reasons, he was treating them blacks like equals

Actually that is a lie and countered by historical fact. In Lee's letters to grant he specifically would not trade black POWs in a POW exchange because they were in his words "Confederate property".

Also in another letter with Grant it was only black POWs that he was using as human shields on the front line of their defenses.

You post all this with no links, why is that?
 
You have some proof of that? That sounds like total fabrication to me.
Btw, pouring saltwater over wounds is to disinfect and heal, dumbass.

Personally, my opinion is you're on the level of Robert E. Lee's boot heel bottom right after he stepped in dogshit.

You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.


I put salt on my own wounds, derp!
You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.

Agreed. It would seem odd that if Lee thought that that was able to clean wounds he didn't order that to happen with his own soldiers.

Elizabeth Brown does a great job in her book breaking down the letter written by Wesley Norris

I remained with Gen. Lee about seventeen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable was called in, who gave us the number ofl ashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to "lay it on well," an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.

And finds 7 other corroborating stories as well as the receipt to the constable to torture them. Would be a good read for those interested in actual source history backed with evidence and facts
Yes or no was there a all black school in his home yes or no?

Yes while he was away, his wife and daughter started a school for the slaves he fought in court to keep enslaved and tortured for trying to be free.
So he did.. thank you go away

Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.
 
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Mind if I ask what you're basing that on? those letters came directly from Lee's family, in their own archives of his writings such as his March 12 1868 letter to his son Robert E Lee Jr. Who kept it.

I would also recommend Thomas Cooks interview with Lee for the New York herald after the war.
You already agreed the had a all black school in his home.. go away..

Yes. While he tortured his slaves for trying to be free, when he was gone his wife and daughter started a school for them
Lol it was a war.. im sure whites got the same treatment for many reasons, he was treating them blacks like equals

Actually that is a lie and countered by historical fact. In Lee's letters to grant he specifically would not trade black POWs in a POW exchange because they were in his words "Confederate property".

Also in another letter with Grant it was only black POWs that he was using as human shields on the front line of their defenses.
More fallacies.. like you know no whites were treated bad by lee lol god help us
 
Depends on what your belief of "great" is.

Take Robert E Lee.

His slaves wrote about how when a couple had escaped, he sent out a posse, found them, had them whipped and then took that torture to a whole new level by having salt water poured over their wounds. Is that "great"?

Or his slaves writing how he had broken the Custis tradition of keeping slave families together, instead selling off children, mothers, fathers, husbands and wives to never be seen again. Is that "great"?

Or you can read his writings, where he said while he felt slavery was immoral, it was also necessary. Kinda like a rapist who knows that rape is wrong, but keeps raping. Shows you why he joined the side that fought to protect and expand the institution of race based slavery.

Or you can read his writings with General Grant on a POW exchange, where he said that US black POW's would not be exchanged since they were now "Confederate property". Yes, a man who felt US POW's should be enslaved.

Or his other correspondence with Grant where he was using black POW's as human shields in fortifications that the US was attacking, where Grant threatened him to stop, or he would have to do the same and said “it is my duty to protect all persons received into the Army of the United States, regardless of color or nationality.”

So no, someone who does those things isn't "great" in my opinion. But that's me.

You have some proof of that? That sounds like total fabrication to me.
Btw, pouring saltwater over wounds is to disinfect and heal, dumbass.

Personally, my opinion is you're on the level of Robert E. Lee's boot heel bottom right after he stepped in dogshit.

You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.


I put salt on my own wounds, derp!
You have some proof of that? That sounds like total fabrication to me.
Btw, pouring saltwater over wounds is to disinfect and heal, dumbass.

Personally, my opinion is you're on the level of Robert E. Lee's boot heel bottom right after he stepped in dogshit.

You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.

Agreed. It would seem odd that if Lee thought that that was able to clean wounds he didn't order that to happen with his own soldiers.

Elizabeth Brown does a great job in her book breaking down the letter written by Wesley Norris

I remained with Gen. Lee about seventeen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable was called in, who gave us the number ofl ashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to "lay it on well," an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.

And finds 7 other corroborating stories as well as the receipt to the constable to torture them. Would be a good read for those interested in actual source history backed with evidence and facts
Yes or no was there a all black school in his home yes or no?

Yes while he was away, his wife and daughter started a school for the slaves he fought in court to keep enslaved and tortured for trying to be free.
So he did.. thank you go away

So it sounds like what you're saying is that to judge Lee as a person, we have to:

Destroy the history of his actions.
Destroy the history of his words.
Destroy the history of his writing.

And then judge him based on what other members of his family did.

An intriguing way to look at history, but if it's all you can understand, so be it.
 
You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.


I put salt on my own wounds, derp!
Agreed. It would seem odd that if Lee thought that that was able to clean wounds he didn't order that to happen with his own soldiers.

Elizabeth Brown does a great job in her book breaking down the letter written by Wesley Norris

I remained with Gen. Lee about seventeen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable was called in, who gave us the number ofl ashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to "lay it on well," an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.

And finds 7 other corroborating stories as well as the receipt to the constable to torture them. Would be a good read for those interested in actual source history backed with evidence and facts
Yes or no was there a all black school in his home yes or no?

Yes while he was away, his wife and daughter started a school for the slaves he fought in court to keep enslaved and tortured for trying to be free.
So he did.. thank you go away

Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
 
I put salt on my own wounds, derp!
Yes or no was there a all black school in his home yes or no?

Yes while he was away, his wife and daughter started a school for the slaves he fought in court to keep enslaved and tortured for trying to be free.
So he did.. thank you go away

Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?
 
You have some proof of that? That sounds like total fabrication to me.
Btw, pouring saltwater over wounds is to disinfect and heal, dumbass.

Personally, my opinion is you're on the level of Robert E. Lee's boot heel bottom right after he stepped in dogshit.

You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.


I put salt on my own wounds, derp!
You really think pouring salt water over wounds from torture is a humanitarian act to prevent infection? I usually don't think less of you for being wrong, but you usually don't stoop to such absurd lies.

Agreed. It would seem odd that if Lee thought that that was able to clean wounds he didn't order that to happen with his own soldiers.

Elizabeth Brown does a great job in her book breaking down the letter written by Wesley Norris

I remained with Gen. Lee about seventeen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable was called in, who gave us the number ofl ashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to "lay it on well," an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.

And finds 7 other corroborating stories as well as the receipt to the constable to torture them. Would be a good read for those interested in actual source history backed with evidence and facts
Yes or no was there a all black school in his home yes or no?

Yes while he was away, his wife and daughter started a school for the slaves he fought in court to keep enslaved and tortured for trying to be free.
So he did.. thank you go away

So it sounds like what you're saying is that to judge Lee as a person, we have to:

Destroy the history of his actions.
Destroy the history of his words.
Destroy the history of his writing.

And then judge him based on what other members of his family did.

An intriguing way to look at history, but if it's all you can understand, so be it.

You post no evidence, fuck off.
 
For those who want to keep the memory of the confederacy alive, understand confederates were considered traitors by the U.S. government. Also some of us need to learn the complete truth of the civil war.

Confiscation Act of 1862

The Confiscation Act was passed on July 17, 1862.[3] The defining characteristic of the act was that it called for court proceedings for seizure of land and property from disloyal citizens (supporters of the Confederacy) in the South as well as the emancipation of their slaves that came under Union control.[2] Under this act, conviction of treason against the U.S. could be punishable by death or carry a minimum prison sentence of five years and a minimum fine of $10,000.[3] This law also stated that any citizen convicted of aiding and abetting any person known to have committed treason against the United States could be imprisoned for up to 10 years and face a maximum fine of $200,000, if convicted.[3] This law specifically targeted the seizure of property of any Confederate military officer, Confederate public office holder, persons who have taken an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy or any citizen of a loyal Union state who has given aid or support to any of the aforementioned traitors to the United States of America.[3] This act helped the Union military because freed slaves could supply the forces with information to gain a strategic advantage over the Confederates.[2]

One slave, March Haynes, began smuggling slaves to the freedom of the Union lines with the help of Union General Quincy Adams Gilmore. In return for his help, Haynes provided Gilmore with "exact and valuable information" on the location of Confederate defenses and the strength of their forces.[2]

Confiscation Act of 1862 - Wikipedia

Most of us already have learned our American History. Gee . . . you think that could be why historical revisionists are having such a tough time shoving revised history down our throats? Fuck Wikipedia, and every asshole who targets the highly malleable minds of our children with history "adjusted" to fit ideological narratives.

So why don't you educate us all about the historical event that caused so many of those Confederate statues to be erected in the 50s, and 60s, and even later?

Most were in the early 20s, dumbshit.
 
I know who flies this flag. :funnyface:

Huge Confederate flag near I-4 & I-75 is one man's mission


If you mess with that old man, woe be unto you, probably the neighborhood justice society will get ya. True story. The Neighborhood Justice Society does not fuck around, they make sure justice gets served. Race is not an issue in the Neighborhood Justice Society, only right or wrong. If they vote you down, you're fucked. We all love that old man. Not that I'm a member of the NJS, because I'm not. But we do all love that guy.


Leftist POS traitors can do nothing about it. I-4 just west of 75.
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making America great again works for every American regardless of skin color

It's a slogan. Slogans don't actually do anything.

Yeah, but Americans do. At least there's a president helping us now. He really is, and that's a good thing. Best president in my lifetime. So he's not so big on the physical fitness, that's OK, just do what's good for Americans is fine by me. :)
 
Yes while he was away, his wife and daughter started a school for the slaves he fought in court to keep enslaved and tortured for trying to be free.
So he did.. thank you go away

Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?

Enslaved according to Robert E Lee. Tortured for trying to be free... According to Lee. Used as human shields... According to Lee. What race did Lee say enslavement was "Necessary" for??? Oh yeah, only blacks.

So what you are saying is you know more about Robert E Lee's actions than... Robert E Lee.
 
So he did.. thank you go away

Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?

Enslaved according to Robert E Lee. Tortured for trying to be free... According to Lee. Used as human shields... According to Lee. What race did Lee say enslavement was "Necessary" for??? Oh yeah, only blacks.

So what you are saying is you know more about Robert E Lee's actions than... Robert E Lee.

Your proof=-?

I've read the man's writings and I think you're full of bullshit.
 
So he did.. thank you go away

Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?

Enslaved according to Robert E Lee. Tortured for trying to be free... According to Lee. Used as human shields... According to Lee. What race did Lee say enslavement was "Necessary" for??? Oh yeah, only blacks.

So what you are saying is you know more about Robert E Lee's actions than... Robert E Lee.
Yes it was war lol and whites where treated just as worse .. are you a retard?
 
Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?

Enslaved according to Robert E Lee. Tortured for trying to be free... According to Lee. Used as human shields... According to Lee. What race did Lee say enslavement was "Necessary" for??? Oh yeah, only blacks.

So what you are saying is you know more about Robert E Lee's actions than... Robert E Lee.
Yes it was war lol and whites where treated just as worse .. are you a retard?
SandSquid is a lying sack of crap. Total fucking liar that POS is. Here's the real deal:
I already knew, but then I did a little research. The motherfucking leftists try to change history all the time, watch out for their kenniving pos asses.

Massachusetts Historical Society: "All are gone who desire to do so": Robert E. Lee and Slavery
 
Republicans support the confederacy today.
Sista please....Surely you are not insinuating
that Republicans want to own and enslave Africans...right

Because if you are......

ROFLMFAO ROFLMFAO ROFLMFAO
I am saying that todays republican party supports the confederacy.




I am saying that you are an ignorant, stupid fuck with a massive chip on your shoulder over something that you were never subjected to. Neither political party gives a flying fuck about you or us. They are one and the same at the very top. We are all 14th amendment debt slaves whose labor was pledged as surety against the debt of USA.INC and we don't have "rights", we have privileges that we are allowed to keep as long as we do not displease this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body. I don't respect it nor would I ever pledge loyalty to it.

So,take your stupidity and rainbow colored "demcrat" commie flag and shove it up that black ass of yours.

This is the history section bitch. So you take your punk white ass into every thread and tell everybody here the same thing or take keepigitfake and go find a dick to suck on. Fuck you and your debt slave bullshit.


What exactly is a "history section bitch", dumb ass?

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You are a racist, ignorant piece of shit, dude...nothing more or less. Save the queer talk for the gay bathhouses that queers like Barrypuppet and Don Lemon frequent.


P.S You haven't the foggiest clue about our REAL history, dipshit.

This is the history section of USMB debt slave. Now run along. Maybe you'll find the Rothchilds when you attend the next Trilateral Commission meeting.
 
Sand Squid posts truth and lost cause idiots like the maid can't accept it.
 
Yup. Just make sure you know that there is no evidence he supported or oversaw that school. Only that he supported and oversaw his slaves remaining enslaved and their torture for being free.

Sickening that people still today support that kind of evil
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?

Enslaved according to Robert E Lee. Tortured for trying to be free... According to Lee. Used as human shields... According to Lee. What race did Lee say enslavement was "Necessary" for??? Oh yeah, only blacks.

So what you are saying is you know more about Robert E Lee's actions than... Robert E Lee.
Yes it was war lol and whites where treated just as worse .. are you a retard?

No. You think you're actually debating me. I'm just telling you what Robert E Lee did said and wrote. If you think that Robert E Lee isn't a good source about Robert E Lee, that would be retarded.

You asked a question. I said Robert E Lee believed that black POWs should be enslaved and used as human shields. If you feel that whites were treated the same please provide evidence of such.

But please don't go full retard and try to tell me that Robert E Lee isn't a good source on Robert E Lee.
 
He tortured a lot of people it was war,, and you have no evidence but hearsay about how he felt about the school Just fallacies..I’m sure he would have had a day of something like that IN HIS HOUSE.

Yes but you said he treated both equally, which is clearly not true by his own words. So you lied.
What did a black get that a white didn’t?

Enslaved according to Robert E Lee. Tortured for trying to be free... According to Lee. Used as human shields... According to Lee. What race did Lee say enslavement was "Necessary" for??? Oh yeah, only blacks.

So what you are saying is you know more about Robert E Lee's actions than... Robert E Lee.
Yes it was war lol and whites where treated just as worse .. are you a retard?

No. You think you're actually debating me. I'm just telling you what Robert E Lee did said and wrote. If you think that Robert E Lee isn't a good source about Robert E Lee, that would be retarded.

You asked a question. I said Robert E Lee believed that black POWs should be enslaved and used as human shields. If you feel that whites were treated the same please provide evidence of such.

But please don't go full retard and try to tell me that Robert E Lee isn't a good source on Robert E Lee.
Believe what you want.. I like real history
 
Sista please....Surely you are not insinuating
that Republicans want to own and enslave Africans...right

Because if you are......

ROFLMFAO ROFLMFAO ROFLMFAO
I am saying that todays republican party supports the confederacy.




I am saying that you are an ignorant, stupid fuck with a massive chip on your shoulder over something that you were never subjected to. Neither political party gives a flying fuck about you or us. They are one and the same at the very top. We are all 14th amendment debt slaves whose labor was pledged as surety against the debt of USA.INC and we don't have "rights", we have privileges that we are allowed to keep as long as we do not displease this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body. I don't respect it nor would I ever pledge loyalty to it.

So,take your stupidity and rainbow colored "demcrat" commie flag and shove it up that black ass of yours.

This is the history section bitch. So you take your punk white ass into every thread and tell everybody here the same thing or take keepigitfake and go find a dick to suck on. Fuck you and your debt slave bullshit.


What exactly is a "history section bitch", dumb ass?

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You are a racist, ignorant piece of shit, dude...nothing more or less. Save the queer talk for the gay bathhouses that queers like Barrypuppet and Don Lemon frequent.


P.S You haven't the foggiest clue about our REAL history, dipshit.

This is the history section of USMB debt slave. Now run along. Maybe you'll find the Rothchilds when you attend the next Trilateral Commission meeting.

I reckon you're the "debt slave", no?
Aren't you in debt and waiting on that reparations check to get you out of it?
 

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