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There is a chance.Are they wrong? It's an aweful situation. But this poor kid is only alive because of a ventilator. The poor parents are blinded wh grief .
I hate to be cold, but how many resources are being used for this baby that doesn't have a chance ?
People said the same thing about this boy a few years ago. I forget his name or what was wrong with him but he was supposed to die years ago. He is still alive.
We arent perfect. We are constantly learning new things. Its to be expected.
Even if, that shit shouldnt matter. That judge or judges shouldnt determine what happens to that kid.
DEATH PANEL
What about his doctors? Should they get a say?
Of course they get a say. Their say its to give the parents an informed spectrum of options and allow them to make the best choice for their child and family.
Every doctor takes an oath to do no harm. Withholding treatment violates that oath.
Treatments are specific actions that have a chance of helping. "Treatment" is NOT throwing anything and everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
And this has a chance of working. So what's your point
Why doesn't this couple adopt a child, one who is hungry, why because they are selfish people. You want a baby and can't have one, adopt , do not get in vitro. Look in the mirror next time you are anti the ACA and expanded Medicaid. Look in the mirror next time you think we should nuke Iran and NK.
so weird that you don't see that the parents are fighting the government to keep their child alive.im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .
The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !
Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !
Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others
wait, no it's not, this is the shit you were hoping for.
murder by vote.
fucking leftists are just so evil.
Lefty Death Panels.
BTW, they exist in Obamacare...already.
Lets get some proof they exist in the ACA?? Got any links to prove it, or examples. Anything, or just a talking point.
so weird that you don't see that the parents are fighting the government to keep their child alive.im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .
The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !
Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !
Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others
wait, no it's not, this is the shit you were hoping for.
murder by vote.
fucking leftists are just so evil.
Lefty Death Panels.
BTW, they exist in Obamacare...already.
Lets get some proof they exist in the ACA?? Got any links to prove it, or examples. Anything, or just a talking point.
Now you can believe in Death Panels too! It is just more of the same as the first four bulleted items are.
- Do you believe in Evolution?
- Do you believe in Global Warming?
- Do you believe The Planet is Overpopulated?
- Do you believe in On Demand Abortion?
All five items above deal with death, birth control, sterilization, survival of the fittest, law of the jungle, and reducing the population of Earth through natural and artificial means.
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Obamacare death panels should be ended
By Peter J. Ferrara - - Wednesday, June 14, 2017
ANALYSIS/OPINION:
Buried deep within Obamacare is a provision that takes away health care from you and your doctors, by taking away payment for critical health care that may be needed to save your life. It is called The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB).
The board will be independent of you, your doctors, your hospitals, Medicare, Congress, the judiciary, the democratic process, ultimately even the Constitution itself. As the Cato Institute tried to warn us five years ago, IPAB is “independent in the worst sense of the word: independent of Congress, independent of the president, independent of the judiciary, and independent of the will of the people.”
IPAB is to be composed of 15 unelected bureaucrats appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. But the board and its powers are so dangerous that even President Obama never made any appointments.
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DEATH PANELS are a fact just like Liberals Lie is a fact.
Probably why they want different doctors.Would you like someone else to decide what happens with your son? I wouldnt. Especially some asshole statist telling me i couldnt take him to the hospital i wanted.What about his doctors? Should they get a say?
From what I read, it's his doctors that are encouraging stopping treatment. Then the courts told them to keep going, until they could look at the case and decide.
They have raised over a million euros for treatment here. The Vatican hospital said they would take him in.
Both were denied by someone that isnt affected AT ALL.
And that's the problem. The government is making the decision, not the patient
No the doctors, who by the way are highly trained.
Why doesn't this couple adopt a child, one who is hungry, why because they are selfish people. You want a baby and can't have one, adopt , do not get in vitro. Look in the mirror next time you are anti the ACA and expanded Medicaid. Look in the mirror next time you think we should nuke Iran and NK.
so weird that you don't see that the parents are fighting the government to keep their child alive.im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .
The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !
Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !
Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others
wait, no it's not, this is the shit you were hoping for.
murder by vote.
fucking leftists are just so evil.
Lefty Death Panels.
BTW, they exist in Obamacare...already.
Lets get some proof they exist in the ACA?? Got any links to prove it, or examples. Anything, or just a talking point.
Now you can believe in Death Panels too! It is just more of the same as the first four bulleted items are.
- Do you believe in Evolution?
- Do you believe in Global Warming?
- Do you believe The Planet is Overpopulated?
- Do you believe in On Demand Abortion?
All five items above deal with death, birth control, sterilization, survival of the fittest, law of the jungle, and reducing the population of Earth through natural and artificial means.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Obamacare death panels should be ended
By Peter J. Ferrara - - Wednesday, June 14, 2017
ANALYSIS/OPINION:
Buried deep within Obamacare is a provision that takes away health care from you and your doctors, by taking away payment for critical health care that may be needed to save your life. It is called The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB).
The board will be independent of you, your doctors, your hospitals, Medicare, Congress, the judiciary, the democratic process, ultimately even the Constitution itself. As the Cato Institute tried to warn us five years ago, IPAB is “independent in the worst sense of the word: independent of Congress, independent of the president, independent of the judiciary, and independent of the will of the people.”
IPAB is to be composed of 15 unelected bureaucrats appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. But the board and its powers are so dangerous that even President Obama never made any appointments.
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DEATH PANELS are a fact just like Liberals Lie is a fact.
Why doesn't this couple adopt a child, one who is hungry, why because they are selfish people. You want a baby and can't have one, adopt , do not get in vitro. Look in the mirror next time you are anti the ACA and expanded Medicaid. Look in the mirror next time you think we should nuke Iran and NK.
What kind of heartless person are you? They have a child. The one you want to die.
Adoption doesn't replace the loss of a child. Children aren't commodities that we can buy or sell if one doesn't work right.
I mean seriously wth?!
What do you have against learning more about treating this disease and letting doctors and family help this child live? Do you hate him and his family that much?
He is going to be a guinea pig. He is not going to be alive, as he is not now. Machines are keeping him alive and will for as long as you want.
What would Planned Parenthood do with Charlie?
Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
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I never said that, you idiot.
There is a chance.im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .
The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !
Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !
Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others
The bigger issue is that you're ignoring the very "death panels" you were warned about.
Are they wrong? It's an aweful situation. But this poor kid is only alive because of a ventilator. The poor parents are blinded wh grief .
I hate to be cold, but how many resources are being used for this baby that doesn't have a chance ?
People said the same thing about this boy a few years ago. I forget his name or what was wrong with him but he was supposed to die years ago. He is still alive.
We arent perfect. We are constantly learning new things. Its to be expected.
Even if, that shit shouldnt matter. That judge or judges shouldnt determine what happens to that kid.
DEATH PANEL
What about his doctors? Should they get a say?
He is going to be a guinea pig. He is not going to be alive, as he is not now. Machines are keeping him alive and will for as long as you want.
What would Planned Parenthood do with Charlie?
Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
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I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
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He is going to be a guinea pig. He is not going to be alive, as he is not now. Machines are keeping him alive and will for as long as you want.
What would Planned Parenthood do with Charlie?
Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
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I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
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They have got some. They raised over a million dollars. It would be enough for experimental treatment. Hell, they couldnt even go to the vatican! I think that might have been free. Not sure though.If they have the money, which they do, who cares?im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .
The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !
Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !
Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others
And who in the holy fuck does European courts think they are? I would tell them to shove it up their statist asses.
They do not have enough money for around the clock care for the life of the child.
What would Planned Parenthood do with Charlie?
Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
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Why does a British couple need American food stamps?
What would Planned Parenthood do with Charlie?
Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
You talk about crap and people you know nothing of....it's why you're viewed as a moron, moron
They have got some. They raised over a million dollars. It would be enough for experimental treatment. Hell, they couldnt even go to the vatican! I think that might have been free. Not sure though.If they have the money, which they do, who cares?im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .
The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !
Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !
Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others
And who in the holy fuck does European courts think they are? I would tell them to shove it up their statist asses.
They do not have enough money for around the clock care for the life of the child.
It's not "treatment".
It would only prolong the time he is forced to "breathe" on a respirator.
No, the vatican would never even consider spending any of their trillions $$$ on a sick baby.
A non-viable fetus? Yes.
A child? Never.
There is nothing that can change how this horribly sad situation ends.
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Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
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You talk about crap and people you know nothing of....it's why you're viewed as a moron, moron
SassyIrishLass
So you're in favor of food stamps for the poor?
You believe we should help the elderly? Children and babies? Veterans? Handicapped?
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Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
You talk about crap and people you know nothing of....it's why you're viewed as a moron, moron
SassyIrishLass
So you're in favor of food stamps for the poor?
You believe we should help the elderly? Children and babies? Veterans? Handicapped?
[emoji57]
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Left to them he'd have died in the womb and parted out to the highest bidder.
Freaking ghouls
You have said that you would torture a dying British child while denying health care to an American child.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
I never said that, you idiot.
And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.
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Why does a British couple need American food stamps?
You phony christians pretend you care about this baby but have voted against health care and even food stamps for the sick, handicapped poor in the US.
I started a thread in healthcare about another little boy who needs help and not one of you miserable hypocrites had anything to say.
