Conservative Democrat

[Open Bolt]

If you support right wingers, and vote for right wingers, you are a right winger. Doesn't matter what you want to call yourself.

I'm content to be labeled a rightwinger. Although I'm more of a NRA rightwinger. I care about gun policy. I don't care about much else.

Well, I do have some opinions on other things, but my passion on those issues is weak.


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Then why are you here? There's gotta be more of a reason, than a friend... Because the friend would be all over you now, giving love.

Being able to keep in touch with a friend is reason enough for me.

But I'm participating in threads here too.


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Honestly? Since that war started in Europe? There are so many of you here now. . . socks, trolls, bots, etc.? I can't keep track of y'all.
Any casual observer viewing or reading this forum for information or experienced political commentary among seasoned members, probably shouldn't take any comments from anyone that is a member, unless they have been a member from at least before January of this year. Otherwise, who the hell knows what agenda the new member could be, or what they are concealing?

I've never seen the point of worrying about sock puppets. Whatever a post says, it says it regardless of who posted it.

If I have a response to a post, I have that response no matter who wrote it.

I also have never had much problem with Russian propaganda minions when I cross paths with them. I like to remind them that if Russia starts a nuclear war with NATO, Russian cities will burn. They seldom appreciate being reminded of that.


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I don't care for politics on an INH post. For me, it's a red flag that it's a sock. But you know, I'm New Here... what do i know...

But how do I tell people who I am without describing my political views?

I kept it pretty basic and just gave a general description of my location on the political spectrum.


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A conservative democrat seems to be a contradiction in terms. Is that sorta like Joe Manchin, a democrat that isn't a far Left lunatic? Maybe we should start a thread on that.

Joe Manchin is a great example. I can't promise that I align with him on all issues (I've never bothered to learn where he stands on most issues). But in general, yes. Think of me as being like him.

Except, if an issue isn't gun related, I probably don't get too passionate about it. I expect that Joe Manchin might have strong interests in multiple areas.

 

[Open Bolt]

For what it's worth, "open bolt" is a gun term. Mostly a machine gun term.

Semi-auto guns are at their best when firing from a closed bolt. Full-auto guns are at their best when firing from an open bolt.

If a gun has both semi-auto and full-auto capability, it will fire from a closed bolt if the designer took the semi-auto role seriously. If the designer did not take the semi-auto role seriously then it will probably fire from an open bolt.

Think of a preference for open bolt guns as not only a preference for full-auto, but also not caring a whit about any semi-auto options.

Guns that fire from a closed bolt: Pretty much any assault rifle. Also the H&K MP5 and any submachine gun design newer than that.

Guns that fire from an open bolt: Light machine guns, general purpose machine guns, and older submachine gun designs from the original Tommy gun up through the Uzi and Mac-10.

 

[BULLDOG]

I'm content to be labeled a rightwinger. Although I'm more of a NRA rightwinger. I care about gun policy. I don't care about much else.

Well, I do have some opinions on other things, but my passion on those issues is weak.


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Being able to keep in touch with a friend is reason enough for me.

But I'm participating in threads here too.


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I've never seen the point of worrying about sock puppets. Whatever a post says, it says it regardless of who posted it.

If I have a response to a post, I have that response no matter who wrote it.

I also have never had much problem with Russian propaganda minions when I cross paths with them. I like to remind them that if Russia starts a nuclear war with NATO, Russian cities will burn. They seldom appreciate being reminded of that.


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But how do I tell people who I am without describing my political views?

I kept it pretty basic and just gave a general description of my location on the political spectrum.


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Joe Manchin is a great example. I can't promise that I align with him on all issues (I've never bothered to learn where he stands on most issues). But in general, yes. Think of me as being like him.

Except, if an issue isn't gun related, I probably don't get too passionate about it. I expect that Joe Manchin might have strong interests in multiple areas.

So you are just another gun nut. When did you first realize you were such a coward?

 

[Feeding Crows]

You don't need to lay it out on the INH post. Just say HI! And a little about yourself, and whether you like lesbians and aliens. That's all that's necessary. You can establish your political/religious identity in future posts in other threads. Doing it in the INH thread, is going to attract assholes like us! Because there are so many socks.

 

[frigidweirdo]

OK, so I'm a conservative Democrat.

As far as messageboard discussions go I am much more conservative than I am Democrat. Expect me to mostly side with the right.

I am a bit bored with general politics at the moment, and will probably engage only on specific issues like gun control or military spending (I tend to be pro-weapon in all cases).

I discovered this place because the place where I usually post has apparently decided to start purging all their conservatives and become a leftist propaganda site. One of my friends there is a longtime poster here and recommended this place to me.

Well, whatever your persuasion you should find a place here. Just remember that the ignore button exists so you can blank those people who insult all the time.

 

[2aguy]

OK, so I'm a conservative Democrat.

As far as messageboard discussions go I am much more conservative than I am Democrat. Expect me to mostly side with the right.

I am a bit bored with general politics at the moment, and will probably engage only on specific issues like gun control or military spending (I tend to be pro-weapon in all cases).

I discovered this place because the place where I usually post has apparently decided to start purging all their conservatives and become a leftist propaganda site. One of my friends there is a longtime poster here and recommended this place to me.

Sorry.......the democrat part nullifies the conservative part......

 

[YoursTruly]

I voted this last time, but voted 3rd party (Libertarian) in 2016. I am one of those that thinks, if you arn an American Citizen, you have an obligation to vote. I have not missed a vote since 1972. If you don't vote, you are quite likely to get what you asked for, though and never have much real reason to complain.

I've been voting consecutively for 4 decades. Rarely missed a vote. But lately, it's made me feel creepy when I went into the voting booth. Like I was being owned. And thinking back, I don't recall anyone I ever voted for (in the House, Senate or potus) ever winning.
So, at the moment, I don't think I'll ever vote again. At least for those 3 races. I'm a conservative, not a republican. Since the GOP has outlawed actual conservatives and conservatism, my reasons for voting has become almost nil.

I get the whole "it's you duty" thing. That's why I've always voted. But is it really a duty? Or is that just the propaganda they've used to brainwash & "own" me for 40 years?

If the WALL hasn't gone up in your way of thinking vs my way of thinking, check this out. She's a little dramatic. But what she's saying is starting to ring a lot truer than the whole "it's your duty to vote" way of thinking.

 

[lg325]

To not be involved is slavery. Democracy makes individuals free but only if the individual is involved in democracy. Interesting video. Thanks for posting it.

I've been voting consecutively for 4 decades. Rarely missed a vote. But lately, it's made me feel creepy when I went into the voting booth. Like I was being owned. And thinking back, I don't recall anyone I ever voted for (in the House, Senate or potus) ever winning.
So, at the moment, I don't think I'll ever vote again. At least for those 3 races. I'm a conservative, not a republican. Since the GOP has outlawed actual conservatives and conservatism, my reasons for voting has become almost nil.

I get the whole "it's you duty" thing. That's why I've always voted. But is it really a duty? Or is that just the propaganda they've used to brainwash & "own" me for 40 years?

If the WALL hasn't gone up in your way of thinking vs my way of thinking, check this out. She's a little dramatic. But what she's saying is starting to ring a lot truer than the whole "it's your duty to vote" way of thinking.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

OK, so I'm a conservative Democrat.

As far as messageboard discussions go I am much more conservative than I am Democrat. Expect me to mostly side with the right.

I am a bit bored with general politics at the moment, and will probably engage only on specific issues like gun control or military spending (I tend to be pro-weapon in all cases).

I discovered this place because the place where I usually post has apparently decided to start purging all their conservatives and become a leftist propaganda site. One of my friends there is a longtime poster here and recommended this place to me.

Are you an American or are you a Democrat?

 

[YoursTruly]

To not be involved is slavery. Democracy makes individuals free but only if the individual is involved in democracy. Interesting video. Thanks for posting it.

Even just 1 year ago, what you just said, is something I would've said and believed whole heartedly. But honestly, if voting worked, they wouldn't let us do it.
It's the government that owns and operates the voting machines. It's the government that pushes "voting." It's their rules, their field, their everything. And what do they get out of it? They get your permission to continue what they've been doing for over 100 years now.

It's like a 16yr old giving his parents a choice to allow him to either use meth or heroin. That's their only choice. Of course the obvious answer is neither. But people that vote, aren't choosing neither. They choosing the meth or heroin.

I've witnessed 4 decades of GOP and democrat majorities. Republican and democrat potus's. And haven't seen more than an ounce of difference in either one of those, when it comes to things that actually improve the lives of most people. Especially those of us in the middle class. The upper class get's a lot of benefits from both. And the welfare sponges at the bottom get's a lot of support from both. But for those of us out here in the middle, it's the same struggles, day in and day out.

 

[White 6]

I've been voting consecutively for 4 decades. Rarely missed a vote. But lately, it's made me feel creepy when I went into the voting booth. Like I was being owned. And thinking back, I don't recall anyone I ever voted for (in the House, Senate or potus) ever winning.
So, at the moment, I don't think I'll ever vote again. At least for those 3 races. I'm a conservative, not a republican. Since the GOP has outlawed actual conservatives and conservatism, my reasons for voting has become almost nil.

I get the whole "it's you duty" thing. That's why I've always voted. But is it really a duty? Or is that just the propaganda they've used to brainwash & "own" me for 40 years?

If the WALL hasn't gone up in your way of thinking vs my way of thinking, check this out. She's a little dramatic. But what she's saying is starting to ring a lot truer than the whole "it's your duty to vote" way of thinking.

My winnings are greater than my losing votes but some turned out worse that I figured. I did Nixon, but turned out he was a shit. Voted Carter and he got screwed by Dems, Reps, Opec, Iran, the US Military. Heck, I couldn't vote for the asshole that had just pardoned Nixon. I voted Reagan twice, that turned out mostly OK, until he wanted a war we wouldn't go along with and started using unusual (to say the least) methods to have one anyway. I voted Daddy Bush and liked it enough to try it again, but he lost to Bill, because the Republican got their nose out of joint over "No new taxes". With Newt doing a really good job of counterbalance to Bill, Bill turned out to be one of the best, and would have gone down like that, if he hadn't had Monica going down on him, right in the oval office, and made me lose my taste for cigars. I Vote for Big Al, cause I figured Son-Of-A-Bush would start a war, as we were about due. I was proven correct and we undoubtably would have been far better off never going to Iraq, though I supported and volunteered for Afghanistan. After he killed the economy, wrecked my retirement, and shut down the plant I worked for, I voted Obama. Mediocre President, but a smart guy, at least doing economic policy and backing monetary policy that allowed me to partially recoup, so I voted for him twice. In 2016 both candidate were proven of low character, with only principles being whatever is best for Number #1, so refusing to endorse or vote for either on, I went with Gary Johnson, figuring he would do the least harm, if by some outside chance he actually got elected, as both main parties would thwart his every move, similar to Carter. I gave Donny 9 or 10 months to prove he wasn't the low down asshole I thought he was, but he didn't. How he fooled the rubes, I will never know. Good lesson there, character counts. Joe projected himself a uniter instead of a divider and a moderate (and may be moderate in a way, but if he is, he's a spineless kind of moderate, as I am convinced somebody or group is pulling his strings on everything domestic), as there ain't much moderate coming through if there was ever any to begin with. I figure we'd be better off with Amy, but she failed the primaries. At least he beat trump and is doing a much better job on foreign policy, strengthening ties with traditional allies, getting us the heck out of Afghanistan and is spot on, on Ukraine. Other than that, Uncle Joe is kind of clueless and his economic and domestic policy looks pretty shortsighted and partisan. So whose next?

 

[YoursTruly]

My winnings are greater than my losing votes but some turned out worse that I figured. I did Nixon, but turned out he was a shit. Voted Carter and he got screwed by Dems, Reps, Opec, Iran, the US Military. Heck, I couldn't vote for the asshole that had just pardoned Nixon. I voted Reagan twice, that turned out mostly OK, until he wanted a war we wouldn't go along with and started using unusual (to say the least) methods to have one anyway. I voted Daddy Bush and liked it enough to try it again, but he lost to Bill, because the Republican got their nose out of joint over "No new taxes". With Newt doing a really good job of counterbalance to Bill, Bill turned out to be one of the best, and would have gone down like that, if he hadn't had Monica going down on him, right in the oval office, and made me lose my taste for cigars. I Vote for Big Al, cause I figured Son-Of-A-Bush would start a war, as we were about due. I was proven correct and we undoubtably would have been far better off never going to Iraq, though I supported and volunteered for Afghanistan. After he killed the economy, wrecked my retirement, and shut down the plant I worked for, I voted Obama. Mediocre President, but a smart guy, at least doing economic policy and backing monetary policy that allowed me to partially recoup, so I voted for him twice. In 2016 both candidate were proven of low character, with only principles being whatever is best for Number #1, so refusing to endorse or vote for either on, I went with Gary Johnson, figuring he would do the least harm, if by some outside chance he actually got elected, as both main parties would thwart his every move, similar to Carter. I gave Donny 9 or 10 months to prove he wasn't the low down asshole I thought he was, but he didn't. How he fooled the rubes, I will never know. Good lesson there, character counts. Joe projected himself a uniter instead of a divider and a moderate (and may be moderate in a way, but if he is, he's a spineless kind of moderate, as I am convinced somebody or group is pulling his strings on everything domestic), as there ain't much moderate coming through if there was ever any to begin with. I figure we'd be better off with Amy, but she failed the primaries. At least he beat trump and is doing a much better job on foreign policy, strengthening ties with traditional allies, getting us the heck out of Afghanistan and is spot on, on Ukraine. Other than that, Uncle Joe is kind of clueless and his economic and domestic policy looks pretty shortsighted and partisan. So whose next?

Good post. I've flip flopped on parties myself. But as far as my earnings, and how much better my life was (or worse) with each president, they had no effect on my decisions or my livelihood. I made money on every president because of the personal decisions and the jobs I chose. None of which were government jobs. If people bitch and complain that they're not making money now under Biden, or didn't make money during Trump, I doubt it has anything to do with who was president.

Who's next? Who knows? Who ever the RNC and DNC put up, I suppose.

Back in 2012, I got heavily involved with the RNC. A close friend of mine, during that same primary season, got heavily involved with the DNC. Both of looking to become a delegate at the national convention. I was vying for Ron Paul. After a month of going to meetings, listening to what being a delegate actually does, gave me the idea that this was just a fraud show. I kept moving forward with the process, but got turned off by it constantly.
It was all about rules and changing the Party Platform. Nothing about supporting our candidate of choice. About 1/3rd into it, I was advised by the local chairman's assistant to not even bring up Ron Paul, or I'd be blackballed. Others that were there for someone other than (Gingrich and Santorum) were told the same thing. One got upset and brought this up in a meeting. He was escorted out of the building. (He was pretty hot about it all)

Finally the chairman's assistant came clean to us, off the record. Saying that the party would be supporting Romney. And that if we couldn't get behind Romney, we'd never be able to be delegates. And that we wouldn't even be allowed to go to the State convention.
Checking in with my friend, his story was a little different, but amounted to the same end result. I suppose they went about it a different way. Maybe he approached it differently. But said one day, it was like someone turned on a light switch for Obama and suddenly that who everyone started supporting.

Watching the news regularly, these two candidates started getting more and more air time. More questions during the debates. To both he and I, it was like a slap in the face. To think that back then, our biggest worry was electronic voting machines. Turns out the real rigging was the parties themselves.

So who's next? Who ever the party leadership chooses, unless something has changed in 10 years. Which I doubt. In fact, it lead me to suspect the whole "Trump take over of the RNC" was just a fabrication.

That year gave me political trust issues.

 

[White 6]

Good post. I've flip flopped on parties myself. But as far as my earnings, and how much better my life was (or worse) with each president, they had no effect on my decisions or my livelihood. I made money on every president because of the personal decisions and the jobs I chose. None of which were government jobs. If people bitch and complain that they're not making money now under Biden, or didn't make money during Trump, I doubt it has anything to do with who was president.

Who's next? Who knows? Who ever the RNC and DNC put up, I suppose.

Back in 2012, I got heavily involved with the RNC. A close friend of mine, during that same primary season, got heavily involved with the DNC. Both of looking to become a delegate at the national convention. I was vying for Ron Paul. After a month of going to meetings, listening to what being a delegate actually does, gave me the idea that this was just a fraud show. I kept moving forward with the process, but got turned off by it constantly.
It was all about rules and changing the Party Platform. Nothing about supporting our candidate of choice. About 1/3rd into it, I was advised by the local chairman's assistant to not even bring up Ron Paul, or I'd be blackballed. Others that were there for someone other than (Gingrich and Santorum) were told the same thing. One got upset and brought this up in a meeting. He was escorted out of the building. (He was pretty hot about it all)

Finally the chairman's assistant came clean to us, off the record. Saying that the party would be supporting Romney. And that if we couldn't get behind Romney, we'd never be able to be delegates. And that we wouldn't even be allowed to go to the State convention.
Checking in with my friend, his story was a little different, but amounted to the same end result. I suppose they went about it a different way. Maybe he approached it differently. But said one day, it was like someone turned on a light switch for Obama and suddenly that who everyone started supporting.

Watching the news regularly, these two candidates started getting more and more air time. More questions during the debates. To both he and I, it was like a slap in the face. To think that back then, our biggest worry was electronic voting machines. Turns out the real rigging was the parties themselves.

So who's next? Who ever the party leadership chooses, unless something has changed in 10 years. Which I doubt. In fact, it lead me to suspect the whole "Trump take over of the RNC" was just a fabrication.

That year gave me political trust issues.

Having little effect on you, speaks well of you, as you made your way along your path.

I do not see anybody particularly impressive or that I would have high hopes for the Democrat side and I suspect you know my feelings and fears of a trumper coming into power. The loudmouths on both sides suck the oxygen out the room and just fill it with noise.

I bet it was an interesting month and an unfortunate eye opener. I've never sought to be involved, simply watching from the outside and from my own independent point of view. Yep the two parties do suck, to where we have been having to pick between the lesser of two evils.

Good post. Thanks for your time.