Conservatives: how much money do you think billionaires are obligated to give...

[TemplarKormac]

Yes, obviously I am singling out billionaires when it comes to responsibility. It is a matter of excess. Do you notice I am not including millionaires in this topic?

Uh yeah, because the richer they are, the more they can give, right? Please stop. You are not making your point well.

Um if i am not making my point well why do you understand it?

Because I've heard so much bullshit, I can understand it now. Unfortunate but true, Bill.

The language of Bullshit. I understand it well.

 

[Billy000]

Uh yeah, because the richer they are, the more they can give, right? Please stop. You are not making your point well.

Um if i am not making my point well why do you understand it?

Because I've heard so much bullshit, I can understand it now. Unfortunate but true, Bill.

The language of Bullshit. I understand it well.

Oh I'm sure you do have a firm understanding of bullshit.

 

[Wyatt earp]

If we can require young men to give their lives for the good of the country, then we can certainly require billionaires to give money for the good of the country.

Are you saying billionaires pay zero taxes?

Our last two wars were fought by all volunteer armies, you know the ones the liberals said would never happen.

What were our last 2 wars? I mean we have a permanent war economy now so you have to be more specific but if you're referring to Iraq and Afghanistan then yes, there has been no drafting of young men yet. The "defense" industry found out during the Vietnam war days that the draft wasn't too popular so the war department doesn't have to do the hard thing yet. Better to induce young people into the military for economic reasons by help with education money for instance. This is why Lyndie England went in the service. To ultimately get an education. She ended up doing prison time and war criminal bush just had a library opened in his honor with obama licking his rear end and telling the world what a great guy bush is. Also, without a draft we're able to enrich the defense contractor industry by using contractors to drive trucks, serve food etc. Pay them way more than the troops and they don't have to worry about the UCMJ like the ordinary government issues (GI's) had to. Not to worry, Halliburton and the like will be defended to death their right to pay as few taxes as possible by ass kissing republicans.

By the way, the ending of the Vietnam war was due to liberals and socialists protesting the draft.

So what your trying to say is we dont have a draft but we really do due to the mean rich people? nah, I doubt their ever will be a draft again due to technology and the few articles I read say the militarys top brass wants the best it can get in the armed forces and not a bunch of slackers. and people really do have to read the fine print when they sign up "warning you could get yourself killed"

 

[LogikAndReazon]

The moral thing to do would be for these wealthy donors to give those "excess" funds to bureaucrats so that they can decide what social justice programs to fund and whats best for the common good.....

LMFAO

 

[Pogo]

How much useless money have you had in your lifetime?

How is this thread about me?

You made the statement about people having useless leftover money and that it exists. I figured you had first hand knowledge. If not, then can you point to anyone that has useless leftover money?

Sure. See the subject of my last post.

Another example: see Warren Buffet, who gave that subject's foundation a billion and a half. Obviously if they needed or wanted that money for some other purpose, it would not have gone into that foundation.

When I get to the point of excess money myself, I'll let you know.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

How is this thread about me?

You made the statement about people having useless leftover money and that it exists. I figured you had first hand knowledge. If not, then can you point to anyone that has useless leftover money?

Sure. See the subject of my last post.

Another example: see Warren Buffet, who gave that subject's foundation a billion and a half. Obviously if they needed or wanted that money for some other purpose, it would not have gone into that foundation.

When I get to the point of excess money myself, I'll let you know.

The money Buffet gave served a purpose, it wasn't useless.

You failed.

Try again!

 

[Pogo]

You made the statement about people having useless leftover money and that it exists. I figured you had first hand knowledge. If not, then can you point to anyone that has useless leftover money?

Sure. See the subject of my last post.

Another example: see Warren Buffet, who gave that subject's foundation a billion and a half. Obviously if they needed or wanted that money for some other purpose, it would not have gone into that foundation.

When I get to the point of excess money myself, I'll let you know.

The money Buffet gave served a purpose, it wasn't useless.

You failed.

Try again!

No, you failed, because that ain't what I said. Take a reading course. The only "useless" invocation above is yours.

I said it was "excess", that which is over and above what can be used.
If it's over and above what can be used, and it's not used, then it would be useless.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Being a billionaire is excess. Anyone who earns that luxury deserves that luxury, but there is such a thing as misusing your fortune. As a billionaire, you can set up both yourself and your family for life and still have a shit load left over.

Why not put it to good use? Cancer research, diabetes, boys and girls program, take your pick. To me it is just WRONG to squander something that can do so much good.

You contradicted yourself so many times there that I got a headache trying to follow you through to the end.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Being a billionaire is excess. Anyone who earns that luxury deserves that luxury, but there is such a thing as misusing your fortune. As a billionaire, you can set up both yourself and your family for life and still have a shit load left over.

Why not put it to good use? Cancer research, diabetes, boys and girls program, take your pick. To me it is just WRONG to squander something that can do so much good.

Why don't you quit telling people what to do with their money, Billy? If I want to give to charity, I will, but not under orders.

What drives you to think compassion is obligatory?

I don't even consider it a matter of compassion. Compassion would denote sacrifice. Billionaires are not sacrificing much by giving to charity. This is a matter of responsibility in my opinion.

Contrary to what you conservatives like to believe, billionaires don't become billionaires without help. Give back to what society has helped you build.

I am not even setting a standard on this. I'm not suggesting a percentage. Just give something substantial. Something that would make a difference.

Compassion and sacrifice have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I don't even consider it a matter of compassion. Compassion would denote sacrifice. Billionaires are not sacrificing much by giving to charity. This is a matter of responsibility in my opinion.

Contrary to what you conservatives like to believe, billionaires don't become billionaires without help. Give back to what society has helped you build.

I am not even setting a standard on this. I'm not suggesting a percentage. Just give something substantial. Something that would make a difference.

You are requiring people sacrifice, all for the sake of charity. Thing is, it's their sacrifice to make. You're wrong. Billionaires will give an amount they feel comfortable giving. You don't get to decide how how much.

Yes, you liberals think giving is a duty, a "responsibility." No need to repeat yourself, you've confirmed it for me. This leads me to ask, have you ever given your own money to charity?

I just said that i am not setting a standard. I am not saying giving in general is a responsibility. I said it is a responsibility for billionaires to give.

Yes, I have given.

It is not a responsibility for anyone to give.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure. See the subject of my last post.

Another example: see Warren Buffet, who gave that subject's foundation a billion and a half. Obviously if they needed or wanted that money for some other purpose, it would not have gone into that foundation.

When I get to the point of excess money myself, I'll let you know.

The money Buffet gave served a purpose, it wasn't useless.

You failed.

Try again!

No, you failed, because that ain't what I said. Take a reading course. The only "useless" invocation above is yours.

I said it was "excess", that which is over and above what can be used.
If it's over and above what can be used, and it's not used, then it would be useless.

If it can't be used, then it's useless. what you're really complaining about is whether it's used for the purpose you want it used for rather than the purposes of the person who has the money.

If I don't $10 billion to charity, that doesn't mean the money was "useless" to me, or "excess." It means I used it for the purpose I deemed to be a priority, rather than the purpose favored by some government welfare hack.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I just said that i am not setting a standard. I am not saying giving in general is a responsibility. I said it is a responsibility for billionaires to give.

Yes, I have given.

Stop.

No. IT IS NOT a responsibility. Why is it just billionaires? If you had said 'everyone', I would have given you a wider berth, but here you are. Responsibility equates with obligation, obligation equates with duty. So therefore, you are obligating them to give.

"It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness. People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed and sheltered. If we're compassionate, we'll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint."

-Penn Jillette

Yes, obviously I am singling out billionaires when it comes to responsibility. It is a matter of excess. Do you notice I am not including millionaires in this topic?

What excess? Do you understand that it is possible to be a billionaire and not actually have any cash available?

 

[bripat9643]

I just said that i am not setting a standard. I am not saying giving in general is a responsibility. I said it is a responsibility for billionaires to give.

Yes, I have given.

Really? Where's the evidence for that claim? How does having money impose any obligations on me whatsoever?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Yes, obviously I am singling out billionaires when it comes to responsibility. It is a matter of excess. Do you notice I am not including millionaires in this topic?

Uh yeah, because the richer they are, the more they can give, right? Please stop. You are not making your point well.

Um if i am not making my point well why do you understand it?

Um, you are not making your point at all because your point is a delusion.

You also cannot read.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

...to charitable causes?

I am not suggesting that we come up with laws that requires billionaires to give to charity, but I do think billionaires have a responsibility to use part of their fortune to better mankind.

I have a lot of respect for billionaires like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who plan to give half their fortune to charity after they die. To me, that is the right thing to do.

In your opinion, how much should a billionaire give while they are still alive? Throw out a percentage.

How much money should a person give if they are worth 1 billion? 5 billion?

You respect Bill and Melinda Gates? For what?!!! Do tell!

Because they figured out how to avoid excess taxes.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, obviously I am singling out billionaires when it comes to responsibility. It is a matter of excess. Do you notice I am not including millionaires in this topic?

How did you determine some arbitrary amount of money is "excess?" where's the equation that determines that?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Of course there is. Once you've bought/invested all you could ever need, anything left over is "excess". Something you have no use for is what we call "useless".

Of course, that's still an individual call. But it certainly exists.

How much useless money have you had in your lifetime?

How is this thread about me?

Because it is about your opinion that the OP is a genius?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Sure. See the subject of my last post.

Another example: see Warren Buffet, who gave that subject's foundation a billion and a half. Obviously if they needed or wanted that money for some other purpose, it would not have gone into that foundation.

When I get to the point of excess money myself, I'll let you know.

The money Buffet gave served a purpose, it wasn't useless.

You failed.

Try again!

No, you failed, because that ain't what I said. Take a reading course. The only "useless" invocation above is yours.

I said it was "excess", that which is over and above what can be used.
If it's over and above what can be used, and it's not used, then it would be useless.

I know what you said and I'm saying if the money served a purpose then it wasn't excess money you moron!

Fact is you stupid little fuck the money was used!! He used the money to donate to your made up subject's foundation.

 

[bripat9643]

The money Buffet gave served a purpose, it wasn't useless.

You failed.

Try again!

No, you failed, because that ain't what I said. Take a reading course. The only "useless" invocation above is yours.

I said it was "excess", that which is over and above what can be used.
If it's over and above what can be used, and it's not used, then it would be useless.

I know what you said and I'm saying if the money served a purpose then it wasn't excess money you moron!

Fact is you stupid little fuck the money was used!! He used the money to donate to your made up subject's foundation.

Liberal Dictionary:
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excess money - any money you have that liberals want

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Sure. See the subject of my last post.

Another example: see Warren Buffet, who gave that subject's foundation a billion and a half. Obviously if they needed or wanted that money for some other purpose, it would not have gone into that foundation.

When I get to the point of excess money myself, I'll let you know.

The money Buffet gave served a purpose, it wasn't useless.

You failed.

Try again!

No, you failed, because that ain't what I said. Take a reading course. The only "useless" invocation above is yours.

I said it was "excess", that which is over and above what can be used.
If it's over and above what can be used, and it's not used, then it would be useless.

All money can be used, therefore no amount of money is excess.