Cop In Chicago Shot Negro. Was It Murder?

[Moonglow]

A negro? Like you are trying to reduce a man's humanity?

Why do you think negros hate it so much when a White person calls them a nig-ger. (even though it's ok for negros to use the term) It's because compared to White people, they don't have any humanity. Show me a negro populated and run country anywhere in the world that is worth a damn. Despite the "monkey see, monkey do" example set for them by developed countries.

Before or after white folks colonization?

Right now. Under whatever circumstances there are.

Zambia has done pretty well, considering after throwing off colonization there was no natives that knew how to run a govt...

There are probably still people in Zambia living in grass huts like their ancestors did. Hell. There are places in Africa where cannibalism still happens. As well as slavery of course.

I know of US citizens that live in shot gun shacks, and slavery in the US is not dead...

 

[freemind]

The answer to the question is easily answered. Shoot three more times.
The answer is still. NO

If you are saying that it wasn't murder, then I agree with you.

 

[freemind]

What sort of hallucinogenics would I need to take to follow your "thought" process? Are any of those legal?

In what way do you think I'm hallucinating.

 

[Anathema]

You can't expect perfect judgment or behavior when in an imperfect situation. The negro made it an imperfect situation. Not the cop.

What I expect is irrelevant. The Law expects a CCW abd a LEO to be in control of their faculties and able to judge when an act stops being Defensive and becomes Offensive.

The Race and/or mental state of the suspect are irrelevant. He was not in an offensive position and the officer was WRONG to fire.

 

[freemind]

Why do you think negros hate it so much when a White person calls them a nig-ger. (even though it's ok for negros to use the term) It's because compared to White people, they don't have any humanity. Show me a negro populated and run country anywhere in the world that is worth a damn. Despite the "monkey see, monkey do" example set for them by developed countries.

Before or after white folks colonization?

Right now. Under whatever circumstances there are.

Zambia has done pretty well, considering after throwing off colonization there was no natives that knew how to run a govt...

There are probably still people in Zambia living in grass huts like their ancestors did. Hell. There are places in Africa where cannibalism still happens. As well as slavery of course.

I know of US citizens that live in shot gun shacks, and slavery in the US is not dead...

Even a shotgun "shack" is a far more advanced dwelling than a grass hut. Also, of course slavery isn't dead here. Most people in this country are slaves in one way or another.

 

[freemind]

You can't expect perfect judgment or behavior when in an imperfect situation. The negro made it an imperfect situation. Not the cop.

What I expect is irrelevant. The Law expects a CCW abd a LEO to be in control of their faculties and able to judge when an act stops being Defensive and becomes Offensive.

The Race and/or mental state of the suspect are irrelevant. He was not in an offensive position and the officer was WRONG to fire.

Some say the best defence is a good offence. That aside, the cop was RIGHT to fire.

 

[Anathema]

Some say the best defence is a good offence. That aside, the cop was RIGHT to fire.

Under modern America jurisprudence, it doesn't work that way. Especially for LEOs.

Who was that man immeduately and directly threatening with his knife? Nobody was even within arms length of him and the officer hadn't been on scrne long enough to determine anything.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You may have seen the thing on the news yesterday where a cop in Chicago was charged with shooting down a negro about a year ago. Was it murder? Well the negro had a knife. Before the cop who shot him showed up, there were other police around. No doubt there had been many calls by the police there for the negro to drop the knife. Which the negro obviously ignored. Well when the other cop showed up and blasted him, the negro didn't ignore that. That wasn't murder. That was a cop in a virtual war zone taking out the trash. Besides, maybe the negro was just trying to commit suicide by cop. Or maybe it thought that if it survived, it could sue the city for a shitload of money because of excessive force. Just as many other negros do when they fail to obey lawful orders. What do you think.

A negro? Like you are trying to reduce a man's humanity?

Why is it you equate being a negro with being less than human? You should get some help for your irrational, racist bigotry.

Somebody started a thread at this forum called, "Is racism bad? Tell me why." Find it and leave a reply. If I see it come up, I will reply to you. Though for now I can tell you that it is your brainwashed bigotry against bigotry that is irrational. Even babies have been shown to be "bigoted." It is you who heeds the help. Infortunately the best person to help you, who wrote the thread I mentioned, was banned. But I will take up the gauntlet. If you dare.

I'm being criticized for not being racist enough?

 

[freemind]

Some say the best defence is a good offence. That aside, the cop was RIGHT to fire.

Under modern America jurisprudence, it doesn't work that way. Especially for LEOs.

Who was that man immeduately and directly threatening with his knife? Nobody was even within arms length of him and the officer hadn't been on scrne long enough to determine anything.

If you are going to tell me what many other people are saying, which is that he shot only because he was a "racist," I'm not buying it.

 

[Anathema]

If you are going to tell me what many other people are saying, which is that he shot only because he was a "racist," I'm not buying it.

No. I think he was simply an overly enthusiastic, trigger happy moron who showed up on the scene and had decided what was going to happen before he got there.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

If you are going to tell me what many other people are saying, which is that he shot only because he was a "racist," I'm not buying it.

No. I think he was simply an overly enthusiastic, trigger happy moron who showed up on the scene and had decided what was going to happen before he got there.

Why do you Leftists never have an actual victim of police abuse? All your "victims" are either resisting arrest, brandishing weapons, or trying to wrest a cop's gun away. You twits come back to me when you actually find someone shot by cops who didn't have it coming and then we'll talk.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

hey Freemind , I think that you are kinda crazy !! Sounds like you have no real argument and are just emotional . You just don't like black people is my guess .

White people and non-white people need to be separated. Next, in a world of crazy people, it is the sane ones who are viewed as crazy. Also, I have given many real arguements. I think you're just to crazy to see them. Next, you're right. I don't like members of the species-sub species Homo africanus. Neither do I like mexicans-latinos, muslims, Jews or orientals.

. If you don't mind revealing, do you belong to an organization that promotes that? Are you a skinhead, for example, or do you hold these opinions privately?

 

[JimBowie1958]

White people and non-white people need to be separated. Next, in a world of crazy people, it is the sane ones who are viewed as crazy. Also, I have given many real arguements. I think you're just to crazy to see them. Next, you're right. I don't like members of the species-sub species Homo africanus. Neither do I like mexicans-latinos, muslims, Jews or orientals.

Too bad, you were making a lot of sense earlier.

The government has no right to impose segregation nor to force segregation on anyone, IMO, but that is not what you seem to be advocating at all.

 

[Jackson]

You may have seen the thing on the news yesterday where a cop in Chicago was charged with shooting down a negro about a year ago. Was it murder? Well the negro had a knife. Before the cop who shot him showed up, there were other police around. No doubt there had been many calls by the police there for the negro to drop the knife. Which the negro obviously ignored. Well when the other cop showed up and blasted him, the negro didn't ignore that. That wasn't murder. That was a cop in a virtual war zone taking out the trash. Besides, maybe the negro was just trying to commit suicide by cop. Or maybe it thought that if it survived, it could sue the city for a shitload of money because of excessive force. Just as many other negros do when they fail to obey lawful orders. What do you think.

Murder one

 

[Jackson]

A 3" knife is not a weapon when its more than 20 feet away.

Indeed, going up against cop armed with a gun and a taser means the 3" knife was no weapon at all.

There were no calls for the kid to put the 3" knife down. There are no laws against a kid having a 3" knife.

It was an execution. Cop pulled up and within 30 seconds, started shooting. He could have shot him once. While that would have been way too much force under those circumstances, it certainly shows just how whacked that cop is.

The cop is supposedly trained. As such, its obvious he had no control over the situation - a kid dancing in the street, and even less control over himself.

The cop murdered a kid for jay walking.

He deserves the death penalty though I don't know if Illinois has it.

You don't know if there was a call for him to stop. Even if he did, he didn't have to pump 15 more shots once he was down and not a threat. Murder One is the right call.

 

[Jackson]

I think it was a reasonable shooting. Does anyone really want that hoodlum walking the street high on PCP and wielding a knife? Honestly, that cop did us all a favor.

Reasonable Shooting??? He was not a threat to anyone after the first shot!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

A 3" knife is not a weapon when its more than 20 feet away.

Indeed, going up against cop armed with a gun and a taser means the 3" knife was no weapon at all.

There were no calls for the kid to put the 3" knife down. There are no laws against a kid having a 3" knife.

It was an execution. Cop pulled up and within 30 seconds, started shooting. He could have shot him once. While that would have been way too much force under those circumstances, it certainly shows just how whacked that cop is.

The cop is supposedly trained. As such, its obvious he had no control over the situation - a kid dancing in the street, and even less control over himself.

The cop murdered a kid for jay walking.

He deserves the death penalty though I don't know if Illinois has it.

You don't know if there was a call for him to stop. Even if he did, he didn't have to pump 15 more shots once he was down and not a threat. Murder One is the right call.

The DA has an uphill battle trying to prove intent. This seems to be a pattern, over charging cops in hopes of a complete acquital.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I think it was a reasonable shooting. Does anyone really want that hoodlum walking the street high on PCP and wielding a knife? Honestly, that cop did us all a favor.

Reasonable Shooting??? He was not a threat to anyone after the first shot!

Really? How many Westerns have you been watching lately? It seems you think people die immediately after being shot.

 

[Jackson]

A 3" knife is not a weapon when its more than 20 feet away.

Indeed, going up against cop armed with a gun and a taser means the 3" knife was no weapon at all.

There were no calls for the kid to put the 3" knife down. There are no laws against a kid having a 3" knife.

It was an execution. Cop pulled up and within 30 seconds, started shooting. He could have shot him once. While that would have been way too much force under those circumstances, it certainly shows just how whacked that cop is.

The cop is supposedly trained. As such, its obvious he had no control over the situation - a kid dancing in the street, and even less control over himself.

The cop murdered a kid for jay walking.

He deserves the death penalty though I don't know if Illinois has it.

You don't know if there was a call for him to stop. Even if he did, he didn't have to pump 15 more shots once he was down and not a threat. Murder One is the right call.

The DA has an uphill battle trying to prove intent. This seems to be a pattern, over charging cops in hopes of a complete acquital.

Good point. but I think he'll get the jury to agree. If it was a matter of a couple of shots, maybe some doubt. Sixteen shots? Nah, I think he's going down. Can you imagine the rioting in Chicago if he is found not guilty?

 

[Jackson]

The cop knows he wouldn't survive prison if he is in the general population. I can see him taking his own life.