Cops: We are leaving

[sealybobo]

...Oh, and like in 5 years no one has died on our lake because someone was drunk. The cop said, "I don't care if you have a beer in your hand just don't be drunk"

Is that how you want the laws enforced on drinking and driving on the highways? How fucking stupid is that?

You wouldn’t understand you don’t have a boat and you’re a square. I’m high on it too. Boat not a car.

Then you should go to jail before your irresponsible behavior harms another boater.

Funny that he seems to think driving a boat impaired is somehow okay.

What an asinine position to hold.

It's the same "oh, isn't it a lark!" bullshit attitude that a lot of people used to take to drunk driving on the highways 40 or 50 years ago. How many people, how many families, were killed because of such fucking assholes? Unfortunately, it is also the attitude that many people who come here from countries 40-50 years behind in cultural development bring with them. No excuse for someone born and raised here to be so fucking stupid and irresponsible.

You’ve never lived on a lake you ignorant little man

I've never lived in Utah either, but I know the law applies there, stupid.

I live on a lake. Private property private lake.

you should also don’t know people in gated communities drive golf carts drunk. You wouldn’t know because they have cops who will pull you over because you don’t belong clearly by how you are dressed and the car you drive which is?

If you live on a private lake why are cops out in boats?

We asked them to be there. Just don't torment us and give buzzed drivers DUI's. I bet they could give 100 DUI's on any given Saturday.

Oh and I like Ray from Cleveland's comment yesterday. Cops catch a lot of criminals by pulling people over for bullshit. Really? Fuck that Ray. How about we have checkpoints like in Palestine? So any criminals will be caught if they are out on the road. Or how about stop and frisk? Ray is right. We need more of a police state. LOL

We already do have checkpoints like that, they're called DUI checkpoints or Border patrol checkpoints.

You didn't think those were actually about drunk drivers or illegal aliens, did you?

We don’t have dui checkpoints here in Michigan and border patrol is watching the border. Do you object to border patrol?

But in a way I agree. If we are free we should be able to freely travel to mexico and Canada but we aren’t.

 

[sealybobo]

...Oh, and like in 5 years no one has died on our lake because someone was drunk. The cop said, "I don't care if you have a beer in your hand just don't be drunk"

Is that how you want the laws enforced on drinking and driving on the highways? How fucking stupid is that?

You wouldn’t understand you don’t have a boat and you’re a square. I’m high on it too. Boat not a car.

Then you should go to jail before your irresponsible behavior harms another boater.

Funny that he seems to think driving a boat impaired is somehow okay.

What an asinine position to hold.

It's the same "oh, isn't it a lark!" bullshit attitude that a lot of people used to take to drunk driving on the highways 40 or 50 years ago. How many people, how many families, were killed because of such fucking assholes? Unfortunately, it is also the attitude that many people who come here from countries 40-50 years behind in cultural development bring with them. No excuse for someone born and raised here to be so fucking stupid and irresponsible.

You’ve never lived on a lake you ignorant little man

I've never lived in Utah either, but I know the law applies there, stupid.

I live on a lake. Private property private lake.

you should also don’t know people in gated communities drive golf carts drunk. You wouldn’t know because they have cops who will pull you over because you don’t belong clearly by how you are dressed and the car you drive which is?

If you live on a private lake why are cops out in boats?

We asked them to be there. Just don't torment us and give buzzed drivers DUI's. I bet they could give 100 DUI's on any given Saturday.

Oh and I like Ray from Cleveland's comment yesterday. Cops catch a lot of criminals by pulling people over for bullshit. Really? Fuck that Ray. How about we have checkpoints like in Palestine? So any criminals will be caught if they are out on the road. Or how about stop and frisk? Ray is right. We need more of a police state. LOL

The problem with your argument is that stop and frisk actually worked. It saved many black lives that would have otherwise been lost. If you don't break any laws on the road, you don't have to worry about getting pulled over. Outside of my job as a truck driver for random inspections, I haven't been pulled over by a cop in over 20 years in my car. How did I accomplish that? Not by being white. I accomplished that by obeying the laws on the road.

Do you hear yourself? That’s such an old bad argument. If you’re innocent you have nothing to worry about? Wow.

 

[sealybobo]

... I, and a lot of other men like me, will happily start killing people to ensure we don't......... ever.

Oh great, another internet Rambo.

Aren’t you a tough guy former college wrestler? Pot meet kettle

 

[Unkotare]

...
That’s what I thought last night after I thought about what ray said. So he wants to live in a police state. He’s willing to give up his freedom for security

Your 'right' to be an irresponsible, POS drunk driver? BS.

 

[sealybobo]

So. What?

Let those thugs with badges go. They were doing more harm than good anyway.

We'll replace them with intelligent and decent law enforcement professionals.

Just like that? Do you really think it's that simple? Is it that simple when people say things like "just kill those fucking animals burning the cities down"? Simplify, dehumanize, dismiss? Is any real progress on anything going to be made with this kind of thinking on any side?

What he said isn’t anything close to what you just said.

And yes, it will be simple to replace them.

And I’d like to replace every cop that retires with a black person. Maybe they will treat us citizens with respect and know how to defuse situations better than the old cops we have now who are burned out.

 

[ding]

If we are free we should be able to freely travel to mexico and Canada but we aren’t.

So by your logic and narrow test, you aren't free?

 

[sealybobo]

If we are free we should be able to freely travel to mexico and Canada but we aren’t.

So by your logic and narrow test, you aren't free?

Not really. as Free as they let us be.

 

[ding]

If we are free we should be able to freely travel to mexico and Canada but we aren’t.

So by your logic and narrow test, you aren't free?

Not really. as Free as they let us be.

Have you ever been stopped from crossing the border?

 

[ding]

I rest my case

 

[Unkotare]

... I, and a lot of other men like me, will happily start killing people to ensure we don't......... ever.

Oh great, another internet Rambo.

Aren’t you a tough guy former college wrestler? Pot meet kettle

I didn't say anything about killing people, did I dumbass?

 

[Unkotare]

If we are free we should be able to freely travel to mexico and Canada but we aren’t.

So by your logic and narrow test, you aren't free?

Not really. as Free as they let us be.

Have you ever been stopped from crossing the border?

He should really be encouraged to cross and then stay out.

 

[Unkotare]

...Oh, and like in 5 years no one has died on our lake because someone was drunk. The cop said, "I don't care if you have a beer in your hand just don't be drunk"

Is that how you want the laws enforced on drinking and driving on the highways? How fucking stupid is that?

You wouldn’t understand you don’t have a boat and you’re a square. I’m high on it too. Boat not a car.

Then you should go to jail before your irresponsible behavior harms another boater.

Funny that he seems to think driving a boat impaired is somehow okay.

What an asinine position to hold.

It's the same "oh, isn't it a lark!" bullshit attitude that a lot of people used to take to drunk driving on the highways 40 or 50 years ago. How many people, how many families, were killed because of such fucking assholes? Unfortunately, it is also the attitude that many people who come here from countries 40-50 years behind in cultural development bring with them. No excuse for someone born and raised here to be so fucking stupid and irresponsible.

You’ve never lived on a lake you ignorant little man

I've never lived in Utah either, but I know the law applies there, stupid.

I live on a lake. Private property private lake.

you should also don’t know people in gated communities drive golf carts drunk. You wouldn’t know because they have cops who will pull you over because you don’t belong clearly by how you are dressed and the car you drive which is?

If you live on a private lake why are cops out in boats?

We asked them to be there. Just don't torment us and give buzzed drivers DUI's. I bet they could give 100 DUI's on any given Saturday.

Oh and I like Ray from Cleveland's comment yesterday. Cops catch a lot of criminals by pulling people over for bullshit. Really? Fuck that Ray. How about we have checkpoints like in Palestine? So any criminals will be caught if they are out on the road. Or how about stop and frisk? Ray is right. We need more of a police state. LOL

The problem with your argument is that stop and frisk actually worked. It saved many black lives that would have otherwise been lost. If you don't break any laws on the road, you don't have to worry about getting pulled over. Outside of my job as a truck driver for random inspections, I haven't been pulled over by a cop in over 20 years in my car. How did I accomplish that? Not by being white. I accomplished that by obeying the laws on the road.

yea ray just suspending the bill of rights would reduce the crime rate....

We can be like the Japanese?

Stop it
...

Huh?

 

[ding]

He might as well be arguing that he isn't free because he has to wait in traffic; or in a checkout line; or has to pay for his groceries; or get a license to drive.

 

[Unkotare]

...I can almost take my thumbs and middle fingers and wrap them around the small of my girlfriends waste [sic]. ...

Before you inflate her, of course. Be sure and dispose of the "waste" properly.

 

[Unkotare]

...The proof is in but the verdict isn’t yet

You don't want the enforcement of drunk driving laws, but you want to convict people before a trial. That makes about as much sense as anything you post here.

 

[Godboy]

Super article:

America, We Are Leaving

This is the hardest thing I have written. I grew up in a law enforcement family. My father worked his

www.lawofficer.com

The mentally ill used to get treatment and now they just send cops. Kids used to be taught respect and now it’s cool to be disrespectful.

Supervisors used to back you when you were right but now they accuse you of being wrong in order to appease crazy people.

Parents used to get mad at their kids for getting arrested and now they get mad at us.

The media used to highlight the positive contribution our profession gave to society and now they either ignore it or twist the truth for controversy to line their own pockets.

*********************************

Great article.

We are throwing away a great asset.

Because of a bunch of ignorant assholes.

While I don't think policing in concept is something we should get rid of

Our police are out of control, and so are their unions

They need to learn some harsh lessons this will be good for them not bad for them.

They treat citizens worse than our soldiers treated Iraqis on average.

O.K.

Show us your metrics for making that determination.

Put up the numbers.

Let's see the metrics and the standards.

They're called rules of engagement

You can google the militaries code, it's complicated. Not something i'm expert enough to comment on

For domestic police it's simple. Do you feel scared for your own personal safety/ Open fire

There are no fuckign rules of engagement beyond protect thyself

I asked for metrics.

You ever hear of a bell curve ? What does it tell you about police.

Let's see your numbers that show 10% or 20% of all cops are bad.

Let's see your numbers that show that 10% or 20% of all engagements end like George Floyd.

Cause if you are out at 3 sigma and are still making statements like yours......forget it.

You don't have a case.

Yea let me pull analogous metrics from our domestic situation (which we have no good national policing data anyway)

And compare it to a warzone

You're a dumbass, shut teh fuck up

"there are no bad pigs"

Says teh old white man...lol. What teh fuck do you know about police/ And 40% domestic violence rate says you know a lot of bad pigs they just treat you fine.

Shut the fuck up retard. Anyone with sense understands this. We do not put the same burdens on cops as we do people in fucking warzones full of foreigners.

Enough said

Where are the numbers to support your claim?

 

[ding]

I hate fat old and ugly women.

Most people who are that shallow and superficial are smart enough to keep it to themselves.

 

[Unkotare]

...And yes, it will be simple to replace them.

And I’d like to replace every cop that retires with a black person. Maybe they will treat us citizens with respect and know how to defuse situations better than the old cops we have now who are burned out.

Typical racist democrat stupidity, right there ^^^.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Super article:

America, We Are Leaving

This is the hardest thing I have written. I grew up in a law enforcement family. My father worked his

www.lawofficer.com

The mentally ill used to get treatment and now they just send cops. Kids used to be taught respect and now it’s cool to be disrespectful.

Supervisors used to back you when you were right but now they accuse you of being wrong in order to appease crazy people.

Parents used to get mad at their kids for getting arrested and now they get mad at us.

The media used to highlight the positive contribution our profession gave to society and now they either ignore it or twist the truth for controversy to line their own pockets.

*********************************

Great article.

We are throwing away a great asset.

Because of a bunch of ignorant assholes.

While I don't think policing in concept is something we should get rid of

Our police are out of control, and so are their unions

They need to learn some harsh lessons this will be good for them not bad for them.

They treat citizens worse than our soldiers treated Iraqis on average.

And of course Meathead disagreed with you on this. You are correct. Conservatives are stubborn fucks. Until it happens to them of course.

Please do us a favor and go fuck yourself.

Fuck cops. Republicans are so obvious. They want to make this about if you are pro cop or against cops. Well, I'm against cops. At least the current state of the police force. They can't and won't reform themselves. It has to be done from the outside. Remember, they work for us. I'm not against cops. I'm against bad cops. And if you are black, you fear cops. Fuck that. Things have to change.

Let me say it again, fuck cops. They work for us so they do what they are told. They want to quit? Fine! We will find lots of blacks, muslims, latino's who are looking for that kind of salary.

If white cops are racist and can't understand their bias, they need to go.

We need good cops not just bodies. If these meatheads can't get it they need to go. They are public servants. Tax payers pay their salary. If you want you can get a private police force to police your neighbood. Privatize that shit.

Just like I wasn't against the troops I was against the war they were fighting. If the soldiers weren't fighting a war we were lied into I wouldn't be against the troops. And because of my patriotism I am still for MY troops to be successful. I just want to pull them out of that bad situation. Today our police have become militarized and we need to rethink some shit.

Let me give you a great example of how this has happened in the past. There was a time a cop could shoot at a car it was chasing. I believe that is illegal now. At least it is in Michigan. See? We needed to stop cops from being out of control before and we're going to do it again. The ones who can't help but be violoent bullies need to go be bouncers and bodyguards in the private sector.

Most cops are good cops.

Nobody has produced the numbers to justify the bullshit that is going on right now.

Nobody has to justify anything for you pale recessives.

Because you can't.

You just say it's that way...and expect everyone to believe your crap.

You are full of shit and have been from the start.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

...Oh, and like in 5 years no one has died on our lake because someone was drunk. The cop said, "I don't care if you have a beer in your hand just don't be drunk"

Is that how you want the laws enforced on drinking and driving on the highways? How fucking stupid is that?

You wouldn’t understand you don’t have a boat and you’re a square. I’m high on it too. Boat not a car.

Then you should go to jail before your irresponsible behavior harms another boater.

Funny that he seems to think driving a boat impaired is somehow okay.

What an asinine position to hold.

It's the same "oh, isn't it a lark!" bullshit attitude that a lot of people used to take to drunk driving on the highways 40 or 50 years ago. How many people, how many families, were killed because of such fucking assholes? Unfortunately, it is also the attitude that many people who come here from countries 40-50 years behind in cultural development bring with them. No excuse for someone born and raised here to be so fucking stupid and irresponsible.

You’ve never lived on a lake you ignorant little man

I've never lived in Utah either, but I know the law applies there, stupid.

I live on a lake. Private property private lake.

you should also don’t know people in gated communities drive golf carts drunk. You wouldn’t know because they have cops who will pull you over because you don’t belong clearly by how you are dressed and the car you drive which is?

If you live on a private lake why are cops out in boats?

We asked them to be there. Just don't torment us and give buzzed drivers DUI's. I bet they could give 100 DUI's on any given Saturday.

Oh and I like Ray from Cleveland's comment yesterday. Cops catch a lot of criminals by pulling people over for bullshit. Really? Fuck that Ray. How about we have checkpoints like in Palestine? So any criminals will be caught if they are out on the road. Or how about stop and frisk? Ray is right. We need more of a police state. LOL

The problem with your argument is that stop and frisk actually worked. It saved many black lives that would have otherwise been lost. If you don't break any laws on the road, you don't have to worry about getting pulled over. Outside of my job as a truck driver for random inspections, I haven't been pulled over by a cop in over 20 years in my car. How did I accomplish that? Not by being white. I accomplished that by obeying the laws on the road.

We could catch a lot of criminals if everyone was forced to undergo mandatory lie detector testing every quarter as well, but we don't live in a country like that and I, and a lot of other men like me, will happily start killing people to ensure we don't......... ever.

You're going to compare getting pulled over for traffic violations to lie detector tests? Seriously?

Cops often pull people over for bullshit and even when they do have an actual violation to justify the stop, they don't limit their interest to just writing the ticket, they go fishing..... and that pisses people off.

If there are specific articulable facts in evidence that justify further action, then proceed.... if not, write the ticket and fuck off.

In my lifetime, I've been pulled over A LOT. A bad habit of having a lead foot (also, your occasional routine traffic violation). In all those times, the first thing I do after pulling over, is grab my license and registration, stick them out the window and keep my hands where they can see them.
The next thing I do is answer any and all questions honestly. If the cop wants to look in my car, he/she is more than welcome to. I don't do drugs, so there are none to find and I don't murder people, so there are not bodies to find. If it's a matter of a dead brake or head light, I agree to get them fixed and do so at the earliest opportunity.
Cops have been known to pull over people that are driving just under the speed limit in areas known to be drug trafficking locations, just to check. If the refuses to allow the cop to check out the interior of the car, that sends alarm bells to the cop. After all, if you've got nothing illegal in the car, you've got nothing to hide. So, the cop calls for a drug-sniffing K-9 unit.....and.....lo and behold.....drugs are generally the reason.
Moral to the story: Carrying and using illegal drugs is a CRIME! Don't get all angry when caught transporting, selling, or using them, after all, that was the risk you considered acceptable, or you wouldn't do it.
I've always found that being pleasant, answering all their questions honestly and being totally cooperative, lets me go on my way and they haven't had another stressor added to their day....and yeah....I'll most likely have a ticket to pay, but hey! The tickets are my fault anyway. Just as having illegal drugs in a car is the criminal's fault and he or she should just shrug and accept that, that is part and parcel of the game.

I can't tell you how many times I've gotten warnings when they would have been O.K. to give me a ticket.

When I was a teenager, I got pulled over. I thought it was the end of the world.

The police officer was very kind and patient. I got a warning.