Could you study Martial Arts three nights a week and not be able to defend yourself?

[Skull Pilot]

So can you really study Martial Arts three nights a week and the only thing you learned is "I've fallen and I can't get up"?

Yeah, I think so.

There are plenty of strip mall martial arts studios that aren't really teaching much of anything useful, you walk by and see 11 year old girls wearing black belts. How long had he been Zimmerman been taking it? A month? Three months?

I don't know if he's innocent or guilty, but I sure as hell wouldn't take the fact someone is taking martial arts lessons as some verifiable proof that he can't get his ass kicked. Anything can happen in a fight.

Three nights a week and he's too fucking stupid to know he isn't learning anything? A man that old?

FAIL!

Try again.

You have no idea what this so called training involved do you?

As Someone who has studied in various martial arts (boxing, taekwondo, Bando, Krav Maga) I can say that merely taking some lessons and doing drills does not guarantee one can fight.

Unless you spar and compete (formally or informally) on a regular basis you might as well be taking Zumba.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Republicans can't see past his skin color

this coming from a guy who says this in 90% of his posts....." Republicans are 90% white"....oh shit ....look he said it in this one too.....

They are. Look at how many white wingers complained that 90% of blacks voted for Obama. You can bet that 100% of the 90% who are Republican voted white.

Republicans can't see past his skin color

and YOU Dean.....cant see past their skin color.....sounds like you are the same kind of people...

 

[euroman88]

I grew up near Compton jumped numerous times,in a street fight the first big punch usually wins you go down your in a world of hurt, George is corpulent and non athletic, Martin was under the influence of Black violent subculture, little doubt what happened TM jumped him ghetto style. Many in the hood grow up hating whitey, hating latins hating Asians, If they get annoyed they think they have the right to assault you.

 

[rdean]

I grew up near Compton jumped numerous times,in a street fight the first big punch usually wins you go down your in a world of hurt, George is corpulent and non athletic, Martin was under the influence of Black violent subculture, little doubt what happened TM jumped him ghetto style. Many in the hood grow up hating whitey, hating latins hating Asians, If they get annoyed they think they have the right to assault you.

Oh, I get it. His "black" subculture. I guess that makes it OK. Being chased down by Zimmerman and all.

 

[rdean]

Yeah, I think so.

There are plenty of strip mall martial arts studios that aren't really teaching much of anything useful, you walk by and see 11 year old girls wearing black belts. How long had he been Zimmerman been taking it? A month? Three months?

I don't know if he's innocent or guilty, but I sure as hell wouldn't take the fact someone is taking martial arts lessons as some verifiable proof that he can't get his ass kicked. Anything can happen in a fight.

Three nights a week and he's too fucking stupid to know he isn't learning anything? A man that old?

FAIL!

Try again.

You have no idea what this so called training involved do you?

As Someone who has studied in various martial arts (boxing, taekwondo, Bando, Krav Maga) I can say that merely taking some lessons and doing drills does not guarantee one can fight.

Unless you spar and compete (formally or informally) on a regular basis you might as well be taking Zumba.

I know if you go to class for two years and don't know that you didn't learn anything, then you're a moron.

 

[SteadyMercury]

Who said that? Oh, wait, no one did. You just pulled it out of your ass.

Sure you did. You are using the fact he took martial arts classes to cast doubt on whether he could have been losing a fight.

It was an incredibly naive outlook, and it is quite amusing to watch you trying to defend it and looking more stupid as the thread goes on.

 

[Mad Scientist]

There are plenty of strip mall martial arts studios that aren't really teaching much of anything useful, you walk by and see 11 year old girls wearing black belts. How long had he been Zimmerman been taking it? A month? Three months?

It was widely known that you could get your Black Belt from a local place during your one year tour in Korea. Just show up, pay the dues and you'll have one too.

 

[hortysir]

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/new...n/2013/6/28/zimmerman_opening_statements.htmlCould you study Martial Arts three nights a week and not be able to defend yourself?

You average 23 posts per day and still can't enunciate a rational thought, so.......

 

[rdean]

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/new...n/2013/6/28/zimmerman_opening_statements.htmlCould you study Martial Arts three nights a week and not be able to defend yourself?

You average 23 posts per day and still can't enunciate a rational thought, so.......

Well, could you?

 

[rdean]

They are. Look at how many white wingers complained that 90% of blacks voted for Obama. You can bet that 100% of the 90% who are Republican voted white.

Republicans can't see past his skin color

and YOU Dean.....cant see past their skin color.....sounds like you are the same kind of people...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Witness describes Zimmerman's injuries, phone call to wife | Fox News

The final witness for the day was Lindzee Folgate, a physician's assistant who examined Zimmeman on the day after the shooting. She said that Zimmerman was taking MMA (mixed martial arts) lessons three days a week and that when she suggested that he see a psychologist, he mentioned that he was already seeing one.

I was reading Fox News and came across this interesting bit of news.

This is where Zimmerman said Martin had "jumped out from behind bushes".



George Zimmerman making a "gang sign".



And look, this is a BIG guy studying martial arts and he was getting torn up by a super skinny 17 year old? Good thing he was able to remove the "safety" off the gun. Unless it was already off? Why else chase someone with a gun if you don't intend to use it?



Looks like murder is a REALLY good way to lose weight.





So can you really study Martial Arts three nights a week and the only thing you learned is "I've fallen and I can't get up"?

De la Rionda asks about Zimmerman seeing a psychologist. She says he was already established with a psychologist.
De la Rionda asks about the MMA exercise.
O’Mara objects to being outside the scope.
The attorneys approach for a side bar.

She says she also suggested him seeing a psychological consult and that he was already seeing a psychologist.

She says she doesn’t remember an injury on Zimmerman’s chin.

George Zimmerman Trial Day 15: Live Updates | News 13

Ever taken martial arts? Been in a fight? Did you know that Mike Tyson, who happened to be the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion of the entire fucking world, once ran away from a street fight? There is a significant difference between sparring in a dojo where you know what the other guy is going to do and being in a real fight.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

And look, this is a BIG guy studying martial arts and he was getting torn up by a super skinny 17 year old?

Uhh...Zimmerman doesn't look big or tall, to me. I thought I would check it out though, and came upon this. Also Trevor Martin, stood 6'3" tall.....


George Zimmerman has gained 110 pounds since the shooting, when he described himself as 5 feet, 8 inches tall and 194 pounds.


Read more: George Zimmerman gains more than 100 pounds since fatally shooting Trayvon Martin* - NY Daily News

George Zimmerman weighs 170#; Trayvon Martin 160# - Charleston Charleston Conservative

The police put Martin at 6' and 160 lbs and Zimmerman at 5'9" and 170.

And I haven't seen a single picture of Martin where he didn't look super skinny. The numbers came from the police. And they had Trayvon's body in the back room for three days. I'm sure they measured it at least once just to see what was "bagged". Imagine a white guy sitting in the back with a cell phone and student ID. Just kidding. You can't. It would never happen.

At 6' and 170# Martin would be in the lower end of the ideal weight on the government approved BMI index, the same charts list Zimmerman as overweight. Maybe you should stop looking at pictures of Martin when he was 10.

 

[Avatar4321]

To answer your question. Yes, depending on the circumstances and style you know.

For example, if you are jumped from behind and knocked to the ground you may not know how to defend yourself from that position.

The style I studied as a teen rarely focused on grappling techniques from the ground, focusing on defense in a standing position.

all is really moot in the Zimmerman case though. He did defend himself. He just used a gun. (BTW using weapons is a typical lesson in martial arts)

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You need to spend two years learning something before you figure out if you learned anything? Not me.

If you are naive enough to believe everyone who takes martial arts classes will handily win every fight they get in I'd put no limit to what things in life you can't figure out.

So I'll ask a third time, how long was he taking his martial arts classes?

Who said that? Oh, wait, no one did. You just pulled it out of your ass.

Since he was taking three a week, then he had to take at least three and "a week" infers more than one week, that's six classes minimum. Duh! See what I mean about Right wingers and learning? No wonder their economic policies are such disasters.

How right wingers can go to "SIX" classes and not learn anything is no surprise. And they defend "stupid". Wow, what a shock!

When I took Aikido it took 6 classes before the sensi would let me fall down.

 

[Avatar4321]

You have no idea what this so called training involved do you?

As Someone who has studied in various martial arts (boxing, taekwondo, Bando, Krav Maga) I can say that merely taking some lessons and doing drills does not guarantee one can fight.

Unless you spar and compete (formally or informally) on a regular basis you might as well be taking Zumba.

I can add my testimony to that. I've studied several forms of martial arts too. And quite honestly, I have no clue how I would hold up in a fight. I wasn't too bad at sparing, but sparing and a real fight are not the same thing.

The fact is I hope i never have to find out how I would hold up in an actual situation where my life is at stake. However, I've studied and still train alittle in the hopes that if that day actually arrives, I will know how to respond.

 

[Avatar4321]

When I took Aikido it took 6 classes before the sensi would let me fall down.

rdean's problem is that he has never studied the martial arts. He has no clue what is taught there. So he uses his imagination of what happens to reach conclusions and his hubris being what it is, he cannot comprehend how he can be wrong.

 

[Avatar4321]

BTW you also have to factor in whether he was actually applying himself. Some people learn quickly and apply themselves. Some just go through the motions. We dont have that info.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

To answer your question. Yes, depending on the circumstances and style you know.

For example, if you are jumped from behind and knocked to the ground you may not know how to defend yourself from that position.

The style I studied as a teen rarely focused on grappling techniques from the ground, focusing on defense in a standing position.

all is really moot in the Zimmerman case though. He did defend himself. He just used a gun. (BTW using weapons is a typical lesson in martial arts)

I learned two thing in martial arts, to hurt the other guy before he hurts you, and there is no such thing as a fair fight.

 

[Smilebong]

To answer your question. Yes, depending on the circumstances and style you know.

For example, if you are jumped from behind and knocked to the ground you may not know how to defend yourself from that position.

The style I studied as a teen rarely focused on grappling techniques from the ground, focusing on defense in a standing position.

all is really moot in the Zimmerman case though. He did defend himself. He just used a gun. (BTW using weapons is a typical lesson in martial arts)

I learned two thing in martial arts, to hurt the other guy before he hurts you, and there is no such thing as a fair fight.

2 good rules. My Dad pulled me out of a fight at age 13 and told me, avoid fighting, but if you cannot avoid it, always, always hit him first and hit him hard.

 

[bripat9643]

To answer your question. Yes, depending on the circumstances and style you know.

For example, if you are jumped from behind and knocked to the ground you may not know how to defend yourself from that position.

The style I studied as a teen rarely focused on grappling techniques from the ground, focusing on defense in a standing position.

all is really moot in the Zimmerman case though. He did defend himself. He just used a gun. (BTW using weapons is a typical lesson in martial arts)

I learned two thing in martial arts, to hurt the other guy before he hurts you, and there is no such thing as a fair fight.

2 good rules. My Dad pulled me out of a fight at age 13 and told me, avoid fighting, but if you cannot avoid it, always, always hit him first and hit him hard.

My younger brother told me that in his fighting days the first thing he always did is kick his opponent in the knee. When your knee is hyper extended you are going to be in a world of hurt, and you aren't mobile any longer. After that you're dead meat.